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Tea Party Senators Prep for Immigration Battle
breitbart.com ^ | Matthew Boyle | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 05/03/2013 3:35:07 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

Sens. Rand Paul (R-KY), Mike Lee (R-UT) and Ted Cruz (R-TX) now each appear to be positioning themselves in the fight against the push for the “Gang of Eight” immigration bill in much the same way the Senate’s Tea Party triumvirate knocked down the left’s push for new gun control legislation.

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“I believe that any real comprehensive immigration reform must implement strong national security protections,” Paul wrote to Reid. “The facts emerging in the Boston Marathon bombing have exposed a weakness in our current system. If we don't use this debate as an opportunity to fix flaws in our current system, flaws made even more evident last week, then we will not be doing our jobs.”

“We should not proceed until we understand the specific failures of our immigration system,” Paul added. “Why did the current system allow two individuals to immigrate to the United States from the Chechen Republic in Russia, an area known as a hotbed of Islamic extremism, who then committed acts of terrorism? Were there any safeguards? Could this have been prevented? Does the immigration reform before us address this?”

In a recent Washington Times op-ed, too, Paul wrote that he is “committed to immigration reform that will secure the border, secure the vote and secure the taxpayers’ money from the welfare state.”

Then, during an interview with the Fox News Channel’s Sean Hannity on his radio program last Wednesday, Hannity, with regard to the Gang of Eight border security provisions, told Paul: “I have zero faith it will be done and done right.”

“I couldn’t agree with you more,” Paul answered.

Paul has argued that the Gang of Eight plan does not include any provisions like Motor Voter reform that would “secure the vote.”

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens

1 posted on 05/03/2013 3:35:07 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

We must stop illegals at the border before any immigration bill AKA Amnesty occurs.

If we don’t we will be passing these amnesty bill ad infinitum every few years as this country become annexed by Mexico and their Hispanic speaking Southern neighbors.

An annexation I might add that is approved by many in our Congress.


2 posted on 05/03/2013 3:42:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: BarnacleCenturion
If they're going to do this thing they need to first get a whole list of concessions from Mexico—the only beneficiary this deal. These concessions would come in the form of a treaty. For every Mexican given U.S. citizenship an American citizen should be given U.S.-Mexican dual citizenship. If 12 million Mexican get U.S. citizenship, 12 million Americans get dual citizenship. These dual citizenships would be attractive to anyone doing business in Mexico, to retirees wishing to live in Mexico, to frequent tourists, journalists, etc. They could be auctioned off to the general public.

Another concession would be for Mexico to pay for the construction and maintenance of half of the border security fence. They should agree to move the border south to enhance security in certain areas.

3 posted on 05/03/2013 3:55:13 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I am more confident with Cruz and Lee than Paul in fighting Rubio-Obama Illegal Alien/Islamic Terrorist Amnesty

I want to see this travesty filibustered. If Cruz or Lee or both filibuster this....they are the front runners in 2016


4 posted on 05/03/2013 4:12:32 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

LOCK AND LOAD BOYS!

LLS


5 posted on 05/03/2013 4:32:43 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

What’s with Rush’s love fest with Rubio and defending and giving him cover over this gang of 8 scam. Rush is going to be very disappointed with Rubio in the end.


6 posted on 05/03/2013 4:35:35 AM PDT by stockpirate (Planned Parenthood, murdering black children one baby at a time.......where is the outrage)
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To: All
ATROCITIES UP THE KAZOO---ENTIRE THIRD WORLD BECOME WARDS OF US TXPAYERS:

<><> Deos not keep slobbering illegals out of the welfare trough.

<><> Gives Obomba's militarized DHS even more power.

<><> Gives enormous power over Americans to the corrupt Third World.

<><> Grants amnesty to illegal aliens simply after the DHS Secy submits her jerry-built plans to secure the border;

<><> Grants amnesty to criminals and gang members swarming into the US;

<><> Does not require amnestied illegal aliens to pay back-taxes;

<><> Does not require amnestied illegal aliens to learn English;

<><>Allows illegal aliens to sue the US government for amnesty;

<><> Allows "ethinc solidarity" to reign: lobbies can sue to prevent enforcement measures from taking place before illegal aliens can receive green cards;

<><> Requires taxpayers foot the bill for illegal aliens to fight deportations (at the AG’s sole and unreviewable discretion);

<><> Requires only 3 of 9 southern border sectors to have a 90% apprehension rate, leaving the rest in "porous status";

<><> Grants green cards and citizenship after 5 years to illegal aliens claiming (no proof needed) to have come to the US before the age of 16;

<><>Effectively halts all deportations for years by prohibiting deportation until the illegal alien’s application is adjudicated;

<><> Extorts "slush funds" amounting to $150 million tax dollars (as a starter) to ethnic solidarity groups like La Raza ( which advocates bloody, violent uprisings agaiinst Americans);

<><> Allows the ethnic solidarity bunch to sue to prevent enforcement measures from taking place before illegal aliens can receive green cards;

<><> Requires taxpayers to foot the bill for illegals to fight deportation.

<><> Requires no penalties for the thousands of illegals w/ forged/faked multiplte identities (a common practice).

<><> Allows illegals to freely slobber at the public trough under several identities.......sending US tax dollars back to their homelands.

<><> Does not include key provisions like Motor Voter reform that would “secure the vote.”

7 posted on 05/03/2013 4:38:47 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: All
HAVE OUR LEGISLATORS LEARNED BOTHING FROM BOSTON? Immigration reform is the gateway to terrorism. Confers unlimited power on corrupt "ethnic solidarity" lobbyists, latino groups, and Third World governments.....all of it enforced by Obomba's militarized DHS and politicized DOJ.

US politicans aiding and abetting "ethnic solidarity" should be investigated----determine who is giving them their marching orders. We demand prosections for collusion and conspiracy with foreign agents to undermine US ntl security and endanger Americans.

The word is out: "undocumented" terrorists, come on down---invade the US, and bring bombs. It's open season to conduct dirty deeds....and US politicans are helping us."

(more below)

8 posted on 05/03/2013 4:44:03 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I don’t trust a single one of them. American sovereignty always finds itself on the trading block eventually. Then we’ll be told about how “great” the final deal is for us.


9 posted on 05/03/2013 4:44:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Scratch this one http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/rep-paul-ryan-now-backs-adoption-children-homosexuals, he backs homosexuals adopting children. What other libtard crapola does he back?


10 posted on 05/03/2013 4:46:14 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WON'T DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

We need only secure the entrance to the US and leave the exit wide open. :-)


11 posted on 05/03/2013 4:59:27 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Create a new ID. Require it to get a paycheck or to get a gov’t freebie. Enforce those two and the illegals will deport themselves. Enforce those two and current Border Patrol staffing can handle the drug smugglers.


12 posted on 05/03/2013 5:26:17 AM PDT by csmusaret (America is more divided today , not because of the problems we face but because of Obama's solutions)
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To: BarnacleCenturion; Tennessee Nana; Liz; AuntB; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; ...
RE :”Sens. Rand Paul (R-KY), Mike Lee (R-UT) and Ted Cruz (R-TX) now each appear to be positioning themselves in the fight against the push for the “Gang of Eight” immigration bill in much the same way the Senate’s Tea Party triumvirate knocked down the left’s push for new gun control legislation. ...
“I believe that any real comprehensive immigration reform must implement strong national security protections,” Paul wrote to Reid. “The facts emerging in the Boston Marathon bombing have exposed a weakness in our current system. If we don’t use this debate as an opportunity to fix flaws in our current system, flaws made even more evident last week, then we will not be doing our jobs.”

Not surprising to me. Not sure what Paul is claiming he is for/against, didnt he recently go to court Hispanics?

Rubio still has McCain, Grahamnesty, Shumer and Durbin on his side for this compromise.

I wouldnt be surprised if Rubio eventually flips on this bill, finding some excuse. .

13 posted on 05/03/2013 6:06:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy; BillyBoy; Liz

~ two weeks ago a Rand Paul fan here assured me that he would find an excuse to oppose this bill, while still taking a somewhat compassionate position (rhetoric) on legalization.

looks like this is it.

Right now killing this bill is at the top of our list.


14 posted on 05/03/2013 6:17:46 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
I wouldnt be surprised if Rubio eventually flips on this bill, finding some lame excuse.

As the details emerge, Rubio loses more and more status, and knows he can kiss his prez aspirations goodbye. He is reduced to saying he wasn't "duped"....and seems to be throwing in the towel w/ his statement that the House won't pass it.

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But all is not lost (cackle). As I posted yesterday....Rubio can (and should) redeem himself.

All he has to do is name names---name the latino lobbyists who wrote this treasonous bill---name the latinos who cunningly connived to force the "poison of ethnic solidarity" into our laws.

Rube needs to name names...who got paid to endanger Americans, to destroy our culture, to undermine US ntl security, to force the poison of ethnic solidarity down our throats.

We need names so Americans can prosecute and imprison latino lobbyists who wrote the Schumer-Rubio "immigration reform" bill atrocity.

15 posted on 05/03/2013 6:20:43 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Liz
RE :”I wouldnt be surprised if Rubio eventually flips on this bill, finding some lame excuse. \
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As the details emerge, Rubio loses more and more status, and knows he can kiss his prez aspirations goodbye. He is reduced to saying he wasn't “duped”....and seems to be throwing in the towel w/ his statement that the House won't pass it. “

Try this from Rand:
Look Liz, this is not the bill we need. I only recently found out what was in it and it shocked me.
It doesnt protect the border enough. We need to scrap this bill and start over,
Maybe when I am POTUS we can do this right. Millions of immigrants deserve it and are natural conservatives and want the border secure now so they can work hard and pay taxes.
But I want to thank my fellow team eight members for their hard work and dedication on this.

16 posted on 05/03/2013 6:28:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Liz
RE :”We need names so Americans can prosecute and imprison latino lobbyists who wrote the Schumer-Rubio “immigration reform” bill atrocity.”

You are ahead of everyone else on this.

On our local AM station WCBM they were pointing out that the gang of eight called illegals in to testify on bill hearings (CSPAN ) but would not allow border patrol or police to testify.

That tells us plenty.

17 posted on 05/03/2013 6:32:24 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Liz

Sorry, I meant Rubio and typed Rand. Poor editing


18 posted on 05/03/2013 6:33:25 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Initially Rand appeared reluctant to counter Rubio but it is good to see him stepping up. I don’t think it is too much to ask that we have leaders that stand up for the conservative position on immigration which is security first. We can not have a relaxing of legal residency requirements when we don’t even have E-verify requirements for Motor Voter which has shown to have caused the improper registration of countless non citizens when they applied for driver’s licenses. The most notorious case was the fact that 8 of the 9-11 hijackers were registered to vote.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2007/11/02/eight-9-11-hijackers-were-registered-vote-will-msm-drive-story

The left has purposely pushed to eliminate distinctions between legal and non-resident drivers licenses and have adamantly refusing to close loopholes but of course motor voter does not just apply to DMV. There has been a big push to expand it to Welfare offices and even in Obamacare. If anyone doesn’t see this as a big problem they have their head in the sand. As illegal aliens are granted legal residency they are certain to be more likely to seek benefits and many more will be registered to vote and many will vote which is effectively canceling out a citizen’s vote.

If the border and the vote is not secured then any relaxed residency program for illegal aliens should be a no go. We can not afford to give this gift to Obama. I know Rubio is trying to make it work but history shows trusting Democrats on anything is just stupid. The better approach is to counter the Democrat meme of being anti-illegal immigrant rather than grant them a path to growing their political dominance. If the GOP wants to improve relations in the Hispanic community they need to actually show up at events and go door to door in Hispanic neighborhoods and talk with Hispanic people because liberalized illegal immigration is not good for them. It will make it harder for them and their children to get jobs and opportunities as well as everyone else. The black community is already bearing the brunt of leaky sieve immigration.

Also the GOP has an opportunity to take a populist path in ways that would be favorable to working class citizens. Companies that apply for work visas could be required to show that they have opened the positions to US citizens first.


19 posted on 05/03/2013 6:39:07 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: sickoflibs

Rubio will not flip. He is McCain with a ‘accent’.


20 posted on 05/03/2013 6:39:44 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria; Liz
RE :”Rubio will not flip. He is McCain with a ‘accent’.

I said maybe.

If Rubio is really running he wants to play both sides, Republicans and Hispanics against Dems.

Its a tricky game Rube is trying.

In contrast Rand avoided the bill and just praised Hispanics with sweet talk.

21 posted on 05/03/2013 6:44:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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Secure our borders - Defend our Constitution!
Uphold your oath of office.

FR is funded solely by the freedom loving folks who love and use it.

22 posted on 05/03/2013 7:28:49 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Liz
......”HAVE OUR LEGISLATORS LEARNED NOTHING FROM BOSTON?”....

What's to learn?....we are ‘expected’ to live with the fact we are now getting what all other nations do with terrorists....no skin off politicians noses...

The real question is how much longer is it going to take true Americans to realize there is nothing out of Washington that is going to change this invasion of our country. ...

...it will remain a “Conveyor Belt” in and out of this country for foreigners, legal and otherwise, with Washington's support, Our Educational Institutes support, Our TSA support, and many others assisting.... and this no matter who is in office there.

23 posted on 05/03/2013 8:35:49 AM PDT by caww
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To: BarnacleCenturion

So Cruz and Rand are agoinst this Amnesty?

I think I found who i want for prez in 2016 cruz then rand


24 posted on 05/03/2013 8:36:16 AM PDT by Democrat_media (D's & Mary Landrieu voted 4 UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: SeminoleCounty

“If Cruz or Lee or both filibuster this....they are the front runners in 2016”

There is tremendous pressure to go along, so if they can do this it will prove their mettle, imo.

This is the kind of new blood we need now.


25 posted on 05/03/2013 8:45:52 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Keep your eyes on Jesus. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
If they're going to do this thing they need to first get a whole list of concessions from Mexico—the only beneficiary this deal. These concessions would come in the form of a treaty. For every Mexican given U.S. citizenship an American citizen should be given U.S.-Mexican dual citizenship. If 12 million Mexican get U.S. citizenship, 12 million Americans get dual citizenship.

Jeez, I'd love to vote in the Mexican elections...Mexicans vote in ours!!!

26 posted on 05/03/2013 9:23:26 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul in 2016)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I thought Paul was part of the “let the entire world roam free in the 50 states” crowd?


27 posted on 05/03/2013 9:35:08 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: caww

If WE don’t demand changes-—the pols carry on, as usual——nothng will happen.


28 posted on 05/03/2013 9:38:17 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: Venturer

This is not true since the last amnesty was passed in 1986. My math calculations indicates that was 27 years ago. Of course many changes need to happen but if 100 percent security is implemented, there will be zero commerce. No commerce means no business, then no money, and then we can be so secure that the country goes completely broke. That is not an option.


29 posted on 05/04/2013 8:39:08 AM PDT by robertwestesq (Robert West http://www.robertwest.net)
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To: Liz; sickoflibs

“We need names so Americans can prosecute and imprison latino lobbyists who wrote the Schumer-Rubio “immigration reform” bill atrocity. “

Amen!


30 posted on 05/06/2013 11:27:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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