Posted on 05/03/2013 2:14:35 AM PDT by markomalley
It’s been my experience that the folks who govern these sorts of athletic boards are some of the most hidebound, humorless bleeps you’ll find.
As for the decision, I think it sucks...though I do generally see why the rule about hand gestures is in place. Low-class “in yo’ face!” crap is part and parcel of a lot of athletics these days, and not just at the pro level. It’s just a real shame a kid who pretty clearly wasn’t taunting anybody (and in fact, was being rather humble by thanking God) is a victim of a “one size fits all” regulation without any real immediate recourse but to take it on the chin.
Rules are rules
Zero tolerance. And any kid who points a French fry at another kid and says "bang" should be expelled and arrested. /s
Texas is becoming Red Hampshire...coasting on former reputation.
Tyranny.
FWIW smiling is a “celebratory gesture.” Did they disqualify every winner who smiled? Or just the ones who appeared to be recognizing the source of their God given abilities?
Call me stupid, but I don't know what religion has the gesture of one finger raised to the sky.
If they finished first, then one finger looks like someone's saying "#1" to the world. That's what one finger raised to the sky after a victory means anywhere else I've ever seen it. I have never seen one finger raised to the sky mean "God".
So, my sense is that the family is being coy and trying to turn this into a religious discrimination case.
Call me crazy, and certainly biased. I ran track and coached it for about 8 years. It has a bunch of really dumb rules about bracelets, rings, spandex under shorts, and even their "celebration" rule can be called arcane.
However, it is a rule no matter how dumb, and the "one finger = God" thing has escaped me in my 33 years of ordained ministry.
As Granny says in Josie Wales: "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining."
Yep...and if we keep it up...all of us will violate one of these idiotic PC rules eventually...including you.
Some day you are going to get busted with a weapon (when they've been outlawed)...but you should have known better 'cause "rules are rules."
The Bill of Rights and our Constitution RULES! I can hear the money coming. What a bunch of stupid whimps!!!
Here’s the problem, schools have become increasingly hostile to any and all forms of Christian expression. The gesture he gave is pretty consistent with the religious expressions of football players that point to the heavens either following a touchdown or at the end of a game or baseball pitchers who point upwards to the heavens after getting that final out. The gestures are not intended to taunt anyone but to recognize God. In that sense it is purely a religious observance.
Any rule which prohibits religious expression is subject to strict scrutiny and the rule must not be so overly broad that it impinges upon a persons right to practice their faith so long as it does not unreasonably interfere with anyone else’s rights.
In this case any rule which would prevent an athlete from making any gesture that could be interpreted as being a religious expression should be void on its face. The kid’s actual motives are irrelevant in that the rule itself is unconstitutionally overbroad.
Maybe his claim that this was a religious expression was an afterthought, but the government cannot make an inquiry as to whether or not he is truly religious. The only inquiry is whether this gesture can be interpreted as a religious gesture. If it can, then the rule cannot prohibit it.
Did you get your law degree as a prize in a box of Cracker Jacks?
“This happened in TEXAS ? ?”
That’s what I’m thinking. As a Texian, I’m totally embarrassed. When I first saw the news spot I thought “there goes some of those east coast/west coast idiots again.” But here in Texas? Don’t know who has over site of the UIL but this needs fix’en ASAP!
The assertion is that judgment was used to punish this religious act. The judge simply ruled that an act was disrespectful in his opinion and used his power to DQ.
IMO, such a drastic consequence requires clear evidence and explanation ... not simply a declaration “in the judge’s opinion, the athlete was disrespectful” with the only clarifying information being “the athlete raised his hand”...
That is a good explanation. Anything that can be interpreted as a religious expression should over-ride. However, in this case, the officials cannot be faulted. No one knows the "Finger = God" expression, whether that's what the kid meant or not. (And which I still think is not likely. I think the officials are right: One finger pointed to the sky after winning equals "#1" being broadcast to the crowd.) Therefore, the officials must enforce a relatively dumb rule, although an NFL endzone celebration makes me puke. That is far more, though, than one finger pointed to the sky.
I have heard that a hip-swaying, shouting, gaggle of celebrants is really a liturgical dance in honor of God.
LOL!
Maybe he was pointing at Uranus.
I bet that they would like.
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If this crap continues, I may be pointing at Mars...if you know what I mean.
He might have an out if he says that he was pointing to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
That is in the 10th Congressional District McCaul (R). Now all we need is to get he information on the “judge” and the organization to make a public spectacle out of them. Who, knows, he could have been giving thanks to his grandparents who may have passed, it don’t know. More importantly, it doesn’t matter.
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