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Boston manhunt 'skipped over the area where bombing suspect was found' (IN THE ZONE)
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Posted on 05/01/2013 6:14:48 AM PDT by RummyChick

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for those that kept telling the boat was outside the zone

NO IT WASN"T.

They did a massive ARMED warrantless search of hundreds of homes...and when they were done..VIOLA...they found the guy in the boat.

SUSPICIOUS

US Media is reporting this but none that are ...are allowed on this site

1 posted on 05/01/2013 6:14:48 AM PDT by RummyChick
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2 posted on 05/01/2013 6:15:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: RummyChick

“David Procopio, a spokesman for the Massachusetts State Police, told Bloomberg that the issue is under investigation.”

Btw, isn’t this the guy who said Bomber 2 wasn’t armed in the boat?


3 posted on 05/01/2013 6:19:09 AM PDT by RummyChick
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I admit I've been back and forth on this, and THIS report puts me more solidly in the "something's up" category.

I've stayed away from the 9/11 theories .. just because ... but if THIS is true, I have serious doubts about the reported elements of this attack on America.

4 posted on 05/01/2013 6:20:35 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: RummyChick

THEY didn’t find him in the boat, the owner did.......now he needs a new boat.......


5 posted on 05/01/2013 6:21:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

so was the assassin supposed to get away ???


6 posted on 05/01/2013 6:21:51 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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NEED TO KNOW Did Boston Mayor Menino, and Gov Deval Patrick have something to do with the search orders?

(a) Early reports indicate Menino used strongarm tactics---and govt authority---to circumvent laws to aid and abet builders of the the Boston mosque the bombers attended.

(b) Massachusetts Gov Deval Patrick refused to divulge info WRT public assistance to the Tsarnaev's (on Obomba's orders?).

But state welfare officials were forced to b/c the info is available to lawmakers. State Rep David Linsky called on the Mass Dept of Transitional Assistance to provide the info..... issuing an ultimatum, giving them 24 hours to provide the info.

The Boston Herald published the state's response: 'My office is working to fully comply with your request,' DTA interim commissioner Stacey Monahan wrote, saying they were only providing a summary 'given the great interest in this matter.'

Chechen immigrants Tsarnaev parents were eligible as legal, non-citizen residents who claimed "asylum" status and met the eligibility criteria for DTA, DTA interim commissioner Stacey Monahan said in a letter to David Linsky, Chairman of the Mass House Post Audit and Oversight Committee.

On Thursday, multiple state agencies, at the prompting of Gov Patrick, refused to comment on the brothers' benefits.

<><> WRT Tamerlan receiving UI benefits, Labor dept spokesman Kevin Franck refused to comment....

<><> Univ of Mass-- Dartmouth spokesman Robert Connolly refused to comment on the financial aid app of 19 -year-old soph Dzhokhar. 'It is our position - and I believe the accepted position in higher education - that student records including academic records and financial records (including financial aid) cannot under federal law be released without a student’s consent.'

<><> The FCC would not discuss whether the suspected bombers had govt-paid cellphones.

<><> Cambridge housing officials would not comment on if the brothers had Section 8 rental subsidy offered by the HUD to low income households.

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UPDATE Benefits for entire family of bombing suspects likely exceeded $100k
WCRB ^ | 4/29/2013 | By Janet Wu / FR Posted by Alistair Stratford IV

BOSTON — State lawmakers have launched an investigation into whether the suspects in the Boston bombings improperly received public benefits. The House Committee on Post Audit and Oversight is reviewing hundreds of documents collected from state agencies that may have provided benefits to the suspects or their families since 2002.

Sources who have seen the 500 pages of documents sent to the House Committee on Post Audit and Oversight told News Center 5 that the entire Tsarnaev family, including (1) the two bombing suspects' parents, (2) the two suspects themselves, (3) their sisters, (4) the widow of the suspect killed, and, (5) their child -- received "every conceivable public benefit available out there."

(Excerpt) Read more at wcvb.com ...

SOURCE http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/hearing-set-to-look-at-tsarnaev-family-welfare-benefits/-/11971628/19933058/-/9yagjz/-/index.html#ixzz2RtfE87js

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$100K is the tip of the iceberg----the America-hating Tsarnaev's collected bigtime----rode the US gravy train using several identites. The bomber brothers' lavish style could not have been financed merely w/ welfare checks, food stamps, housing subsidies, etc etc etc.

A look at dead bomber Tamerlan's reading list on Amazon shows he researched several books WRT forging new identities (each identity pocketing US govt freebies).

TAMERLAN'S READING LIST--PUT THIS IN YOUR BROWSER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html? ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=1PNVMAW2D4CT1

7 posted on 05/01/2013 6:24:53 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So lets get back to the picture that was reported as him getting IN the boat taken from a surveillance camera.

The tarp looks torn.

So does that mean he was getting OUT of the boat as has also been reported.

But if you had just been shot in the throat by suicide (except he had no gun) been bleeding for hours and hours and hours after a gunfight, had been on the run..would you really look like that???

I still believe that armed manhunt was a ruse for something else.

Perhaps a chance to do warrantless searches.


8 posted on 05/01/2013 6:25:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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The guy was bleeding, they knew he had been on foot. As an uneducated (in criminal law enforcement techniques) observer, but just wonder why bloodhounds / search dogs were not used. Seems like they knew who the guy was, had ample opportunity to retrieve and use his belongings to provide a scent, yet they relied on house to house searches?
Also, they brought in the helicopter with FLIR after they knew he was in the boat. Monday morning quarterbacking, but honestly, why wasn’t that also brought in early - sheds, boats, etc... would seem a natural place for a 19 year old to hide. This was a novice criminal - evil, yes, but his brother was the trained one and by the time of the search they should have figured this out.


9 posted on 05/01/2013 6:26:59 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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Once again for the viewing pleasure

People FORCED at GUNPOINT out of their homes...

while the perp is in an area NOT SEARCHED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LrbsUVSVl8


10 posted on 05/01/2013 6:27:43 AM PDT by RummyChick
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The bomber brothers' lavish style could not have been financed merely w/ welfare checks, food stamps, housing subsidies, etc etc etc.

A look at dead bomber Tamerlan's reading list on Amazon shows he researched several books WRT forging new identities (each identity pocketing US govt freebies).

TAMERLAN'S READING LIST--PUT THIS IN YOUR BROWSER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html? ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=1PNVMAW2D4CT1

Faked/forged identities is a common practice among "impoverished" latinos on US soil....."the just here for a better life types". The "impoverished" invaders pay $$$ thousands for fake identities. The latino Washington state rapist had some 30 identities. Another latino scammed UI for $3/4 million using fake identities.

NJ BERGEN RECORD CIRCA 2004---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity (many latinos establish multiple identities in order to ride the US gravy train).

The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said NJ state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot.

The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

11 posted on 05/01/2013 6:27:52 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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Now will each of these 11 residents get a little extra attention from the authorities to assure that their state sponsored indoctrination is not weakening?


12 posted on 05/01/2013 6:28:52 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: LibertyOh

One poster who has some experience with police dogs on this site said that having 9000 people tramping around could cause the dog to lose the scent.

Another said dogs tracked him to a basement and then lost the scent. Don’t know if that is true.


13 posted on 05/01/2013 6:29:08 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick; OwenKellogg; bunster; thouworm; maggief; onyx; AllAmericanGirl44; ConservativeMan55; ...

Boston Bombing Ping!!


14 posted on 05/01/2013 6:29:44 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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so was the assassin supposed to get away ???

How does aiming a weapon at a citizen in a window help the "assassin" (i.e. unarmed 19 year old) get away?

15 posted on 05/01/2013 6:30:38 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was discovered after a day-long manhunt by a homeowner...

The homeowner discovered him within minutes of the lockdown being lifted.

16 posted on 05/01/2013 6:31:00 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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They searched this particular home earlier, (67 Franklin Street) and later on the owner spotted bloody clothes, and called 911, right?

That’s what I have read and what I heard reported.


17 posted on 05/01/2013 6:32:46 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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18 posted on 05/01/2013 6:34:04 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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I was surprised because, as a rule, cops are pretty good at sniffing out hiding places. A young woman I work with wondered why he didn’t make his way to a Charles River marina and steal a boat. (Or try to swim across the Charles.) I like to think that if I was a cop, the very first place I would have checked would have been inside of any vehicle or boat.


19 posted on 05/01/2013 6:36:23 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Liz
A side issue but if you ever fly into Boston's Logan Airport, greeting are played from the Mayor of Boston and Governor of Massachusetts. The brief messages are evidence that one is inarticulate and the other is a pansy.
20 posted on 05/01/2013 6:38:54 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: onyx

can you pinpoint where your read this home was searched because everyone kept telling me it was out of the zone and wasn’t searched.

It seems I recall something about it being searched but the storyline was that he was in the basement and then moved to the boat after the search. Maybe it was you promulgating that theory.

When I did a search all I could find was that the home was outside the search zone...until the bombshell...no it wasn’t

It seems that comment by the talking head of the Police Department indicates what you are saying is not true.


21 posted on 05/01/2013 6:41:04 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Is there a video of that guy?

There once wasa link on FR but it went dead before I could watch...


22 posted on 05/01/2013 6:41:20 AM PDT by varyouga
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I just snagged the photo because I wanted to make sure I had a copy before it disappeared. I never saw a video.


23 posted on 05/01/2013 6:42:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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These guys would do a better job.

 photo KeystoneKops_zpsbafd30ae.jpg

24 posted on 05/01/2013 6:45:56 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Someone taking pictures from their window has a rifle pointed at them? Insane!


25 posted on 05/01/2013 6:46:14 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

check out this video.

Can you imagine the nightmares kids might have because of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC58A4EW6tg


26 posted on 05/01/2013 6:46:54 AM PDT by RummyChick
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I don’t think it is because they are taking pictures.

It appears they did this with many houses. Check out the video I just posted.


27 posted on 05/01/2013 6:49:32 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Photo & Video Sharing by SmugMug
28 posted on 05/01/2013 6:52:58 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: knarf

The official statements and media reporting of the Benghazi attacks were filled with misinformation, distortion, denials, and the promise of a full investigation.

The official statements and media reporting of the Sandy Hook school attack were filled with misinformation, distortion, denials, and the promise of a full investigation.

The official statements and media reporting of the Boston Marathon attack were filled with misinformation, distortion, denials, and the promise of a full investigation.

How many dots does one have to connect before one sees a pattern developing?

Nearly moments after the Boston Marathon bomb explosions, the local and national news reporters made reference to information coming 'from Washington' for various reports and updates.

From Washington? All of the sudden, the local officials were deferring to Washington for releasing information.

Additionally, in one of the late evening pressers, one of the speakers made reference to them 'searching throughout the world, to the ends of the earth' to apprehend those involved. I thought that rather strange since the common spiel all day was 'no sign of terrorism' and 'the lone bomber' and probably a right-wing skinhead rather than a radicalized muslim. I suspect that that speaker at the presser already knew international terrorist ties were involved.


29 posted on 05/01/2013 6:53:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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What is shocking to me is that this story generated from Bloomberg.


30 posted on 05/01/2013 6:54:01 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I never heard or read about him being in the basement. The home had been searched earlier in the day, according to the owner.

The stories and news reports I heard and read, all reported that the owner went outside to smoke a cig, noticed his garage door ajar, spotted bloody clothing, called 911, and the search led to the discovery of the suspect in the boat.

The Boston Globe had the most accurate coverage.


31 posted on 05/01/2013 6:54:10 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: RummyChick

Even some Freepers - who I would Zot if it was within my power - fully approve of the ultimately useless warrantless armed invasion of people’s homes by a militarized police force. Stunning, isn’t it?


32 posted on 05/01/2013 6:55:06 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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They skipped searching the street where the terrorist was found.

Floated the lie that he was armed and had attempted suicide to avoid early scrutiny.

But don’t worry...their budgets will be universally increased, so that they may be yet more tyrannical in the future.

See now local/state police will face scrutiny...this stuff all ends in these proud men being disarmed and hobbled in their authority in favor of a freedom crushing federal police force. Congratulation! Just like Mexico, most all of Europe....


33 posted on 05/01/2013 6:56:53 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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Your version doesn’t click with the official story - home outside of search zone.

I can’t find ANYTHING where the owner says his home was already searched

Here is an interview with the owner

http://watertown.patch.com/articles/interview-with-boat-owner?national=patch&ncid=edlinkuspatc00000006


34 posted on 05/01/2013 7:00:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Boston Globe

NOTHING about home being searched

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/19/watertown-family-finds-alleged-marathon-bomber-boat/y3te9bJyaatLpd4yvLGRGJ/story.html


35 posted on 05/01/2013 7:03:21 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: TomGuy

Thanx Tom, I needed that.


36 posted on 05/01/2013 7:06:14 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: LibertyOh

Waiting it out....guy still lives yet somehow ends up unable to talk.


37 posted on 05/01/2013 7:07:34 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: onyx

Some slight variations from numerous threads and reports:

Owner noticed the storage shed door [not garage door] opened and noticed the boat tarp ripped.

Owner also saw blood smears on shed door and/or the boat.

Owner went to check out the tarp rip, lifted the tarp and saw a body (could not tell whether it was alive or dead).

Owner went back into house where he or his wife called 911.
38 posted on 05/01/2013 7:07:59 AM PDT by TomGuy
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David Procopio, a spokesman for the Massachusetts State Police, told Bloomberg that the issue is under investigation.

News of the potential oversight comes as a shock to many, especially considering Tsarnaev had abandoned a getaway car - which he had used to flee from a firefight with police - just 400 yards from where he was later found.

Somebody f’up. Stuff happens. No conspiracy.

39 posted on 05/01/2013 7:08:06 AM PDT by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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According to reports, the shed and the boat at this location had been searched earlier, but a woman noticed a door to it had been opened, saw blood and called police. She may have just ended the search for suspect #2 by her actions.
40 posted on 05/01/2013 7:09:09 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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Right, several reports.

The rush to be first.


41 posted on 05/01/2013 7:10:10 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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Can you actually give me a legitimate source for that info.

Like an interview with the boat owner that I can actually hear or some more reputable site.

THE ONLY thing you have is some blog claiming “reports”


42 posted on 05/01/2013 7:10:53 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

The only explanation I can think of is that the police figured he ran to a ‘safe’ house where he was being sheltered by accomplices. The area they were searching had a lot of multi-family houses, the kind a group of young male foreigners would rent.

It’s interesting that Watertown has a huge population of Armenians. NO WAY would they ever shelter a Muslim.


43 posted on 05/01/2013 7:11:07 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Fitzy_888
First they told us that he shot himself in the throat. He couldn't talk or write because he hit his spinal cord and was paralized. (I remember reading this somewhere). When he was found able to communicate, voila, he was Mirandized.
44 posted on 05/01/2013 7:11:22 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: McGruff

“Somebody f’up. Stuff happens. No conspiracy.”

It’s possible.

But then we have the info coming out from other countries..I think three so far...that the US had been warned about Dead Bomber.


45 posted on 05/01/2013 7:12:08 AM PDT by RummyChick
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So he was found in a boat with no power, no heat or air, no food, and awash in his own waste. Was that a hideout or a Carnival cruise ship?


46 posted on 05/01/2013 7:13:42 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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Look, I told you what I remembered, and now I have provided you with a link.

There were several reports during the hunt for Suspect #2, many of which were conflicting.

You seem to want to argue with me. I’m not interested in that.


47 posted on 05/01/2013 7:13:44 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

So we can pretty well sum up that it is VERY LIKELY that the home was not searched because there aren’t any reports about it except from some blog.


48 posted on 05/01/2013 7:14:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: 0.E.O

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

that was a great one!


49 posted on 05/01/2013 7:15:20 AM PDT by RummyChick
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...and when they were done..VIOLA...they found the guy in the boat.


50 posted on 05/01/2013 7:15:28 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (HRC:"Sometimes she looks like a primary schoolgirl and sometimes a pensioner going shopping,"-NKorea)
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