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Suspend Muslim immigration, Muslim military service, building of mosques
Renew America ^ | May 2, 2013 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 05/03/2013 4:38:41 AM PDT by NYer

Somebody has to be the first to say it.

It's time, for the sake of the security of the United States of America, to immediately suspend Muslim immigration, to preclude Muslims from service in our military and to stop the building of mosques.

(The matters of Muslim military service and the building of mosques will need to be subjects of future columns.)

It should go without saying that I am speaking just for myself here. But these possibilities must be addressed and discussed in a sober fashion. The reality is that we will wind up doing these three things out of necessity if we do not do them out of wisdom. We need to make these adjustments before it's too late rather than after it's too late.

We should suspend Muslim immigration into the United States immediately. Why? Because Muslims bring with them a totalitarian ideology that calls for the submission of the United States to Islam and Sharia law.

Pew released its findings yesterday on its worldwide survey of Muslims, and revealed that two-thirds of Middle Eastern Muslims believe in the death penalty for any Muslim who converts to Christianity, and one-third believe in suicide bombings. This is not a religion of peace or liberty. Every tenet of Islam is fundamentally, irreversibly, subversively and implacably hostile to every value we cherish in America.

Muslim immigrants bring with them a totalitarian ideology whose holy book calls for the followers of Allah to "slay the idolaters wherever you find them" (Sura 9:5). The more devout a Muslim becomes, the more likely he is to obey such a command, as Tamerlan Tsarnaev illustrates, and the more of a threat he becomes to the security of the United States and the safety of the American people.

When I first began calling for an end to Muslim immigration in 2009, I was virtually a lone voice crying in the wilderness. But Andy McCarthy has since called for the suspension of immigration from Muslim majority nations, and Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy has called for precluding "shariah-adherent Muslims" from our shores, in a fashion similar to our post WWII ban on immigrants who adhered to communist ideology.

Since the Boston Muslim Massacre, Laura Ingraham has called for a ban on Muslim immigration, and more significantly, John McCain just yesterday suggested restrictions on immigration from countries with a "significant influence of radical Islamic extremism." Both Marco Rubio and Rand Paul have openly called for considering the suspension of student visas to Muslim males.

Suspending Muslim immigration to the United States is an idea whose time has come.

Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders, based on Europe's bitter experience with virtually unrestricted Muslim immigration, has been calling for this for years, and imploring America to wake up and smell the Sharia before we become we seal our doom.

Of course, the majority of Muslim immigrants do not want to kill us, but they are not the Muslims we have to worry about. The problem is we have no way of distinguishing the Muslims we do have to worry about from the ones we don't. And we can't watch them all.

Dzokhar Tsarnaev is a case in point. All of his friends and classmates said he was quiet, fun, one of us, and so forth. They all expressed shock that he went jihad on Americans. The only way to have prevented him from participating in the Boston Muslim Massacre would have been not to allow him in the country in the first place.

While this may seem unfair to Muslims who have no hostile intentions toward us, that is not our fault. The blame for such a blanket policy lies with the Muslims who do have hostile intentions toward us and have been responsible for no less than 55 terrorist attempts on our soil since 9/11. If friendly Muslims are looking for someone to blame for being unable to enter the U.S., that is where their finger should point.

Is banning Muslim immigration constitutional? Of course it is. No one has a right, constitutional or otherwise, to immigrate to the United States. In our system of government, immigration rules are the exclusive province of Congress. One of its express powers of action, as set forth in Article I, Section 8, is "To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization."

In Kleindienst v. Mandel (1972), (Mandel was a Marxist ideologue) the Supreme Court affirmed that "the power to exclude aliens is 'inherent in sovereignty, necessary for maintaining normal international relations and defending the country against foreign encroachments and dangers – a power to be exercised exclusively by the political branches of government' . . . .The Court without exception has sustained Congress' 'plenary power to make rules for the admission of aliens and to exclude those who possess those characteristics which Congress has forbidden'...[O]ver no conceivable subject is the legislative power of Congress more complete than it is over the admission of aliens'...The power of Congress to exclude aliens altogether from the United States, or to prescribe the terms and conditions upon which they may come to this country, and to have its declared policy in that regard enforced exclusively through executive officers, without judicial intervention, is settled by our previous adjudications." (Emphasis mine.)

Bottom line: Congress can ban Muslim immigration if it wants to. And it should.



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1 posted on 05/03/2013 4:38:41 AM PDT by NYer
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To: verga
h/t to verga for the following information


ISLAM

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

>From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

2 posted on 05/03/2013 4:39:27 AM PDT by NYer (Beware the man of a single book - St. Thomas Aquinas)
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To: NYer

This should have been done in 2001.


3 posted on 05/03/2013 4:39:46 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Amen. The so called “Peaceful Muslim or Moderate Muslim” is one sitting on the fence waiting to see who wins.


4 posted on 05/03/2013 4:42:08 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: NYer

You are singing to choir with me brother.


5 posted on 05/03/2013 4:45:08 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: NYer

And Judaism is a way of life. Let’s get rid of them.
And those darn Catholics and their strange churches. Let’s keep them out.
And that Protestant church doesn’t worship correctly. Don’t let them build another building.

Take your hate elsewhere.


6 posted on 05/03/2013 4:45:10 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: Yorlik803

Yep, and the so called peaceful moslem is the one that can turn into radical moslem in an instant.


7 posted on 05/03/2013 4:45:33 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: b4its2late

Like a ‘Walker” in “Walking Dead”.
don’t turn your back on one....you may get away with it once or even one hundred times. But one day, it will attack you.


8 posted on 05/03/2013 4:48:07 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

True but no one has the courage to implement.


9 posted on 05/03/2013 4:48:27 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: NYer

That would be one of those laws that King O’Bama would refuse to recognize or enforce.


10 posted on 05/03/2013 4:50:04 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: RadiationRomeo

you’ve been under the sun lamp too long ...


11 posted on 05/03/2013 4:51:07 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: NYer
Of course, the majority of Muslim immigrants do not want to kill us, but they are not the Muslims we have to worry about. The problem is we have no way of distinguishing the Muslims we do have to worry about from the ones we don't. And we can't watch them all.

And we shouldn't have to apologize, because they haven't policed their own, and show no inclination to do so.

What a great article. Spot on.

Another reason to do what the author is saying is that wars are fought on tactical, strategic, and psychological battlefields. The all important psychological is being ignored. We must do something in which the damage accrues to all Muslims, yes, even the bystanders. If you are a Muslim, and you're not actively and vocally opposing the jihadis in your midst, you're an abettor, and consequences should accrue to you.

12 posted on 05/03/2013 4:51:44 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: RadiationRomeo

13 posted on 05/03/2013 5:00:49 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: RadiationRomeo; NYer

I so hope you forgot the sarc tag. If you are that naïve about what Islam teaches I would suggest you study up.


14 posted on 05/03/2013 5:01:24 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: wayoverontheright

Nobody in power is gonna do a thing.

Those of us who understand will be the TARGETS of the “authorities”.

It will end as a nasty, bloody, house-to-house, neighborhood-to-neighborhood bloodbath. We will most likely win—but at a HUGE cost.

Thanks, You PC bastards.


15 posted on 05/03/2013 5:05:54 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: NYer

16 posted on 05/03/2013 5:06:43 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: NYer; All

I find it hard to believe that Amnesty Liberals like John McCain....who want to give Mexican Drug Cartel and Mexican gangbangers Amnesty if they “renounce” their membership....is going to support blocking immigration from Islamic Terrorist states.

And, the Islamics will go to court and sue for discrimination if Hispanic illegal aliens get Amnesty... while Islamics are denied entry.

Seal the borders and deport ALL Illegal Aliens and Islamics from Islamic Terrorist states. No Rubio-Obama Amnesty is needed


17 posted on 05/03/2013 5:07:04 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Charles Martel
this is my plan for getting along with islam


18 posted on 05/03/2013 5:07:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I agree. NOW bulldoze every Mosque and deport all the evil followers of Islam. READ about Dr. Bill Warner at www.politicalislam.com - that will open your eyes about ISLAM.


19 posted on 05/03/2013 5:11:30 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Flintlock

I do my part, I screen all job applicants to see if they have any Muslim sympathy, if they do I will find some other reason to NOT hire them.

We can all do our small share, it DOES have an effect.

Its not going to be any presidential order, the FBI will never hunt them down, NOBODY in any higher office wants to be targeted, so this nasty job falls upon our shoulders, in a hundred million different ways we can send a daily message.

Don’t hire Muslims.

Don’t rent to Muslims.

Don’t offer any services to Muslims.

Don’t allow yourself to be governed by ANY type of Muslim.


20 posted on 05/03/2013 5:12:17 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors.)
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To: NYer

Moslems, and Congress itself, are the ONLY ones
immune from Death Panels and ObamaCARE.

That is because the US Congress has declared
Islam the SPECIAL US RELIGION because they are enthralled
at its violence and slavery (and they love it).


21 posted on 05/03/2013 5:13:12 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: RadiationRomeo

I never realized that Catholics, Protestants and Jews shared the convert or die ideology of Islam....


22 posted on 05/03/2013 5:15:23 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Gingrich or bust! (5/7/12, I guess it's bust.))
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To: NYer

23 posted on 05/03/2013 5:21:20 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

He won’t get any argument from me. Not only should we stop allowing them in this country we should start removing the ones we have.


24 posted on 05/03/2013 5:27:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: NYer

Our freedom of religion is being used against us. Use it or lose it FRiends.

The Sharia-zealots will never COEXIST - they are deceived, and removing the scales from their eyes requires Eternal Vigilance.

If not by Americans, then who?


25 posted on 05/03/2013 5:30:53 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: NYer

YES!


26 posted on 05/03/2013 5:33:21 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: NYer
Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.
 
 
Yep, and the parasites perched upon its steps will never COEXIST.
 


"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;
 
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 that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "
 
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
 
 

27 posted on 05/03/2013 5:34:56 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Venturer

I hear ya.


28 posted on 05/03/2013 5:37:44 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: NYer

I don’t invite people into my house who adhere to a religion that teaches death to infidels.


29 posted on 05/03/2013 5:41:38 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: NYer

Jihad rolls...islam advances...totalitarians unite...

http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2007/10/terrifying-brilliance-of-islamic.html

HOORAY Bryan Fischer!

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.

Jihad rolls...islam advances...totalitarians unite...

Adios Ameri


30 posted on 05/03/2013 5:44:42 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

there’s such a thing as being so broad minded one’s brains fall out... and the obama administration is very broad minded...


31 posted on 05/03/2013 5:45:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: NYer

32 posted on 05/03/2013 5:47:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NYer

This is what George “Dubya” Bush should have done immediately after the 9/11 attacks.

Instead he did the opposite.

He increased muslim immigration and set the government off on a tangent, pandering to Islamists, fawning over Saudi Wahhabists, and pushing the non-sensical notion that Islam is the “Religion Of Peace”.


33 posted on 05/03/2013 5:49:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: NYer
....three friends of jihad bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were arrested for helping coverup the jihadist bombings (amazing that these "innocent" youngsters knew to grab vaseline b/c it was a bomb component). The arrests followed assurances from numerous officials that the Tsarnaev brothers "acted alone"....

Pretty soon they'll start whining about building a mosque close to the Boston Marathon finish line b/c Islam is all about "triumphalism"---thus the plans to build a mosque near 9/11.

And you can bet they'll get lotsa help from Boston Mayor Menino, Secy of State Kerry, and Gov Deval Patrick (who obstructed govt dissemination of the Tsarnaev's welfare $$haul). Read on.

BOSTON MAYOR MENINO (hands down, the dumbest mayor in the US)

"Just call me Mayor Stupid."

WAIT FOR IT---yet another stupid remark from Menino, and I quote.....the Boston bomber brothers "acted alone" says Menino.

STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES Boston Mayor Menino (he was the stupid-sounding one at the presser held after the marathon bombings----in the wheelchair---injured in auto accident) should be rigorously scrutinized ---- possibly charged with aiding and abetting terror against Americans. Menino handed Islamics a $2 million piece of land for $170,000 to build the Boston Mosque.

MENINO'S MOSQUE
The Phoenix | November 24, 2008 | David S. Bernstein / FR Posted by Prospero

EDITED/EXCERPT Most Boston locals concede that getting anything of substance accomplished in Boston is a Herculean task. Residents have all but embraced the principle of civic inaction with a perverse kind of local pride. In the end, "who you know" is probably more important than what you are trying to do.

STRONGARM MAYOR And there is no doubt that little is accomplished without the approval and support of the mayor, Thomas M. Menino.

So it is with the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center (ISBCC) near the intersection of Tremont Street and Martin Luther King Boulevard. Better known as the Roxbury mosque, the ISBCC has been in the works for more than 20 years. A few weeks ago it finally opened its doors for prayer — five years late, millions over budget, and still far from complete.

While the story of the building of the Roxbury mosque may not be worthy of a Hollywood epic, it does contain the stuff of a good television drama: (with Mayor Menino aiding and abetting) community intrigue, religious conflict, media controversy, foreign money, suspicions of extremist ties......and once-cocksure public officials, who (like Menino and then-Sen Kerry who once gave Islamics serial BJ's) have since retreated into a zone of silence.

Bombers worshipped at Islamic Society of Boston's mosque.---built w/ strongarm Menino's govt authority.

Kerry's "credentials," presented to Ohaha when the Secy of State job became available. .

Islamic jihadist motivation that drove the Boston massacre is a non-starter in the WH.


34 posted on 05/03/2013 5:50:08 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: NYer
Bottom line: Congress can ban Muslim immigration if it wants to. And it should.

But it won't.

35 posted on 05/03/2013 5:50:17 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: My hearts in London - Everett
I never realized that Catholics, Protestants and Jews shared the convert or die ideology of Islam....

Not for five or six hundred years. Does that mean Islam may drop it by 2614?

36 posted on 05/03/2013 5:52:05 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: NYer
The power of Congress to exclude aliens altogether from the United States, or to prescribe the terms and conditions upon which they may come to this country, and to have its declared policy in that regard enforced exclusively through executive officers, without judicial intervention, is settled by our previous adjudications.

Which is a totally true and comprehensive statement....BUT

This is where everyone - government, law enforcement, individuals..even die hard Constitutionalists trip over their own feet!

You cannot Constitutionally ban someone because of their religion, PERIOD! The Constitution protects religion, so you cannot use it for a Constitutional basis of rejection.

The only true method to use while staying true to the Constitution is to ban immigration from those other nations that have over a certain percentage claiming muslim/islam AS their religion.

As a nation, the United States can only legislate against other nations. Its the way the Constitutional was written and certain immutable, absolute Laws were understood by the Founders.

No matter how abhorrent WE believe someone else's religion to be, it IS their religion, and their inherent natural Right to believe in it just as EVERY individual has that Right.

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This slippery slope of any governments supposed authority to legislate against abstract ideas is exactly what is destroying us, IMHO. When one has been around long enough to notice the never-ending succession of War(s) on the abstract roll by, the pattern becomes obvious.

The War against Proverty gave us the redistribution of wealth. The War on Drugs gave us a plethora of laws against personal freedom, privacy and general Liberty. The War on terror now has granny being searched in her private parts while bombing are being carried out by people who were here even after their own home country warned us against them!

[Hel-LO! Is there even anybody IN Washington, D.C. anymore?]

37 posted on 05/03/2013 5:53:27 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Please do not mistake my devotion to fairness as permission to be used as a doormat)
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To: NYer

Moslems only swear allieence to the Uhmmah (Nation of Islam) - there are are no other borders or counrties to them...so Taking an oath to defend the US Constitution is meaningless to Moslems...same for the Oath of a US Citizen or pledging allience to the US Flag...means nothing to them...


38 posted on 05/03/2013 6:02:43 AM PDT by BCW (OIF - a book by a combat veteran - http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: NYer
Somebody has to be the first to say it

You're VERY late to the party, Bub !

39 posted on 05/03/2013 6:04:59 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: NYer

“It’s time, for the sake of the security of the United States of America, to immediately suspend Muslim immigration, to preclude Muslims from service in our military and to stop the building of mosques.”

Amen. I can’t believe someone is publicly stating the obvious.

How many of our 535 congress critters will acknowledge this undeniable truth?


40 posted on 05/03/2013 6:06:18 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Charles Martel
In a pac-man analogy,, the crescent eats Peace first and the Cross last standing. This is more than a coincidence? n/s
41 posted on 05/03/2013 6:07:03 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kuffir!)
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To: Spartan302
+1
42 posted on 05/03/2013 6:07:16 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: NYer

43 posted on 05/03/2013 6:32:51 AM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist.............one more time.............)
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To: NYer

I don’t have a problem with any of that, while we’re at it get the UN out of the US and send them no more money. No aid other than humanitasrian in emergency sitituations to muslim countries and drill our own oil and stop our dependence on muslim countries.


44 posted on 05/03/2013 6:37:37 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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It's time, for the sake of the security of the United States of America, to immediately suspend Muslim immigration, to preclude Muslims from service in our military and to stop the building of mosques.

It's also time to search every mosque already here.

Tagline change.......

45 posted on 05/03/2013 6:39:45 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: RadiationRomeo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0l_4udm-A4


46 posted on 05/03/2013 6:43:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MamaTexan

While your argument is well-stated, it’s also flawed in one key area:

‘Freedom of Religion’ does not apply to those faiths whose tenets allow them to harm others as part of their beliefs (i.e. human sacrifices, and in most cases, animal sacrifices).

Islam directly states in both the Koran and in many Hadith the fact that non-believers are to be killed or enslaved.

Any person with a shred of intelligence should be able to see that the religion of Islam is detrimental to a civilized, free society. It has NO place in the United States of America. Other countries can make up their own minds about it, but our Constitution cannot be construed to give protection to the wickedness of Islam. All it takes is someone with the balls (and the financial backing) to take it to task. And for the people of the nation to speak out against it.

Unfortunately, I don’t believe either of those ideas can or will happen.


47 posted on 05/03/2013 6:44:50 AM PDT by Swashbuckler99
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Coming soon to America

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=wq_lhlIn1e0


48 posted on 05/03/2013 6:53:47 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: NYer

marking for later


49 posted on 05/03/2013 7:09:11 AM PDT by MissTed ( Private Tagline - Do Not Read!)
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To: Swashbuckler99
‘Freedom of Religion’ does not apply to those faiths whose tenets allow them to harm others as part of their beliefs (i.e. human sacrifices, and in most cases, animal sacrifices).

Actually, it applies just the same.

Do not mistake my statement on Freedom of Religion to guarantee adherents to muslim/islam to immigrate in order to practice the barbaric aspects of their religion HERE.

All we can do for the ones already here who want to be Johnny Jihad is to exercise our Right to self defense and swiftly send him to a place where he can learn the error of his ways.

Washington said it best;

The bosom of America is open to receive not only the Opulent and respectable Stranger, but the oppressed and persecuted of all Nations and Religions; whom we shall welcome to a participation of all our rights and privileges, if by decency and propriety of conduct they appear to merit the enjoyment.
George Washington , Address to the Members of the Volunteer Association of Ireland, December 2, 1783

By their conduct, nations with primarily muslim/islam populations have no business being allowed to immigrate to this country, IMHO.

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Any person with a shred of intelligence should be able to see that the religion of Islam is detrimental to a civilized, free society.

Which I agree with, but that really wasn't my argument.

50 posted on 05/03/2013 7:11:46 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Please do not mistake my devotion to fairness as permission to be used as a doormat)
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