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Is the Hard Left at War With the American Idea?
Townhall.com ^ | May 3, 2013 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 05/03/2013 7:53:44 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

bfl


21 posted on 05/03/2013 8:29:49 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Norm Lenhart
The supposed hard right is at war with America as well. Considering many in it can’t ‘moderate’ to leftist positions on immigration, guns, abortion and homosexuality fast enough... THAT is our biggest problem.

I'm hoping your comment was sarcasm. You can't be suggesting that the right SHOULD moderate, when the left has been moving the goalposts farther and farther away from the Constitution and Founding for the past 60 years. We have about reached the breaking point. Fact is, we have been in a civil war for decades. I only wish more Republicans would join the right side.

22 posted on 05/03/2013 8:30:53 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Albion Wilde

23 posted on 05/03/2013 8:35:08 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Albion Wilde

You misinterpreted me completely. I am saying that the Right is becoming the left and is largely there already (at least the pols are) And that THAT is the problem.

We need to remember that principles are not the problem nor is purity as many psuedocons barf out lately.

I am saying that the Right HAD it right and we need to get back to that, NOT keep shifting left one little piece at a time.


24 posted on 05/03/2013 8:36:28 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Kaslin

They are moving toward their goal of communism.


25 posted on 05/03/2013 8:37:16 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

The bad news is you are right. The worse news is Many will help them get it. The good news is history always shows the result of what happens to Communists.

Unfortunately people have to learn the hard way and it will not be pretty. Aside from a relative handful of Americans, the rest seem to want it.


26 posted on 05/03/2013 8:41:16 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: freekitty

Indeed it’s at the 50% mark now.


27 posted on 05/03/2013 8:57:51 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Kaslin
Is the Hard Left at War With the American Idea?

Do bears...

But I ask you: What nation has ever survived, much less thrived, when it lost its national identity?

As the French resistance group Génération Identitaire puts it, "A people can recover from an economic crisis or a war but not from the replacement of its native population. Without French, there's no more France."

28 posted on 05/03/2013 8:59:02 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: Dead Corpse
He’s 30+ years late to the party.

David Limbaugh? I hardly think so. He's talking to those who are late to the party.

29 posted on 05/03/2013 8:59:27 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kaslin
At the risk of sounding like a teenager...DUH!!!!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

30 posted on 05/03/2013 9:30:17 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! www.7161.com/streamer.cfm?dt_track_id=21356)
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To: Kaslin
Thanks for posting.

Our illiteracy about America's founding principles, brought on by decades of deliberate "erasing" of those principles and ideas from the nation's textbooks and public discourse, have prepared us for this moment in the battle between the ideas of liberty and the counterfeit ideas which seem to prevail.

The following has been posted in earlier times, but seems to relate to this thread's question:

Excerpt from a series entitled, "Lessons on Liberty," by a Co-Editor of "Our Ageless Constitution" & "Rediscovering the Ideas of Liberty." The "Lesson" contrasts the Founders' Ideas of Liberty" to be taught to rising generations, with the Counterfeit Ideas being promoted in the so-called "public schools" of America for decades.

IDEAS OF LIBERTY:

(from America’s Founders and Presidents)

“The God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.” (Jefferson - 1774)

“Statesmen may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone which can establish the principles upon which Freedom can securely stand.” (John Adams - 1775)

“The Sacred Rights of Mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the Hand of the Divinity itself, and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.” (Alexander Hamilton)

“Without God, there could be no American form of government, nor an American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first and the most basic expression of Americanism. Thus the founding fathers saw it, and thus, with God’s help, it will continue to be.” (Dwight Eisenhower)

“The same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe, the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.” (John F. Kennedy - 1961 Inaugural)

“…it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly implore His protection and favor….”(George Washington)

“Now the virtue which had been infused into the Constitution…and was to give it…the stability and duration to which it was destined, was no other than…those abstract principles…proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence—namely, the self-evident truths of the…unalienable rights of man…the…sovereignty of the people, always subordinate to a rule of right and wrong, and always responsible to the Supreme Ruler of the universe for the rightful exercise of that sovereign…power.” (John Quincy Adams, on the occasion of The Jubilee of the Constitution - 1839)

"Today, across our nation, we see consequences of decades of gross neglect and outright censorship of the Founders’ ideas from textbooks and from our public discourse. We have allowed counterfeit ideas to dominate the public square, and the Founders’ principles have been crowded out. Unwittingly, many teachers and other unknowing officials have participated in the agenda of an unelected mind-controlling elite whose tyrannical actions have robbed generations of Americans from reading or studying the ideas that made America free. Like termites, they have eroded our foundations as effectively as if they had burned the books. Yet, not once have they been willing to call it by its rightful name—censorship. Once, in America, stifling ideas about the Creator and Creator-endowed liberty was considered unthinkable. . . .

"The ideas of liberty must be passed on from generation to generation if liberty is to survive. These ideas, when they are allowed to be examined freely, will prevail, because their appeal is to reason and to the love for liberty that is deep in the human heart. John Adams warned: “The people of America now have the best opportunity and the greatest trust in their hands, that Providence ever committed to so small a number…if they betray their trust, their guilt will merit even greater punishment than other nations have suffered, and the indignation of Heaven.”

COUNTERFEIT IDEAS:

(from some of those whose views have dominated national educational policy)

“The idea of God is the keystone of a perverted society. The true root of liberty, equality and culture is atheism.” (Karl Marx)

Our thinking is enlightened “in the degree in which we cease to depend upon belief in the supernatural.” (John Dewey, father of ‘progressive education’ and 1st President of American Humanist Society)

“…democracy is a human faith and movement, unencumbered by supernatural preconceptions.” (John Childs, a protégé of John Dewey at Columbia)

“…the majority of our youth still hold the values of their parents, and if we do not alter this pattern, if we do not resocialize ourselves to accept change, our society may decay.” (John Goodlad, 1971 Report to President, Schooling for the Future)

“As in 1933, humanists still believe that traditional theism, especially a faith in the prayer-hearing God, who is assumed to love and care for persons, to hear and understand their prayers, and be able to do something about them, is an unproved and outmoded faith.” (Humanist Manifesto II, 1973)

“…the most important factor moving us toward a secular society has been the educational factor. Our schools may not teach Johnny to read properly, but the fact that Johnny is in school until he is sixteen tends to lead toward elimination of religious superstition.” (Paul Blanshard, The Humanist, March-April, 1976)

“It [the Nat’l. Education Association’s publication list] includes the delegitimizing of all authority save that of the state, the degradation of traditional morality and the encouragement of citizens in general and children in particular to despise the rules and customs that make their society a functional democracy. The NEA is drifting into exceedingly dangerous waters, and probably carrying more than a few teachers and pupils with it.” (Chester E. Finn, Jr., Ass’t. Sec. Of Education & Prof. Of Education & Public Policy, Vanderbilt Univ., 1982)

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“Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines which conflict with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence…let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountains whose waters spring close to the blood of the Revolution.” (Abraham Lincoln)


31 posted on 05/03/2013 12:38:20 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

Thanks for another great reply


32 posted on 05/03/2013 12:55:22 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Olog-hai

>>>The hard left is at war with the entire civilized world and has been since the 1840s.<<<

Yep


33 posted on 05/03/2013 1:14:48 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: Kaslin
Good essay, David, but take a tip: The Other Side doesn't care about America, they care about Socialism. America is just an obstacle.
34 posted on 05/03/2013 4:50:41 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin

The “hard Left” is doing what it has always done. The difference is that Liberals, Democrats, moderates, mainstream Republicans, and the apolitical are now opposed to America’s founding ideals as well - in the interest of political expediency.


35 posted on 05/04/2013 7:49:46 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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