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Marines shift focus to get women to front line
wmbfnews.com ^ | April 24, 2013 | David Klugh

Posted on 05/01/2013 1:52:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

PARRIS ISLAND, SC (WMBF) - The next war fought by American troops will be fought by men and women on the front line.

Today, women are allowed - even encouraged - to serve wherever they're needed. And that has every branch of the military racing to develop a plan to make sure they are not only willing to fight, but ready for the job physically and emotionally.

At Parris Island the new role of women in the Marine Corps is changing tradition and attitudes about training at one of the nation's premier boot camps.

It has never has been training for the weak hearted or the weak spirit. As the only boot camp for women enlisting the Marine Corps, Parris Island has a well earned reputation.

No sooner did the Pentagon open the door for women serving in combat rolls then something else changed here on Parris Island that had been in the works for months. And that is the way they train female recruits.

Yes, shifting the role means shifting the training. And you can bet, the newest female recruits here are already feeling that victory where it hurts. For starters, there are more sit-ups, push-ups and pull-ups.

It's about time, says retired Army Lt. Colonel Wanda Robinson. She's a South Carolina teacher now, here at Parris Island for a workshop on how to talk honestly to her students, male and female, about the joining the military.

"I've always wanted to do some type of combat, you know I'm not saying I'm Rambo or Rambett. But I always wanted to do something like that. So, I'm applauding it for the females that are in now. "

One of those females also represents a historic first for Parris Island. The commanding general here is yet another sign of an evolving Marine Corps. And she will tell you her goal is to produce combat ready men and women.

"From my perspective sitting here at Parris island," says Brigadier General Lori Reynolds. "What we're gonna do here is not gonna change. We're gonna make sure that we turn out the best basically trained Marine that we can for whatever the Corps has in store for them next."

Staff Sgt. Latoya Moffitt is a senior drill instructor who has never seen a difference in dedication between the sexes. She in one who has always been ready for the front line.

It's just sincere passion that we have here sir. You want to make a difference. You want to influence that next generation of Marines that are going to be taking your place. And when you come here you give 110 percent because that's what you want to see once you get back to the fleet."

She is the female recruit's first impression here. It was the same for this group of 80 teachers invited to spend 4-days on Parris Island. They'll return to their schools from Myrtle Beach to Memphis a target for students wanting to know if the Marines Corps is right for them.

"Most of the female educators in this workshop will tell you their biggest influence will be on female students at their respective schools. So, with the Marine Corps made up of just 6-percent females, how likely are they to direct their students here to Parris Island.

Most of these teachers say the student will determine that.

You'd be amazed at how many girls are interested in military," says Kim Saylors, an Abbyville high school English teacher. "You know a lot of times I'll say well what are your goals, what do you want to do when you graduate? Do you even know? And a lot of times they'll say, military."

McBee High School career specialist, Terri Rhoad says she likes what she's seeing here at Parris Island. "I was just in awe of how many females were pursuing it now. So it's great that they're allowing them that opportunity to do as much as the males and not saying 'no' you can't do this."

The battalions of female recruits here at Parris Island today are here because of the opportunity to serve at every level, not in spite of it.

The Pentagon mandate authorizing women to serve in combat roles only offers women that option. The expectation for all branches of the military is that most women will choose other careers in the military that will not require them to fight on the front lines.


TOPICS: US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: marines; usmc; usmilitary; womenincombat
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1 posted on 05/01/2013 1:52:06 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Jesus wept.
2 posted on 05/01/2013 1:54:52 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Tailgunner Joe
RATS continue turning the Military into a social experiment.
3 posted on 05/01/2013 1:57:22 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If women are equal to men on the front lines now just use women only. That seems fair, right?

Lets go fight the Russians or Chinese. And let them use all men while we use all women. Since it makes no difference ya know....


4 posted on 05/01/2013 1:58:39 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
How many girls are gonna get pregnant just to get out of combat?

Oh, wait, Nobama will just institute compulsory abortions.

5 posted on 05/01/2013 1:58:55 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Technology will help to some extent. E.g. battlefield robots, and exoskeletons may soon enable female soldiers (or Marines) to pack as much gear as their male counterparts.


6 posted on 05/01/2013 2:03:47 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Slyfox

Considering they already do that just to avoid rear echelon deployments, probably quite a few. Commanders will attempt to implement policies to prevent them losing soldiers downrange from pregnancies, and will be attacked by the media.


7 posted on 05/01/2013 2:06:31 PM PDT by PVT4evr ((Operation Iraqi Freedom 2007-2008, 2009-2010 3rd Infantry, 2010 2nd Infantry))
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To: isthisnickcool

The Russians experimented with using women in front-line positions, and quickly learned that it is a VERY VERY BAD IDEA.


8 posted on 05/01/2013 2:07:23 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Russian hard line troops against girls and panzies.

Not going to be a good fight for US.


9 posted on 05/01/2013 2:08:00 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Yep. Front line combat is going to be so wonderful for women.
10 posted on 05/01/2013 2:08:32 PM PDT by Clock King
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The next war fought by American troops will be fought by men and women on the front line.

Which is why we will lose.
11 posted on 05/01/2013 2:09:53 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Clock King

As a Vietnam veteran with 2 PH..I can tell you this...there is not a woman on earth that would fit in on the front lines in combat. My wife was also a Marine and is confident, tough when needed, and she will tell you the exact same thing. I don’t give a rats a** what the Liberal box checkers say. BTW we both went through Parris Island.


12 posted on 05/01/2013 2:11:45 PM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
exoskeletons may soon enable female soldiers (or Marines) to pack as much gear as their male counterparts.

Great, Million dollar wheel chairs welded to forklifts with little red wagons behind them for the gear instead of soldiers, great idea till the batteries run down.

I think I will bet on the Marines who will get the job done rain or shine, with or without support on Grit and Honor.

13 posted on 05/01/2013 2:12:31 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

And Godless to boot. The end of the United States.


14 posted on 05/01/2013 2:15:45 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: PVT4evr
Putting women in combat is just against human nature.

The women pushing for it are commie-lesbos who are devoid of common sense.

They also don't care how a policy they have endorsed will effect future women who will actually have to go and fight on the front line.

Unlike themselves who will spend the war in their air-conditioned offices stateside.

15 posted on 05/01/2013 2:16:16 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
For starters, there are more sit-ups, push-ups and pull-ups.

Who is taking odds, cause the bet is your familys lives.

16 posted on 05/01/2013 2:18:37 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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"Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Gen. Dempsey said that if "a particular standard is so high that a woman couldn't make it, the burden is now on the service to come back and explain...why is it that high? Does it really have to be that high?"

Standards at PI have already been lowered. Expect them to be further lower so that women can succeed.

17 posted on 05/01/2013 2:18:39 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: utahagen
Please note, I'm not a Marine. So, I'm not sure how much of an opinion I'm allowed here...

My $0.02 is that it's not a question of dedication, it's a question of ability. Doesn't particularly matter how much you want to do something...if you can't do it, then that's that.

For the moment, set aside social issues, sexism, chivalry, medical and hygiene issues, and anything else that I'm not sharp enough to think of at this moment. Any one of these issues would be enough to derail the entire experiment....but let's set them aside for now.

I'm sure that there are exceptions. However, in general, average women are not just slightly weaker, or less physically able than average men. They're catastrophically weaker, with less physical ability, size, muscle mass, and endurance.

Feminists can argue the issue all day. But, bluntly, you can't teach someone to be 5'10" tall and 180 pounds.

AFAIC, that's pretty much the end of the argument.

18 posted on 05/01/2013 2:19:37 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Slyfox; USFRIENDINVICTORIA; Tailgunner Joe; Marine_Uncle; Al

First, let me say I am the mother of a Special Forces soldier now in Afghanistan. He also was in the 82nd earlier. Please note this from the article. “Yes, shifting the role means shifting the training. And you can bet, the newest female recruits here are already feeling that victory where it hurts. For starters, there are more sit-ups, push-ups and pull-ups.”

It does not sound as if they are diluting the training at this time. Also, any woman who chooses to do this is not going to get pregnant to get out of combat. We women don’t invest major efforts in something just to wimp out. Remember, especially in earlier years, every time a woman had a baby, she risked death and a lot of pain.


19 posted on 05/01/2013 2:22:01 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: jpsb

Dempsey is evil.


20 posted on 05/01/2013 2:23:36 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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