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Holder Threatens Kansas Over New Gun Law
Breitbart ^ | 5/2/13 | Debra Heine

Posted on 05/02/2013 10:33:37 AM PDT by Nachum

Kansas Governor Sam Brownback received a letter today from Attorney General Eric Holder threatening action against the state should it enforce SB102, the pro 2nd Amendment law Brownback signed into law last month.

The new law declares that the federal government has no power to regulate guns manufactured, sold and kept only in Kansas.

Any act, law, treaty, order, rule or regulation of the government of the United States which violates the second amendment to the constitution of the United States is null, void and unenforceable in the state of Kansas.

The legislation made it a felony for a federal agent to enforce any law, regulation, order or treaty regulating ammunition made, sold and kept in the state because the federal government does not “interstate commerce” authority over such items.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; gun; guncontrol; holder; kansas; secondamendment; threatens
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Obama vs. The 2nd Amendment
1 posted on 05/02/2013 10:33:37 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Could set up an interesting SCOTUS case if it ever goes to court.


2 posted on 05/02/2013 10:35:08 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

Obama vs the 2nd Amendment file

http://www.nachumlist.com/obamav2nd.htm


3 posted on 05/02/2013 10:35:13 AM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Take it to the Supremes, Gov. The sooner, the better. Eric The Red will lose this one.


4 posted on 05/02/2013 10:35:19 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Nachum

Holder needs to be run out of Dodge. Impeach the fascist bastard!


5 posted on 05/02/2013 10:35:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Nachum

If Arizona, now Kansas? WTF is going on? Treasonous, law breaking, dictators.


6 posted on 05/02/2013 10:36:25 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Nachum

Holder is obliged to stay from Kansas or Arizona and probably Texas


7 posted on 05/02/2013 10:36:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: Nachum

Message to those who sat out the last election or voted loonitarian. This would not be happening under Mitt Romney


8 posted on 05/02/2013 10:37:24 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Nachum

Kansas should threaten right back, and mean it!


9 posted on 05/02/2013 10:37:52 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Nachum

States right? Mummmm, where have we heard that before. Seems we fought a war over that once before. I guess it will come down to that again I think or states will bow to the imperial federal government.


10 posted on 05/02/2013 10:38:40 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Nachum

holder is an expert at what is unconstitutional.


11 posted on 05/02/2013 10:38:51 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: dennisw

You mean the guy who signed anti gun laws? Him?

Right.


12 posted on 05/02/2013 10:38:58 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nachum

FUEH


13 posted on 05/02/2013 10:39:16 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: dennisw

And it wouldn’t have happened if the RINO loving idiots did not push Romney in the primaries.


14 posted on 05/02/2013 10:39:55 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Nachum

I suppose the iron and lead does not come from another state?.......


15 posted on 05/02/2013 10:40:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: dennisw

You can thank Tokyo Rove!!


16 posted on 05/02/2013 10:40:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Nachum

Send the dishonorable Fed agent a State of Kansas order to cease and desist in his criminal behavior. I’m not really kidding either. Please?


17 posted on 05/02/2013 10:42:39 AM PDT by veracious
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To: Nachum

If I were the governor of Kansas I might discreetly inquire if the government of Mexico had ever considered an extradition request for the felons behind Fast and Furious. If so it might be an interesting PR point to raise in this discussion. Remember, the Kenyan cannot issue a pardon that works in Mexico.


18 posted on 05/02/2013 10:45:22 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SandRat

I aim to misbehave.


19 posted on 05/02/2013 10:45:40 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Nachum

*shakes head*


20 posted on 05/02/2013 10:47:08 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: dennisw
Message to those who sat out the last election or voted loonitarian. This would not be happening under Mitt Romney

Voter fraud aside, Romney lost because he is a left-winger only slightly to the right of Obama. Deal with it. It's been almost 6 months. How much longer are you people going to keep whining that your fellow conservatives won't vote for liberals?
21 posted on 05/02/2013 10:49:18 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Nachum

They really don’t like that we are a republic of republics. Each state has its own legislature and its own executive. And they have the power to pass and enact laws for their own people. And Holder doesn’t like that.

Holder can send all the letters he wants, but the most he can do is sue the state of Kansas.


22 posted on 05/02/2013 10:49:22 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Nachum

Surely no one here thinks Kansas or any other state with such legislation would prevail in today’s court. Even Scalia thinks the interstate commerce clause allows for intrastate commerce to be regulated.


23 posted on 05/02/2013 10:50:18 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Nachum

Note to Holder, you have to read the laws beore you can vote on them. Oh, pay attention to the part where laws are not subject to voting if you want to keep them or not.

One would think as the head cop of the Nation he would know that.


24 posted on 05/02/2013 10:50:31 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

I’ll be in my bunk.

Cleaning Vera.


25 posted on 05/02/2013 10:52:00 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (It's been over 90 days; time to start on 2014. Carpe GOP!)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

I was taught in the military that I must not obey illegal orders.


26 posted on 05/02/2013 10:52:33 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: fr_freak

Check my post history over the last week. They are still screaming like Klanners at a Stone Mountain Rally.


27 posted on 05/02/2013 10:53:29 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Nachum
Holder, the most corrupt government official other than OBama.

These clowns are doing this in knowing the McCains in D.C. just allow them to violate their oath to the constitution. This is payback for whitey.

28 posted on 05/02/2013 10:56:51 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Nachum
Obama vs. The 2nd Amendment

Obama vs.:
Article 1, Section 8 enumerated powers,
The 2nd Amendment,
The 4th Amendment,
The 9th Amendment, and
The 10th Amendment.

Let's see how far the thugs are willing to push this. Kansas isn't South Carolina of 1860, but it's a real state with real Americans. Freedom is popular in Kansas, probably far more popular than Obama.

29 posted on 05/02/2013 10:57:09 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Nachum

Send a letter back to the big bully and tell him to go Hell..Make sure you have back up with as many names as you can get on the letter backup from the public.. This bastard has to be stopped he thinks he is the other god in Washington


30 posted on 05/02/2013 11:01:14 AM PDT by PLD
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To: dennisw
I certainly didn't vote for the liberal GOP candidate that as a governor, signed an 'assault weapons' ban.

/johnny

31 posted on 05/02/2013 11:02:14 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jim Robinson

Part of the problem in the primaries is that leftwing leaning states are voting early; ie. Iowa and New Hamphire. Deep red states, like mine are some of the last to vote. Those states would most likely go for the more conservative candidates.


32 posted on 05/02/2013 11:02:29 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Jim Robinson
. . . and hung

/.02

33 posted on 05/02/2013 11:04:16 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Nachum

The “justice” department knows how to prosecute when it wants. So then why didn’t it do anything about the black panthers intimidating voters and fast and furious?


34 posted on 05/02/2013 11:08:09 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: ExGeeEye

“I’ll be in my bunk.

Cleaning Vera.”

I know an old gal named Vera! But at 72, she can clean herself!


35 posted on 05/02/2013 11:09:58 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Wounder if the regular shills will show up to have the never ending tantrum on this thread too. Because the principles of the founders are all important unless we actually stick to them.


36 posted on 05/02/2013 11:10:53 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: I want the USA back

And the mooslem from Fort Hood.

Jeez, how many states has Holder sued now?


37 posted on 05/02/2013 11:16:52 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Nachum
It is more than about the 2nd. It is about state's rights. If Kansas can say that the Fedgov can enforce gun laws, then it can say the same about EPA rules or OSHA regs.

What is interesting is that the kept things very low key when Montana tried it, but are escalating on Kansas.

38 posted on 05/02/2013 11:26:24 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Loved that show.


39 posted on 05/02/2013 11:27:29 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Holders people

Free Republic stands for God and Country!!
Stand with Free Republic.

40 posted on 05/02/2013 11:27:49 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: ExGeeEye

This is my rifle,
this is my gun... I digress.


41 posted on 05/02/2013 11:29:04 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: andyk

The court would probably roll over and cite precedent or decline to hear a district courts decision to uphold Holder.

Question is what happens if the governor and Kansas tell the feds, go to hell and ignore the court rulings and DOJ and begin arresting federal agents for violating the states laws?

Depends on how far Kansas is willing to push. It would get even more interesting if other states joined in the arrests of federal agents and prosecutions for violations of state laws.

How would it look with hordes of FBI and US Marshalls or worse military troops roaming around five or six state capitals rounding up and arresting governors and state legislators??? PR nightmare for the feds.


42 posted on 05/02/2013 11:36:05 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Nachum
Note to Eric Holder...
43 posted on 05/02/2013 11:43:38 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: sarge83

That’s it - it depends on how far the states are willing to go.


44 posted on 05/02/2013 11:51:25 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: rarestia

I don’t believe the Federal government has legitimate authority to dictate the extent of their own authority.

In any-event the words: “Congress shall make no law” means no law. If the Federal employees in black robes can’t understand the plain English of No they deserve nether our obedience nor respect.


45 posted on 05/02/2013 11:51:48 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: andyk

They can hang together or separately I believe is the term we are looking for.


46 posted on 05/02/2013 12:10:09 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: Nachum

At what point is it prudent to start talking about a Constitutional Convention? So many Freepers are afraid such a convention might destroy their RKBA, and yet what trajectory are we surely on today?

If we hold a convention, an work product must be ratified by a super-majority of the surviving states. I say “surviving” because a Convention allows us to totally redefine the relationship between the States and the new federated government.

We would have the opportunity to stop the current federal government’s ability to make us debt-serfs and to spend more than it takes in. We would have the opportunity to formalize a way for the States to nullify or repeal an odious federal rule or regulation. We would have an opportunity to restore a rational basis to the law. This very action by Holder is based on the specious power grab the the federal government and counts that is based on Depression-era court case where a man who grew his own grain to feed his own pigs was declared to be engaged in “interstate commerce”. How absurd. Yet this is one of the legs of the stool that supports ObamaCare, another odious law that must be repealed.

At what point is a Convention less dangerous to our liberties and prosperity than our present trajectory? I think we are obligated to revoke the current federal government or we are dead as a free people.


47 posted on 05/02/2013 12:43:54 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: RedMDer

48 posted on 05/02/2013 12:52:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: redgolum

It very well may come, some day, that the feds lack the resources, as they did in the slave days, to enforce their “supremacy”.


49 posted on 05/02/2013 12:54:10 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Travis McGee

Nice!


50 posted on 05/02/2013 1:01:00 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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