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Hunter saves own life after rattlesnake bit him
Grind TV/Yahoo Sports ^ | 5/1/13 | David Strege

Posted on 05/02/2013 2:47:58 PM PDT by Kartographer

Chad Cross was hunting for turkey in the woods in Alabama when a venomous pit viper rattlesnake bit him in the lower left leg. Nervous and scared, the Montgomery resident attempted to calm himself and slow his heart rate so as to prevent the quick spreading of the deadly venom throughout his body. He then made a move that saved his life. He pulled out his $10 snake-bite kit. WSFA has the incredible story:

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TOPICS: US: Alabama; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: firstaid; preppers; rattlesnake; snake; snakebite
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1 posted on 05/02/2013 2:47:58 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 05/02/2013 2:48:55 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Cutting to the punchline before the rest of the perverts around here.

"Doc says you're gonna die."

3 posted on 05/02/2013 2:49:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Kartographer

http://firstaid.webmd.com/snakebite-treatment

Attempting to suck out the venom from a snake bite is a no-no.


4 posted on 05/02/2013 2:52:20 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Kartographer

Read “The Yearling” for an excellent tip on how to survive rattlesnake bite.


5 posted on 05/02/2013 2:54:50 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Billthedrill

You Beat me to it! lol


6 posted on 05/02/2013 2:58:37 PM PDT by Autonomous User (Pain Fades. Chicks Dig Scars. Glory, lasts forever.)
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To: Snickering Hound

He used a snakebite kit which involves suctioning out some of the venom does it not? That site you referenced seems to say do not cut the wound, lie still and wait for help. I know that is oversimplification but that is what I quickly read. It seems he might be dead if he followed that advice. If I misread welcome clarification. Thanks.


7 posted on 05/02/2013 3:01:55 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Billthedrill

LOL Just told that one 2 nights ago.


8 posted on 05/02/2013 3:04:53 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Snickering Hound

The Indians used to go to sleep after beng bit, as moving around and a higher heart rate is what kills you. I think attempting to suck out the venom with your mouth is a no no but I don’t knoe about the sucker he had.


9 posted on 05/02/2013 3:06:20 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Billthedrill

I think of that joke every time I hear of a snake bite.
Love it...


10 posted on 05/02/2013 3:08:03 PM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: Kartographer

This was a “venomous pit viper rattlesnake.” Well, all rattlesnakes are pit vipers, and they are also all venomous. If he had just called it a rattlesnake, his heart might have beaten more slowly.

Anyway, he is lucky to be alive. Even very slight rattlesnake bites can be fatal.


11 posted on 05/02/2013 3:16:17 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: Kartographer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2_eBuhHF5s


12 posted on 05/02/2013 3:16:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kartographer

I have tons of them. One in each daypack, two in the GOOD pack, just in case the lil Bass turd bites twice or is so Yuge! the fangs are too far separated, requiring two of these things.

Have one in the med kit under the bathroom sink, next to my burn kit.

And a couple under my bed.

I got a problem with impulse buying.

All that said, this guy would have died. He got bit in absolutely the worst spot. Well, maybe not the worst spot, which brings up the cowboy joke. Won’t go there.

Still, less than 10 people die each year from snake bites.

I’m more worried about picking up ticks. Had tick fever once. Sucked. The pills had me sleeping for almost two weeks.


13 posted on 05/02/2013 3:19:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kartographer

I bought a snake bite kit once. Nothing in it but a set of teeth.


14 posted on 05/02/2013 3:19:44 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: Snickering Hound

That’s orally but, you should absolutely use this device if you are bit by a snake, stabbed by a hornet or bee.


15 posted on 05/02/2013 3:20:36 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: plain talk

He would be dead if he just sat there and did nothing.


16 posted on 05/02/2013 3:21:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Kartographer
I'm glad you posted this. I have a snake bite kit that comes in a box with picture of snake on it and I've had it so many years, I don't know what's in there. I do know it's many years old and there has to be better devices now.

I'll check this out and get something.

I found a rattlesnake on my back porch one day and beat its head to death and put it in a bottle and it was still alive the next day. Animal dept. person came that day to pick it up and she said even though it was moving it was dead but didn't know it. However, she wasn't going to take it out of that bottle. She took snake in bottle with her.

I will research the best thing for snake bites these days. Here in Texas, we've got rattlesnakes and water moccasins in my area and in west Texas, huge rattlesnakes and I don't know if coral snakes are there.

Someone from west Texas, tell us the ones that are there.

17 posted on 05/02/2013 3:24:34 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Billthedrill
"Doc says you're gonna die."

(snicker, snort) Love it.

18 posted on 05/02/2013 3:27:36 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Cyprus - the beginning)
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To: Kartographer

When I was young, the advice was, make an X incision with a razor blade over the puncture(s) and suck out the venom and if you have the kit that has anti-venom, you were supposed to inject that.
I’m glad they changed the procedure because I knew I was gonna die and it wasn’t because my Indian friend wouldn’t suck out the poison.


19 posted on 05/02/2013 3:27:36 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Kartographer

I have always heard that if a man is bitten when he is in his twenties and healthy that such a person rarely dies.


20 posted on 05/02/2013 3:32:14 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Marcella

OK folks there not many people on this site that have hunted and handled more live rattlers than me. Over the years I’ve been hit 4 times by rattlers, only once was I handling. If you want to try and pull/suck the venom out go ahead but do not cut it! If possible pack with ice and get to the ER, the main thing is get to the ER. I know atleast 50 people that have been hit by rattlers and they’re all still breathing but some have lasting damage. Rattlesnake venom is a hemotoxin and will literaly destroy flesh but the effects can be slowed down with antivenom, get it as quick as you can.


21 posted on 05/02/2013 3:46:00 PM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Kartographer

Someone from my hometown posted a picture on Facebook of a snake they killed. The rattlesnake was nearly 10’ long, had 20 rattles. It was huge. Luckily they got it before it got them. I do not like those things at all. Glad this person survived.


22 posted on 05/02/2013 3:47:26 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Kartographer
I was out hiking last week and accidentally stepped on a copperhead. Fortunately my boot came down on his head, so it was his tail that struck me.

While copperhead bites are usually nonlethal, they will make you pretty sick. This was a three-footer and I was almost four miles from the trailhead. It would not have been a fun trek out of there.

23 posted on 05/02/2013 3:48:01 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Kartographer
This is the Sawyer Extractor Kit and there is still discussion whether it works or not or should be used, but it seems to work really well on insect stings and that's enough for me to get it. I don't do well with a mosquito bite - turns into a red whelp that itches for days. This device appears to keep that from happening. I'd surely use it on bee and wasp stings, and yes, I'd use it on a snake bite really fast and head to Emergency Room.
24 posted on 05/02/2013 3:50:36 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

We have timber rattlers and copperheads here in north Jersey, and no recorded case of a person dying from a bite (ever). Usually the snakes try to avoid you (feeling your vibrations in the ground as you approach), but the problems are 1) copperheads are thick, slow snakes - they have a hard time getting out of the way in time - and 2) people rock-climbing reach up where they can’t see, and disturb timber rattlers sunning themselves on the rocks. Many people don’t realize that poisonous snakes can give a “dry bite” (non-venomous); the venom is a digestive aid, and SUPPOSEDLY they wouldn’t waste it on something they can’t eat (because they have to take time producing more). In any case, I think it helps if you keep the bitten area below the level of your heart; I’d also use an “almost-tourniquet” (not completely cutting off the circulation, but slowing it) if I was simply waiting for an ambulance. As a hiker, I have the kit this guy used, and it is impressive. It works like a syringe but sucks, and comes with different sized “suckers” to best match your bite.

I have a nice picture of a reared-up copperhead on the Palisades overlooking the Hudson River; it despaired of escaping and figured it had a better chance fighting.


25 posted on 05/02/2013 3:51:42 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Dusty Road

“If possible pack with ice and get to the ER,”

Yes, use ice, go to emergency room. If I had the extractor I’d use it fast, then ice clamped on it, then take off to ER.


26 posted on 05/02/2013 3:54:38 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Kartographer

The bottom line to this was known long ago. Keep calm and get to an emergency room as fast as you can. There is nothing you can do in the field that is better than what they can do.

Also, if at all possible, kill and take the snake with you. Different snakes need different anti-venom. And oddly enough, when rattlesnakes cross breed, they can produce a venom much less resistant to the standard anti-venom for either snake.


27 posted on 05/02/2013 4:01:16 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Marcella

I’ve heard numerous times these suction cup don’t offer much help. They probably don’t hurt though. Gives you something to do while trying to calm down.


28 posted on 05/02/2013 4:01:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do ithat when I have a fire.)
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To: kearnyirish2
Venom is probably like any toxic substance it depends upon the concentration of the venom injected, the age and health of the victim, and the closeness of care to the sting. My first cousin lives in Dallas Texas and he had a Copperhead crawl into the concrete opening where one turns on ones sprinklers. He said the same thing as you in that the Copperhead is slow and not aggressive.

We have here in my region of California what is known as "The Mojave Green." It injects a combination hemotoxin and neurotoxin. There is an additional problem for victims of that snake's bite in that the proportions of neurotoxin to hemotoxin vary from habitat to habitat. It is best that the treating doctor knows where you were bit.

29 posted on 05/02/2013 4:07:32 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Reminds me of a story. Ya see there were these two good ole boys out hunting and....well never mind.

So, who’s gonna be the one to post the whole thing?


30 posted on 05/02/2013 4:12:45 PM PDT by saleman
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To: kearnyirish2
"We have timber rattlers and copperheads here in north Jersey”

We also have copperheads in Texas.

31 posted on 05/02/2013 4:13:34 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: docbnj

At least he didn’t say “automatic” venomous pit viper rattlesnake


32 posted on 05/02/2013 4:14:52 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: Marcella

You CAN suck out the venom because the gastric juices in your
digestive track destroy the venom. However, mechanical suction
devices work much better.


33 posted on 05/02/2013 4:19:19 PM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: Billthedrill; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Cincinatus' Wife; ..
Re: Cutting to the punchline before the rest of the perverts around here: "Doc says you're gonna die."

"Kemosabe, doctor say... you gonna die--"

Cliff, old buddy, the doc says for me to drink this bloody mary... before I tell you that you're going to die.

Frank, I love ya, old sport... but doc says you're going to die.

Miles, I called my doctor in St Olaf... and he says you're going to die.

Tiger, the doctors says... you're going to die.

Oberst Klink, sagt der Arzt... dass du gehst zu sterben.

Clyde says... you're going to die.

Survey says... you're going to die.

Mongo may be only pawn in game of love, but even he know... you're going to die!

Yep, big, I've got a cheddar headache and you're... going to die.

I don't give a damn what the court-martial finds my punishment is... Steve Maryk is going to die!

Bill, the doc says... you're going to die.

Luke, die...  photo Yoda-1-L-250.gif you will.

Walter, you're... going to die--

Bendy, this is your lucky day! You're... NOT going to die!

Gadzooks! Live by the sword...  photo y-a-B-look-4-X.gif die by the sword--

34 posted on 05/02/2013 4:22:08 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Snickering Hound

I think they say that to stop people from trying to suck it out with their mouths, because it’s just going to poison two people when they do that.


35 posted on 05/02/2013 4:24:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Vendome
Have one in the med kit under the bathroom sink, next to my burn kit. And a couple under my bed. I got a problem with impulse buying.

You straight people are kinda kinky that way....heh

36 posted on 05/02/2013 4:25:23 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Piffle....)
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To: Kartographer
Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.

W. C. Fields

37 posted on 05/02/2013 4:26:44 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Marcella

” she said even though it was moving it was dead but didn’t know it.”

It’s amazing how long some things can “move” after they are technically dead. You can behead a cockroach, and the body will run around for a week just on reflexes until the body basically starves.


38 posted on 05/02/2013 4:28:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: OregonRancher

Yeah, but the venom destroys tissue, so it might still do a number on your mouth & throat, I imagine. Plus, if you had a cut in your mouth, you’d be in big trouble.


39 posted on 05/02/2013 4:30:26 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
here in my region of California what is known as "The Mojave Green."

Ditto that here in the Coachella Valley...a couple of summers ago I'd just finished hacking a Western Diamondback in the front yard when wifey came thru the house and advised me there was another hissing in the back.

He got into a position where I couldn't get the Mutt-hoe on him, so I called Animal Control.

Making a long story short, the guy showed up in the front, eyeballing the Western and started in with the usual "Rattlesnakes are our friends" BS while we walked around back.....he spied the second culprit and yelled, "Sh*t!! That's a Mohave!! If you ever see one, kill it!!"

40 posted on 05/02/2013 4:31:21 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Piffle....)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Venom is probably like any toxic substance it depends upon the concentration of the venom injected, the age and health of the victim

From everything I've read on the subject, those are the two important factors. (When I moved to rattlesnake country, I did a bit of research. Have killed 4 already this spring, and seen a half-dozen more on the roads. Shaping up to be a bad summer for rattlers here.)

Rattlers don't always inject much venom when biting humans, since they're not hunting us (too big to eat!) and only defending themselves. Baby rattlers, however, haven't yet learned to control their venom flow and are therefore much more deadly.
41 posted on 05/02/2013 4:33:18 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

WOW! That is a lot of poisonous snakes. What region of the country.


42 posted on 05/02/2013 4:35:46 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Snickering Hound
"Attempting to suck out the venom from a snake bite is a no-no."

I can think of some circumstances where it may be appropriate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2_eBuhHF5s

43 posted on 05/02/2013 4:36:15 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Bender2

Tony Romo....sorry, Jerra...but you gonna die, boy!


44 posted on 05/02/2013 4:40:41 PM PDT by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Billthedrill
A construction worker falls several stories off of a scaffold. He breaks almost every bone in his body, but miraculously lives. He wakes up in the hospital with full body cast and a catheter, The doctor comes in to see him and says “You're a lucky man”.

They guy says, “I don't feel lucky”.

45 posted on 05/02/2013 4:41:17 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Bender2
Reminds me of the old hunter joke.....he calls an outfitter in Alaska, Says Hey I'm coming up there to do some hunting and asks, Look I know about Alaska's long gun laws, but what about handguns can I bring my .357 in case of a bear attack????
The outfitter says Yeah no problem , when you get past the airport security your good to go, but a .357 is much too small, in case of a big ole Mama Grisly jumping out of the bushes at you.. your gonna want the biggest gun you can find to blow your head off
46 posted on 05/02/2013 4:41:18 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Kartographer

A rattlesnake will not kill a full grown adult. There is more loss of life and limb from people doing crazy things to try to remove or stop the spread of venom. The only thing to do is stay calm and seek medical care. Period.


47 posted on 05/02/2013 4:44:01 PM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

The only snake in the US that will kill a healthy adult is a coral snake. All the rest may make you sick and cause pain, but will not kill. More life and limb has been lost from people doing crazy things after being bitten than from the bites themselves. In addition, at least with rattlesnakes, only a third of bites involve any venom as all. I treat multiple rattlesnake bites every spring. If bitten stay calm and seek medical care.


48 posted on 05/02/2013 4:48:22 PM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

“It is best that the treating doctor knows where you were bit.”

Absilutely; I read in one hiking manual that you should bring the dead snake (if able). Never read that anywhere else; I’ve left them alone when I see them (except for pictures), but I’d feel really bad if someone was bitten by one I’d passed earlier in the day.


49 posted on 05/02/2013 4:58:16 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Marcella

Most of our snakes here in NJ are harmless; the copperheads and rattlers are found in the higher elevations to the north and northwest (which aren’t very populated - former mining areas turned to parkland and such).


50 posted on 05/02/2013 5:02:38 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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