Skip to comments.What Should We Do about Guns?
Posted on 05/01/2013 8:17:49 PM PDT by marktwain
After the defeat of the Manchin-Toomey background-check bill, and the subsequent demonization of the Senate, Senators Manchin and Toomey are reportedly back at work on bipartisan legislation addressing gun control. John R. Lott, author of the new book At the Brink, who has been researching gun policy for decades, talks about the state of the debate with National Review Onlines Kathryn Jean Lopez.
Kathryn Jean Lopez: Gabby Giffords has accused the Senate of being in the grips of the gun lobby. Is there another explanation for the defeat of the Manchin-Toomey bill?
JOHN R. LOTT: Yes, there is. The politicians were simply representing the voters in their districts.
The accusation that politicians were attempting to please the gun lobby at the expense of their constituents, which is based on the oft-repeated assertion that 80 to 90 percent of the public say they favor background checks, is simply not credible. The survey questions on which this statistic is based proved nothing more than that respondents wished to disarm criminals. The questions posed were about a hypothetical, idealized system of background checks, not about the actual legislation facing Congress.
A better survey was recently released by the Pew Research Center. It asked: What word best describes how you feel about the Senate voting down new gun control legislation that included background checks on gun purchases? Many voters were upset that the bill didnt pass, but a very substantial group were relieved. Overall, 47 percent were disappointed and 39 percent were relieved. Not surprisingly, opinions varied drastically across political affiliation. Among Republicans, 51 percent were relieved and 34 percent were disappointed. Among independents, the split was 48 percent relieved and 41 disappointed. In sharp contrast, only 22 percent of Democrats were relieved, while 67 percent were disappointed.
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Shoot'em!! specially at those who want to take them away from us!!
To the headline: nothing
My lib sources told me that guns just get up and start shooting people.
Clean, maintain and keep ‘em in top shape.
“What Should We Do about Guns?”
Grabby is lucky if she can find the bathroom. This is from that gold digging, master of exploitation husband of hers.
What Should We Do about Guns? Enjoy them!
The end paragraph by Lott is extremely telling:
“To me, the debate has always been about safety. The vast majority of academic research supports my findings. The debate has been between those who argue that there is a benefit from those who own guns and those who claim that there is no significant effect on crime.”
Either way, not even considering Constitutional questions, there is no legitimate reason for increased regulation of guns.
It is the illegitimate reasons that we have to worry about, and which the left hysterically refuses to consider.
So Obama is lying to the American people......again. What a surprise.
Go back to the time of Victorian England. There were no controls on guns at all except for proofing them. and handguns required you to buy a stamp at the post office. These stamps were sold as routine. You just walk up to the clerk and say you want a X or Y stamp and he sells you one.
Other guns such as rifles, pistols, revolvers, machine guns and so on required nothing.
There crime rates were so low that one could usually count the total number of armed robberies in the entire nation on the fingers of one hand.
That big bad gun lobby.
There is only on thing we need to tell the libs:
The big bad gun lobby would have absolutely no power except for one thing and that is that they represent millions of ordinary folks like you and me. They speak for us.
That is not bad. It gives us a voice that will be heard.
“What should we do about guns?”
Load ‘em, center the front sight, and s-q-u-e-e-z-e the trigger.
Pass a law requiring all criminals to turn in their guns. Then give them to the good guys.
“What Should We Do About Guns?”
That’s a provocative question, raising many others:
`How do you solve a problem like Maria?’
`Does I have spinach in me teeth? (Popeye)
`What if our universe is just a drop of dew on a blade of grass ... ?’
What if the left was as `concerned’ about infanticide, the budget, personal responsibility, the economy, terrorism, etc., as they are about our guns?
Make sure they are sighted in.
“What Should We Do about Guns?”
If you want my guns, you should bring yours.
Strip and parkerize them.
You sir, have read Joyce Lee Malcolm!
Thank you for adding erudition to the discussion!
Leftists destroy, they do not build1
We can trade? This might beat a boating accident. "I traded them for some farm implements."
Ya took the words right outta my mouth!
They just don't want to believe that real people got their way. They want to believe that evil blood money was what caused the vote to go against their wishes.
Clean them, oil them and keep them dry.
Good idea... I have lots of farm implements too.
Reading the local news website for that area was like peering back through the mists of time. Clicking on "police and crime" in the sidebar brought up mostly a collection of stories about traffic accidents. No murders, no rapes, no muggings. Oh, and the cantonal Schützenfest is sponsored by a *brewery*.
yea I read it this am...good info and polling data- I’m personally concerned about some of the ceded ground (which my state and others are staking back out).
Guns are tools, for right or wrong; they are equalizers, defenders of the poor and bulwarks against abuse by government or criminals.
Cherish them, maintain them, and train the next generation in their proper use.
let people own them and use them.
respect the damn constitution. not just give it lip service as you tear it down.
2nd Amendment bump for later...
More than that, one thing I’ve noticed is that Letters of Marque issued by the United States may reference a private ship that is already armed with cannon, but doesn’t authorize it.
In other words, private American citizens used to be able to buy cannon without a background check.
The other side needs to stop shooting their mouths off.
Just today I had to hear “The gun nuts are making pink guns for first timers”.
So Friggin Stoopit and said to get a rise of me.
Didn’t bother to answer the challenge and illuminate him on just how long chicks have been buying pinkgunz
“In other words, private American citizens used to be able to buy cannon without a background check.”
We could buy cannon and the ammo for them without hindrance up until 1968. I remember, having lived during the time you could see the ads in the American Rifleman. I am talking about anti-tank guns and anti-aircraft guns and ammo. There were no crimes committed with them, but Johnson wanted them outlawed, and he did.
We still can buy muzzle loading cannon without hindrance, for the most part.
Start teaching gun safety in all public schools,it’s for the safety of the children,they are going to do it anyway.
What we should do about guns? How about making them less expensive and do the same for ammo!
The guy has the weirdest eyebrows since the latest Romulan Ambassador, but I love his work.
What to do about guns?
1. Repeal all laws restricting the sale and/or posession of firearms. Yes, even to convicted fellons. If they have served their sentence then they should be considered in good standing unless they commit another crime. The crooks don’t pay attention to the law any way.
2. Conduct mandatory arms training in the public schools grades K-12.
Take good care of your guns.
reload if possible.
better yet upgrade to better optics, better or more specifc calibers.
And ultimately upgrade technologically.
In some discussions many suggest we not scoff at the eventuality of a hostile alien invasion from OTHER than outside our borders.
Then we need SUPERIOR firepower, even EXCEEDING that of our military.
Like really good efficient flamethrowers for instance, everybody should have an assault flame thrower.
Hundreds of years in the future what weapon kills more aliens?
Yuuup, its the flame thrower.
Interesting, isn't it?? SUVs also cause their own accidents, NOT the people driving them!!
That's one of the reasons that we have been losing the culture wars. The left is not afraid to advance the goals it wants to achieve. Instead of calls to eliminate gun-free zones, we get geniuses at places like the Republican National Committee that want to attract moderates with ideas like Medicare Part D, No Child Left Behind and the recent mea culpa for why Romney blew it last November. It can be effective, but it's conventional thinking. That's what Schumer and Emanuel did when, "In 2006, Democrats built a congressional majority by embracing and convincing pro-gun, pro-life moderates to run in marginal states and districts."
To roll back the left we needs pols that can vigorously advance conservative ideas, not RINOs like Dole, McCain and Romney who want to nibble around the middle. That's why we have nationally almost 40 % Independents, and why so many white voters stayed home last November. "Rough calculations suggest that in 2012, 2 million to 5 million fewer whites voted compared with 2008, even though the pool of eligible white voters had increased."
I made a mistake of omission when I wrote about my state ping list project. I assumed everybody thinks like me. I failed to state that when I saw a particular state being mentioned in a story like Colorado in the first quoted paragraph of my comment, and I pinged george76 with my list for Colorado, I assumed george76 would in turn also ping his Colorado state ping list. That was my fault for not being explicit when I wrote that vanity.
Ping lists are not 100% efficient for any number of reasons. I only check pings to me periodically, less than I check my threads or mail. That's my fault too. Except for the largest states, most of my state ping lists are on the small size.
So if I already pinged you to a story that involves your state, e.g. Colorado, please don't be annoyed if george76 also pings you to it. You may have missed my earlier ping about that story, other pertinent links or comments may have been been made to the thread, etc.
Let me know if you want to be removed from my list of State ping lists.
Good idea! Let's bring back the poll tax!
Design cool, accurate new guns with simple, reliable, robust actions that would impress even John Moses Browning and give ‘em HUGE magazines to PO the gun grabbers. Design even better ammo to feed ‘em!
The Brits were undoubtedly bored to tears and decided to bring some excitement and beat-downs into their lives ~ so they restricted guns.
Of course you are correct, but the reason the Republicans are timid is in large part because the MSM actively attacks them, but not leftists.
One of the reasons that Ted Cruz can be so bold is because he ran and won on new media.
This is so true. The Left is willing to fight tooth and nail, Republicans want to play around of golf and discuss. Until we are willing to slap them down big time, we will lose over and over again.
“Rough calculations suggest that in 2012, 2 million to 5 million fewer whites voted compared with 2008, even though the pool of eligible white voters had increased.”
I think they voted. I don’t think they were counted. The left realized that with modern computer voting, it isn’t as easy to create votes out of thin air any more. But addition by subtraction gets the same result if you just eliminate votes that were actually cast.
if you do that does the first one become fee speech like if it is a penny for your thots like how much more is it gonna cost me for my two cents worth and if i just shut up then it costs me everthing right
For some time I had been wondering, "Do guns really cause crime? " I kept reading about "gun violence" and "gun deaths" and so many things blamed on guns.
Then, foreign-owned Smith & Wesson sold its soul* to Impeached President Bill Clinton & Co. and I decided to rid myself of anything I owned that was produced by that evil corporation. In my sock drawer, I found my once-trusty Model 19.
I was about to throw it in the recycle bin with my cans when a thought occurred to me- why not use it for testing purposes? I'll watch it and see if it causes any violence.
Well, a month passed and nothing, but of course, I had to sleep, use the bathroom, and go to work- it could have caused violence during any one of those times when I wasn't watching. So then I thought, what if I harness the Power of the Internet?
So, I pointed my camera at it so anyone connected to the Internet can now help me watch for signs of violence.
Of course, if anyone sees anything even remotely suspicious or out of the ordinary, please me at once.
Well said. I almost said “a penny for your thoughts” to a neighbor today.