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Keep Stone Mountain carving a Confederate Memorial
Chattanoogan ^ | May 1, 2013 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 05/01/2013 4:10:00 PM PDT by BigReb555

“Like previous campaigns criticizing other Confederate Memorials, he sees the petition to remove the carving of Jefferson, Lee and Jackson as an attack on the truth.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: american; confederate; dixie; memorials
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A young man asked me why do they want to change the carving at Stone Mountain Park?

The question should also be why do some people continue to try erasing history? There is a petition drive to change the beautiful historic carving at Stone Mountain Memorial Park near Atlanta, Georgia? See link below of news story from 11 Alive of Atlanta, Georgia including their interview with me. A special thank you to Mr. Dan Coleman who participated in the debate that followed. http://www.11alive.com/news/article/290674/3/Petition-wants-Stone-Mt-Confederate-carving-removed

Read what I said including, “Like previous campaigns criticizing other Confederate Memorials, he sees the petition to remove the carving of Jefferson, Lee and Jackson as an attack on the truth.”

A on line poll currently shows 95 percent of the people want to keep the Stone Mountain Carving of our heroes Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson as it is.

Let me caution you with this poll that we also won most of the polls for the 1956 Georgia “Soldier’s Memorial flag” our official State flag of Georgia conceived by Judge John Sammons Bells that was unceremoniously taken down in 2001. They did not listen to the people of Georgia back then.

Mississippian’s however were allowed to vote on their 1890s State flag, that also includes the Confederate Battle flag in the design, and they chose to keep it. Georgian’s were allowed to vote on a State flag but their 1956 flag with the Confederate flag it its design, was excluded in the vote. Democracy was at work in Mississippi but not Georgia.

Stone Mountain has been filmed many times including in the 1954 movie “A Man called Peter” starring Richard Todd as Reverend Peter Marshall and Jean Peters as his wife.

Take the time to learn about the South’s President Jefferson Davis, Gen. Robert E. Lee and Gen. Stonewall Jackson who died 150 years ago on May 10, 1863 and share with your family.

Jefferson and wife Varina Davis adopted a Black child, Jim Limber Davis, in February 1864 and…

Booker T. Washington, America’s great Black-American Educator wrote in 1910, 'The first white people in America, certainly the first in the South to exhibit their interest in the reaching of the Negro and saving his soul through the medium of the Sunday-school were Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson."

Let’s not erase history!

Read more about Confederate History and Heritage Month at: https://www.facebook.com/ConfederateHeritageMonth

1 posted on 05/01/2013 4:10:00 PM PDT by BigReb555
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To: BigReb555

The chances of Barack Obama not being a Muslim are greater than any change being made to Stone Mountain. :-)


2 posted on 05/01/2013 4:16:19 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BigReb555

Leave it the hell alone .Jeeezzze, I’m from Pennsylvania and Stone Mountain had one of the best laser light shows I’ve ever seen.


3 posted on 05/01/2013 4:16:22 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: BigReb555

there is ZERO % chance of them destroying stone mountain.


4 posted on 05/01/2013 4:16:29 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: BigReb555
The largest high relief sculpture in the world, the Confederate Memorial Carving, depicts three Confederate heroes of the Civil War, President Jefferson Davis and Generals Robert E. Lee and Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson.

The entire carved surface measures three-acres, larger than a football field and Mount Rushmore.

The carving of the three men towers 400 feet above the ground, measures 90 by 190 feet, and is recessed 42 feet into the mountain.

The deepest point of the carving is at Lee's elbow, which is 12 feet to the mountain's surface.




5 posted on 05/01/2013 4:17:27 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
And I thought there was a zero percent chance of guns being confiscated in California.

I hope we are not both wrong.

6 posted on 05/01/2013 4:20:16 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: BigReb555

I’m up north and I say leave it alone. It’s history.


7 posted on 05/01/2013 4:20:44 PM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: BigReb555

Where can I vote???? My family was in Georgia (both sides) since the late 1600’s to early 1700’s. I just LAST YEAR moved to south Florida, but my heritage is Georgia.

Stone Mountain is a matter of southern pride and anyone who watches the laser light show would see how NON-SLAVE it is.

Damn, I knew I shouldn’t have moved away...


8 posted on 05/01/2013 4:21:05 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: BigReb555

Amen.


9 posted on 05/01/2013 4:21:54 PM PDT by DallasSun
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To: Ben Mugged

http://www.civilwarnews.com/archive/articles/lee_statue_suit.htm

Lee still stands in rat infested Maryland.

There is hope.


10 posted on 05/01/2013 4:22:01 PM PDT by Salamander
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To: Repeal The 17th
The best Independece Day we ever had was sitting on that huge lawn all evening, picnicking and having a ball.

At the end of the show and festivities, everyone picked up every scrap of nearby litter as they left.

Within an hour, you'd never know a soul had been there...

11 posted on 05/01/2013 4:23:32 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Piffle....)
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To: autumnraine

I am a Yank through and through and when I visited Stone Mountain I thought it was a wonderful depiction of the heros of the South and their honoring their brave who fought.


12 posted on 05/01/2013 4:23:42 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: BigReb555

Don’t forget Traveler and Little Sorrel. I don’t know what Jeff Davis’ horse was named.


13 posted on 05/01/2013 4:26:59 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: BigReb555

People on FR know I am not a fan of the Confederacy. I’ve had a ton of fights on here about the war. But, this is just crazy. Stone Mountain is one of the coolest, most impressive things I’ve ever seen. It would be a crime to wreck that.


14 posted on 05/01/2013 4:27:14 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: BigReb555

At the rate this country is going, 100 years from now our citizens will be asking “Who are those guys?”


15 posted on 05/01/2013 4:29:30 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods, Glenn Doherty and Sean Smith? Forgot already?)
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To: BigReb555

I am a confederate raised in PA. I say leave it alone. Defacing Stone Mt. Is equivalent to Muslins defacing Hindu monuments in Afghanistan. Opps, forgot there is a Muslin in charge.


16 posted on 05/01/2013 4:30:13 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: BigReb555

There is a memorial to the Union Soldiers in Lynn Haven (a suburb of Panama City). this is one of the most conservative areas in the entire South and I have never seen anything done to it.


17 posted on 05/01/2013 4:32:31 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: BigReb555

I moved to Atlanta in 1964 and remember the work being done on the Confederate Memorial, finished and dedicated May 9, 1970.

The Laser Show and Fireworks there are phenomenal.

The Park is widely visited and honored by a
broad spectrum of people, races, foreign and domestic.

Those who offended by a thing speak volumes about
their own limitations and prejudices.


18 posted on 05/01/2013 4:32:54 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: BigReb555
Vote here
19 posted on 05/01/2013 4:33:04 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Renegade

We stumbled onto the laser show by accident. It was a great show.


20 posted on 05/01/2013 4:33:52 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: BigReb555

The Taliban destroyed all those Buddha reliefs in Afghanistan when they took over. Coincidence?


21 posted on 05/01/2013 4:35:10 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: autumnraine

I live in the West, but I am related to Jackson through my four times great-grand mother who was Jackson’s aunt. Keep the monument.


22 posted on 05/01/2013 4:36:28 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: yarddog

The caring depicts:
President Jefferson Davis,
General Robert E. Lee,
General Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson,
and their favorite horses:
“Blackjack”, “Traveler”, and “Little Sorrel”, respectively.


23 posted on 05/01/2013 4:37:18 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

“The Taliban destroyed all those Buddha reliefs in Afghanistan when they took over. Coincidence?”

Liberals. Censorship. Go hand in hand. It is liberals that burn books. They would burn all Bibles if they could.


24 posted on 05/01/2013 4:39:21 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: null and void

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25 posted on 05/01/2013 4:39:42 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

We have homegrown Taliban.


26 posted on 05/01/2013 4:40:38 PM PDT by AU72
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To: BigReb555; rockrr
Booker T. Washington, America’s great Black-American Educator wrote in 1910, 'The first white people in America, certainly the first in the South to exhibit their interest in the reaching of the Negro and saving his soul through the medium of the Sunday-school were Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson."

He did say it, but it wasn't actually true. It's like saying that what famous people or politicians do incidentally for their causes counts for more than what less famous people who have devoted their whole lives do.

27 posted on 05/01/2013 4:40:50 PM PDT by x
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To: Repeal The 17th

Does anyone else know that the mascot for the University of (Southern) California rides a horse named “Traveler”.


28 posted on 05/01/2013 4:41:23 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: BigReb555

I think the opposition to this monument is racist. It isn’t enough for some blacks to get equality, they want revenge.


29 posted on 05/01/2013 4:41:43 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: BigReb555

Sounds like the liberals want to do to Stone Mountain what the Taliban did to those Buddhist statures in Afghanistan.


30 posted on 05/01/2013 4:42:07 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Repeal The 17th
The carving depicts:
President Jefferson Davis,
General Robert E. Lee,
General Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson,
and their favorite horses:
“Blackjack”, “Traveler”, and “Little Sorrel”, respectively.

BLACKJACK?!?!? That's racis!

31 posted on 05/01/2013 4:42:54 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: BigReb555

Two of them are in my family tree. So, leave them alone. : ) I remember the first time I saw them was on my high school senior trip. It is awesome. Why do people stick their noses where they do not belong? Leave Stone Mountain alone.


32 posted on 05/01/2013 4:42:59 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: yarddog
I don’t know what Jeff Davis’ horse was named.

Somebody says it was "Laughing Lady."

But "Lil' Traitor" might have been better.

33 posted on 05/01/2013 4:43:24 PM PDT by x
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To: Repeal The 17th

Try again, link worked both ties I tried.


34 posted on 05/01/2013 4:43:53 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: BigReb555
Jefferson and wife Varina Davis adopted a Black child, Jim Limber Davis, in February 1864 and…

Well...no he didn't.

But regardless, remove the carvings how? They going to level Stone Mountain?

35 posted on 05/01/2013 4:45:30 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: null and void

Voted ‘no’.


36 posted on 05/01/2013 4:47:56 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: BigReb555

If you’re visiting the Atlanta area be sure to go to Stone Mountain.

http://www.stonemountainpark.com/


37 posted on 05/01/2013 4:48:27 PM PDT by Atlantan
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To: x
Which Jefferson Davis?

 photo 200px-Jefferson_C.jpg

or...

 photo JeffersonDavis.jpg

One was a Blue, the other Gray.

38 posted on 05/01/2013 4:53:58 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: BigReb555

already on it here at camp 1316 st Augustine, this is outrageous.


39 posted on 05/01/2013 4:54:03 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Repeal The 17th

history and a great art work and these loons want to get rid of it, frigging idiots, is nothing sacred anymore in this country?

Another thread asked if the north should leave and by hell the north east and many big cities should.


40 posted on 05/01/2013 4:55:18 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: CodeToad

That is correct! How long before the New Egyptians destroy the Pyramids and the Spinx. Then the Liberals will want to destroy most of the monuments in DC dedicated to the Racist Founding Fathers. It is sick.


41 posted on 05/01/2013 4:56:03 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: yarddog

Southerners have class.


42 posted on 05/01/2013 4:58:05 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: BigReb555

What about the engraved stone features in South Davota known as Mount Rushmore, and the one of some Native American Chief (just cannot remember the name right now). So lets see Vicksburg Battlefield Site in Vicksburg, MS does that have to go to. The USS Constitution has to go to because it is offensive to the British.

History has a significance for us yet today. Without the knowledge of our historical past we are bound to repeat the same stupidity of misguided individuals whom are ahistorical.

So lets get rid of Arlington National Cemetery because that was General Robert E. Lee estate. The feds seized his land and estate because of the war between the States. so because of hatred of what happened in the South years ago, we should destroy it.

No way. look what is happening around Gettysburg National Battlefield - the land is becoming commercialized, and in time the way it is going Gettysburg will just be a roadside Plaque.


43 posted on 05/01/2013 4:58:51 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: null and void

people just don’t want parks renamed, schools renamed, and mountains of art gone.

This is history and even Grant and Lincoln had more respect for the south than these bozo’s today.

A small group of Yankees moved to Jacksonville and wanted to change the schools name from a confederate General.
The school is a black school and these yanks thought that by living here and changing black schools they would win.
Nearly every black kid in that school wanted to keep the name of the school and the idiots who wanted to change the name could not understand why blacks do not care about the confederate flag or the Generals who served.

hell they get more confused when blacks have a confederate flag down here LOL


44 posted on 05/01/2013 4:59:34 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Inyo-Mono

my favourite General of all time and yes I wrote favourite as that is how they spelled words like that back then it was changed when yankee teachers came south and told the south to change spelling


45 posted on 05/01/2013 5:00:59 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: BigReb555

I had ancestors who fought on both sides of the war. Eventually, my Union ancestor soldier’s great-grandaughter married my Rebel ancestor soldier’s grandson. (They were my grandparents.)

I say leave it alone. I don’t care who is offended.

Some day, just you wait and see, the PC crowd will start talking about removing Washington from Mount Rushmore because he was slave owner.


46 posted on 05/01/2013 5:09:48 PM PDT by Texas56
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To: BigReb555

Leave the memorial alone I say, and I’m a yank.


47 posted on 05/01/2013 5:12:39 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: manc

I went to Jefferson Davis Jr High, would have gone to Nathan Bedford Forrest HS, had we not moved from Jax...


48 posted on 05/01/2013 5:15:41 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: BigReb555

All my people were Yankees and fought in Illinois Regiments. Leave the monument alone it depicts a vital portion of who we are. What is lost today is the concept of the noble enemy to many that is what the men on the monument were.


49 posted on 05/01/2013 5:23:36 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: BigReb555
I am no supporter of secessionist treason, but destroying the Stone Mountain monument is an attempt to erase history and smells like 1984 or the Taliban.

And it is not just an attempt to erase history but to destroy a work of art by Gutzon Borglum as well.

50 posted on 05/01/2013 5:26:06 PM PDT by wideawake
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