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Air Force Officer Told to Remove Bible from Desk
Townhall.com ^ | May 3, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 05/03/2013 9:02:34 AM PDT by Kaslin

An Air Force spokesperson said personnel are not allowed to proselytize but are free to express their personal religious beliefs so long as it “does not make others uncomfortable.” But a critic pointed out an Air Force officer was told to remove a Bible that was on his desk.

“When on duty or in an official capacity, Air Force members are free to express their personal religious beliefs as long as it does not make others uncomfortable,” Lt. Col. Laurel Tingley said in a statement to Fox News. “Proselytizing (inducing someone to convert to one’s faith) goes over that line.”

Tingley said Air Force leaders “must avoid the actual or apparent use of their position to promote their personal religious beliefs to their subordinates or to extend preferential treatment for any religion.”

That statement has caused alarm among a number of religious liberty groups – including the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty.

“What does ‘As long as it does not make others uncomfortable’ mean,” executive director Ron Crews asked Fox News.

He said last year an Air Force officer was told he could no longer keep a Bible on his desk because it “may” appear that he was condoning a particular religion.

“Air Force officers must be allowed to live out their faith in a way that is consistent with their faith,” Crews said. “If the Bible is important, then an Air Force officer should be able to have one on his desk.”

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) also took issue with the Air Force spokesperson’s use of the word ‘uncomfortable.’

“If that is the standard, then Christianity will be over because there will always be somebody who is uncomfortable no matter what someone’s belief is when it comes to Judeo-Christian beliefs,” he told Fox News. “It appears it is getting more and more difficult to be a Christian and serve in the military.”

Gohmert said it’s a different U.S. military under President Obama.

“Under President Obama’s military you are no longer allowed to share your faith,” he said – noting that the policy is putting Christians in a tough position. “Do you follow President Obama or do you follow God and the teachings of Jesus?”

“That’s pretty tough when your commander in chief puts you on the horn for that dilemma,” he added.

Fox News asked for a clarification on the Air Force policy after the Dept. of Defense backtracked on whether or not they allow religious proselytizing and whether military personnel could be at-risk for court-martialing if they share their faith.

On Monday, the Dept. of Defense released a statement noting that religious proselytization is not permitted within the department.

But earlier today, the Pentagon released a new statement noting “service members can share their faith (evangelize), but must not force unwanted, intrusive attempts to convert others of any faith or no faith to one’s beliefs (proselytization).”

While religious groups are pleased with the Dept. of Defense clarification – they are troubled by the Air Force position on religion.

Daniel Blomberg, with the Becket Fund, told Fox News he was glad to see the Dept. of Defense issue a clarification, but expressed alarm at the Air Force statement.

“The Air Force spokesman’s statement sounds like the government can ban servicemen and women from talking to one another about their faith,” he said. “And that couldn’t be more wrong. The Air Force must follow the Department of Defense’s example to immediately correct its statement to avoid chilling Airmen and women’s religious liberty.”

Blomberg said the Air Force policy is “unconstitutional and wrong.”

“Our brave fighting men and women should not be reduced to whispering fearfully about their faith by their own government,” he said.

Crews said mandating an Air Force officer not extend preferential treatment from one religion is absurd.

“If an Air Force officer is a Muslim, I would expect that officer to say prayers, attend services and not go to a Catholic mass,” he said. “That is extending preferential treatment, and rightly so.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 666; airforce; antichrist; bhodod; bible; christians; foxnews; ltcollaureltingley; replouiegohmert; spiritofantichrist; usaf
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1 posted on 05/03/2013 9:02:34 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I would be unconfortable with muslim prayer rugs and them sticking their butt in the air 5 times a day

are those banned too?


2 posted on 05/03/2013 9:03:43 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Kaslin

Judgement is coming!! ......


3 posted on 05/03/2013 9:04:16 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Kaslin

If it was a koran they would have told him to keep it there. God will not be mocked!


4 posted on 05/03/2013 9:07:09 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Kaslin

5 posted on 05/03/2013 9:08:12 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: mardi59

Sounds like time to submit the ol’ retirement papers. Before he faces court martial.


6 posted on 05/03/2013 9:09:19 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: Kaslin
Can't make the homos uncomfortable, but this is perfectly fine:

DADT Disgusting behavior

7 posted on 05/03/2013 9:09:44 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: mardi59

A view of our peaceful Muslim friends who we helped free from persecution from Colonel Gaddafi. This is obviously their way of saying thanks.

WW II - British Military Cemetery in Libya .

Every time a joke and or cartoon is made about the Koran, the whole world turns upside down...!! and we are all called racists!!!!!!!!
However they appear to do whatever they like and no one says anything...and the majority of people remain SILENT.

See this video while it’s available and before it is removed !!!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/RtgbvotqVFE?rel=0


8 posted on 05/03/2013 9:10:33 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin

I’m guessing Christian tattoos will be outlawed.


9 posted on 05/03/2013 9:10:35 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Kaslin

Lt. Col. Laurel Tingley, eh?


10 posted on 05/03/2013 9:12:06 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Kaslin

The absolute worst thing about all this is that when our guys start getting wounded and killed in the next war—not to speak of the steady death rate still in Afghanistan—chaplains will not be permitted to console them or give them last rights.

When that little kid was murdered by the Boston bombers, the Boston Gestapo Police prevented a nearby Priest from approaching and giving him last rites. And, as it happens, the kid was a church-going Catholic.

Mustn’t let the chaplains near wounded or dying troops—not unless they are Muzzies—lest they offend a dying atheist or an obamanoid officer.

Coming soon to the next battlefield.


11 posted on 05/03/2013 9:12:58 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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12 posted on 05/03/2013 9:14:00 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Kaslin

Install a godless gay military and when Obama tells them to use live rounds on American citizens, they will.


13 posted on 05/03/2013 9:15:18 AM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Don Corleone

They get away with this thanks to the muslim in the WH. Everyone needs to see that video.

Just let us try to step into a mosque and we would be killed, but these savages can desecrate a cemetery and get away with it. My blood is boiling!


14 posted on 05/03/2013 9:16:44 AM PDT by mardi59 (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!!!)
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To: Kaslin
So, I guess the poem High Flight will no longer be read at Air Force funerals or published in Air Force obituaries?
15 posted on 05/03/2013 9:17:58 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Kaslin
"Good Luck! And let us all beseech the blessings of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking."

-- Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, June 5, 1944

Today, one suspects he'd be relieved of command.

16 posted on 05/03/2013 9:24:55 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

“Almighty and most merciful Father, we humbly beseech Thee, of Thy great goodness, to restrain these immoderate rains with which we have had to contend. Grant us fair weather for Battle. Graciously hearken to us as soldiers who call upon Thee that, armed with Thy power, we may advance from victory to victory, and crush the oppression and wickedness of our enemies and establish Thy justice among men and nations.”

I bet today Patton couldn’t have gotten that prayer to be read.


17 posted on 05/03/2013 9:26:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mr. K

***I would be unconfortable with muslim prayer rugs and them sticking their butt in the air 5 times a day***

NOW I know why the homos want in the military! “Achmet, can you squeel like a pig?”


18 posted on 05/03/2013 9:26:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
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To: Kaslin
All of this discussion about screwing with the 1st amendment protected rights of Christians is all well and good but what I want to know is this;

Does this new edict apply to Muslims? Will a Muslim officer be told to remove a Koran from his desk? Will Muslims be told to tone it down should they engage in proselytizing?

For some reason, I seriously doubt it.

19 posted on 05/03/2013 9:26:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe those who are uncomfortable with the Bible should be paid with something other than greenbacks since they still say in bold letters, “In God We Trust”!


20 posted on 05/03/2013 9:27:34 AM PDT by Parmy
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