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Michigan Dad Decides to Open Carry .45-Cal. Handgun at His Daughter’s School
The Blaze ^ | May. 1, 2013 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 05/02/2013 7:15:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek

Seeking to make a point about firearms, a Michigan man decided to open carry his .45-cal. handgun at his daughter’s school and later uploaded the footage to YouTube. The father says he made sure to first notify the school, the Michigan State Police, the county sheriff and other local law enforcement officials that he would be exercising his right to carry a gun.


The man behind the video told TheBlaze on Wednesday that he was not legally required to alert police or school officials that he would be carrying a gun. But rather than risk causing a panic, the man decided to let them know he would be legally carrying a firearm on school property.


“Decided to exercise my rights to carry a gun. In a school. As many of you know, federal law prohibits civilians (me) from carrying a gun near a school unless licensed by their state. As a CPL holder I am licensed,” the man wrote in the YouTube video description. “I want to exercise my rights, but not endanger myself or the rights of others while doing it.”


The man also urges others not to attempt to carry a firearm on school grounds without knowing all applicable laws, which vary in different states and counties. The video was uploaded to YouTube on April 25, 2013. It was recorded on the same day, the man who shot the video told TheBlaze.


A woman, who the video claims is a sheriff’s deputy, can be heard expressing concerns about kids seeing the firearm and becoming alarmed. “Obviously, you and I know I can’t stop you…I hope you realize what this is going to do to all those kids down there.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; opencarry; school; secondamendment
Full tile, 'Michigan Dad Decides to Open Carry .45-Cal. Handgun at His Daughter’s School to Make a Point: ‘Notice the Lack of Pandemonium From the Gun’

Kind of an odd gun law limbo but the guy is probably right about not doing this without making sure you're covered.

1 posted on 05/02/2013 7:15:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek
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To: cripplecreek

Wonder how many teachers and staff wet themselves....


2 posted on 05/02/2013 7:18:47 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
The guns in school issue really does need to be cleared up and it was just really bad luck that the bill that would have done it landed on Snyder's desk the very day of the Sandy Hook shooting.

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Michigan legislative action thread
3 posted on 05/02/2013 7:18:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

In Israel, kids expect to see their teachers armed, and are not panicked in the least. An argument here against it is, it *would* create panic. This man’s actions might be the first straw in a movement to re-acquaint kids with the idea that guns (not in police hands) can be good, or at least, neutral. So this act might in hindsight, be an important, if not historic, first step in a return to normalcy, from hoplophobia.


4 posted on 05/02/2013 7:20:24 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: marktwain

This may be of interest.


5 posted on 05/02/2013 7:21:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

A courtesy call is always a good idea if you’re planning to do something unusual that could be misinterpreted by liberal weenies.


6 posted on 05/02/2013 7:22:29 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: coloradan

We were still bringing guns to school as students into the mid 80s. They had to stay in our cars or in the principal’s office during the day but it wasn’t unusual to see them at the school.


7 posted on 05/02/2013 7:23:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Up here the kids from 8 years old are taught to shoot a .22 at tin cans on a log at 50 yards.

- no wonder these idiot teachers never seen a gun before-

They are out of the American mainstream tradition that has existed for over 400 years here on the east coast.

8 posted on 05/02/2013 7:24:43 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: cripplecreek
I hope you realize what this is going to do to all those kids down there.”

I don't know about the girls, but if boys are still boys they're thinking "cool, I wonder if he'll let me see it?"

9 posted on 05/02/2013 7:24:54 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

I remember a time when one of my wealthier friends got a 44. Magnum revolver for Christmas and was in the principal’s office as staff admired the gun.


10 posted on 05/02/2013 7:28:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

So, the school had a deputy (armed I expect) on hand for his visit. WOuld the sight of HER weapon alarm the students if she arrived without having called ahead?


11 posted on 05/02/2013 7:39:33 AM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: coloradan

Just a couple months ago another Michigan school was locked down because a man was seen in the halls wearing full camouflage. It turns out that he was an airman from the nearby Selfridge ANG base visiting former teachers.

He wasn’t even armed and the place erupted in panic.


12 posted on 05/02/2013 7:39:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m a teacher and would like to carry myself.

If people get used to seeing armed teachers, there would not be one more school shooting in America.


13 posted on 05/02/2013 7:41:58 AM PDT by struggle
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To: JimRed
I don't know about the girls, but if boys are still boys they're thinking "cool, I wonder if he'll let me see it?"

if my daughters thought anything, it would probably be "my daddy's gun is cooler."
14 posted on 05/02/2013 7:50:14 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: cripplecreek

So all that nose and drama coming from the Blaze about the Saudi “person of interest” was nothing but BS? Glenn Beck, Pat Gray and the Blaze should be very ashamed of themselves.


15 posted on 05/02/2013 8:08:26 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: absolootezer0

Honestly, I have never understood the hysteria regarding open carry on the part of the gun banners. Honest folks open carry, not crooks and thugs. If I see someone with a firearm on their hip, I do not fear them in the least. Unfortunately, there is still a bias against in places that should really know better—here in Arkansas and my home state of Texas are two examples.


16 posted on 05/02/2013 8:10:39 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: JimRed
A courtesy call is always a good idea if you’re planning to do something unusual that could be misinterpreted by liberal weenies.

What, exactly, isn't subject to liberal misinterpretation?

17 posted on 05/02/2013 8:14:41 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Jack Hammer
“Wonder how many teachers and staff wet themselves....”

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Most of them, Ignorant frightened pu$$ys. Even worse is the fact that they pass those attitudes along to their students.

18 posted on 05/02/2013 8:28:23 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: cripplecreek

The important part of this story was his wisely notifying those police agencies and the school about his intent.

This is hugely important, to establish good public relations *before* exercising your rights, for the single reason that what you are doing is unusual right now, and people get concerned about *anything* unusual.

It could be called “inoculating” yourself, by turning the unknown into the known.

It matters less what rationalization you use than that you use a rationalization, because people just do not handle the unknown well at all.

Because America has long been in a “minimized gun culture”, many people have lost their familial gun culture, and are perplexed by the sight of guns. It doesn’t help things that in TV and the movies, guns are props, and if you see them, somebody will likely use them.

It can be very easy to inoculate others against gun fear. By printing out a one page guide to state gun laws, you can offer one to the managers in a whole cluster of small businesses in the area, and they are usually pretty good about telling their employees about it.

And such inoculation lasts the better part of a year, at least. So you can relax there without concerned eyes staring at you.


19 posted on 05/02/2013 8:48:55 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: struggle; All

Prohibiting guns in schools is a direct result of the disastrous Gun Free School Zone act of 1996, pushed onto the American people by Bill Clinton.

School administrators zealously push “zero tolerance” because they are afraid that their funding will be cut if they are found *not* to have pushed it.

There is an exception in the law for people who have been issued carry permits.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2012/12/disastrous-gun-law-sparked-school.html


20 posted on 05/02/2013 9:13:31 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
there is still a bias against in places that should really know better—here in Arkansas and my home state of Texas are two examples.

Texas lawmakers are trying to recitfy this situation with HB700 - (Open Carry) in the state legislature. Let's see how it goes this time.

21 posted on 05/02/2013 9:21:48 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: cripplecreek
A woman, who the video claims is a sheriff’s deputy, can be heard expressing concerns about kids seeing the firearm and becoming alarmed. “Obviously, you and I know I can’t stop you…I hope you realize what this is going to do to all those kids down there.”

If the kids have been indoctrinated to be afraid of what are actually tools of freedom, whose fault is that? That's on her, not him. He's the beginning of the solution to the problem she and government-worshipers like her have made, yet SHE tries to guilt HIM.

22 posted on 05/02/2013 9:43:16 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: theDentist

I know I fear for the life of my dog when we see an open carry cop.


23 posted on 05/02/2013 9:47:30 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
Honestly, I have never understood the hysteria regarding open carry on the part of the gun banners. Honest folks open carry, not crooks and thugs.

You answered your own question. It's honest normal people they're trying to disarm. The bad guys are already on their side or at least neutral, so where's the harm in that from their POV? That's just something they need so they can sell it to the intended victims.

24 posted on 05/02/2013 10:33:29 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: cripplecreek
A woman, who the video claims is a sheriff’s deputy, can be heard expressing concerns about kids seeing the firearm and becoming alarmed. “Obviously, you and I know I can’t stop you…I hope you realize what this is going to do to all those kids down there.”

Okay, it's after the fact...go ask the kids how they felt.

25 posted on 05/02/2013 11:11:34 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: struggle

+1


26 posted on 05/02/2013 4:12:08 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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