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Female DNA on Boston Bomb NOT from Tsarnaev Widow (Has Female Saudi been ruled out yet?)
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Posted on 05/03/2013 1:18:37 PM PDT by RummyChick

Female DNA on Boston Bomb NOT from Tsarnaev Widow (Has hospitalized Female Saudi been ruled out yet?) By Shoebat Foundation on May 3, 2013 in Blog, General

Ok, so neither the fingerprints nor the female DNA found on one of the Boston marathon bombs belong to Katherine Russell-Tsarnaev, the wife of Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

With this news, we’d like to ask one simple question: Has the female Saudi national who was injured in the blast been ruled out as a suspect? Has her DNA been tested?

There were two Saudi nationals hospitalized after the bombings – Abdulrahman Ali Al-Harbi and a female doctor named Nura Khalid Saleh al-Ajjaji.

It’s already been reported that Al-Harbi received a 212 3B terrorist designation, so what of al-Ajjaji? Does she know Al-Harbi? If so, how well?

Here’s the CBS report on Katherine Tsarnaev being ruled out as a source of the DNA / fingerprints:


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boston; femalebombers; muslimwomen; tsarnaev

1 posted on 05/03/2013 1:18:37 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

So, was this a bomb at the blast site, or one found in their home?


2 posted on 05/03/2013 1:21:11 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: RummyChick

It could be from one of the Tsarnaev boys. Nothing surprises me when you’re dealing with Muzzies.


3 posted on 05/03/2013 1:22:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

LOLOLOL...great one.


4 posted on 05/03/2013 1:22:41 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

It could even have been a store clerk where they bought the cookers.


5 posted on 05/03/2013 1:23:34 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: gleeaikin

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57582026/boston-bombing-probe-what-female-dna-may-mean-in-investigation/

” Investigators have identified female DNA on a fragment of one of the bombs used in Boston. It’s not clear what that means — the DNA could have come from an injured spectator, or perhaps from a clerk who sold the materials used in the bombs, according to law enforcement sources. But, there’s also a chance, it could lead the FBI to a female accomplice. “


6 posted on 05/03/2013 1:23:49 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Dollars to doughnuts the DNA is from a Chinese lady working at the pressure cooker factory in China.


7 posted on 05/03/2013 1:25:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RummyChick

For those that keep saying the wife couldn’t have known...well I suppose it is possible.

Honey, what are you doing with those pressure cookers.

And he beats her down for daring to ask him a question

” “What they found in the apartment was black powder and parts, but not the work bench you would need to have to make these bombs. They are still looking for that another place.”


8 posted on 05/03/2013 1:26:05 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
How would you get DNA from the 2 bombs that exploded in the crowds.

..maybe from the pressure cooker and IDE's the islamic terrorists had on them in their stolen cars.

The lid come off the pressure cooker at the shootout, making it a dud?

9 posted on 05/03/2013 1:28:53 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: RummyChick
I don't understand. Anyone seeing photos of the aftermath can see human DNA all over the sidewalk and street. Pieces of the bomb went into the air, some parts passed through many people and all ultimately came to rest on the street, sidewalk, window sills, etc. As parts came to rest in pools of blood, they would have acquired DNA.

So my question is, how is the female DNA on bomb piece(s) significant? Obviously if it is a fingerprint on fragments from each bomb that is significant because no innocent bystander would have handled bomb parts several blocks apart but I didn't know DNA could be obtained from a fingerprint.

10 posted on 05/03/2013 1:29:15 PM PDT by fso301
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To: RummyChick
There were two Saudi nationals hospitalized after the bombings – Abdulrahman Ali Al-Harbi and a female doctor named Nura Khalid Saleh al-Ajjaji.

Two controllers without self-control? I think even CIA training would have had them in Los Angeles. I like to know if Miss Nura was wearing head covering.

11 posted on 05/03/2013 1:31:53 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: RummyChick

There are currently 81 people using the name “Harbi” in either Canada or the USA. Odds are really good one of them is called Mo, or Omar, or Abe ~ and I mean really, really good.


12 posted on 05/03/2013 1:32:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fso301

There is technology to get DNA from fingerprints. I don’t know if it has been developed enough to use.

The fact is that the wife could have bought the pressure cooker but STILL not be an accomplice.

It could be they are thinking someone was injured while testing the device or putting it together.

Maybe this is just thrown out there to see what scatters once it hits the media.


13 posted on 05/03/2013 1:35:39 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Stentor

Anyone know the story on
Nura Khalid Saleh al-Ajjaji

Where does she work? Live?

Right now what you get in a search is that Michelle visited her in the hospital.


14 posted on 05/03/2013 1:38:53 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
Why would you need a workbench to make these bombs? Didn't they have a kitchen? With a counter?

Believe what you want about these bombs, they are actually pretty easy to put together. I was nearly killed by a similar device in a post office. One Mormon in Provo in a dispute with another Mormon over a woman and he built your basic shotgun shell/nail bomb and sent it through the mail. It didn't completely work ~ so here I and others are today ~

The big deal with a pressure cooker is the additional time alloted to the black powder to burn ~ that provides even more pressure ~ and hence, a small firework launcher becomes a fairly powerful bomb.

All of this reminds me of an old friend who used to work for a chemical company manufacturing high explosives on site ~ for mining down in Chile. One day the union told the company to do so and so and the army told the company to do something else. He left on the first plane out! We didn't have the internet in those days, but he said all the materials on bombmaking were all pretty much true ~ but be careful with the fusing.

Remember the way the boys walked in that FBI pastiche of cellphone pictures? They were avoiding exposure to the sensor on the triggering device until they'd set the bombs. They didn't want to get blown up.

This wasn't a suicide bombing job ~ probably a commercial venture ~ which means we don't really know who is behind it yet.

15 posted on 05/03/2013 1:42:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RummyChick
There is technology to get DNA from fingerprints.

Okay. Thanks. I hope they aren't looking for an innocent bystander or first responder that just happened to touch a piece of the bomb.

16 posted on 05/03/2013 1:42:30 PM PDT by fso301
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To: RummyChick

If you just search

Saleh al-Ajjaji

There is a

Mustafa

Who is a lecturer at
Umm Al-Qura University and has been involved in a Yemen company.

Not alot comes up with that name


17 posted on 05/03/2013 1:43:37 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

http://www.forensicdnacenter.com/resources/dna-fingerprint.html

This is from 2007

“In the UK, forensic scientists have been performing DNA typing from fingerprints for several years. This type of analysis is not common in the U.S. and remains in the research and development stages”


18 posted on 05/03/2013 1:47:46 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Here we go....

http://www.mylife.com/c-38464470194

Mohamed Saleh Alhajjaji was born in 1986. Mohamed currently lives in Dearborn, Michigan. Before that, Mohamed lived in Dearborn, MI from 2008 to 2011.

Mohamed Saleh Alhajjaji is related to Aref Al-Harbi, who is 35 years old and lives in Dearborn, MI. Mohamed Saleh Alhajjaji is also related to Saleh Alharbi,


19 posted on 05/03/2013 1:49:41 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Has anyone seen a picture of the Doctor?


20 posted on 05/03/2013 1:58:13 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Stentor

head covering.

There is a woman in one of the aftermath photos wearing one and running


21 posted on 05/03/2013 2:01:25 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Selene

Thanks.


22 posted on 05/03/2013 2:03:48 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: RummyChick

Noura al-Ajaji underwent a third surgery yesterday to repair and beautify the thigh area, just above the knee, treat skin damage caused by shrapnel, and remove fragments. This was the third round of the treatment plan for al-Ajaji; the first phase focused on sterilizing the wounds, and the second focused on healing the gash caused by glass shrapnel. Medical reports issued by the hospital yesterday confirmed the complete integrity of her knee and thigh.”

“Al-Ajaji, who is a master’s student in cosmetic dentistry, was injured by flying glass fragments from the nearby Colby glasses store, which she was nearby during the Boston Marathon bombings, resulting in an 11 centimeter gash in the thigh area.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/19/saudi-news-site-michelle-obama-visited-saudi-national-in-hospital-on-thursday/


23 posted on 05/03/2013 2:05:01 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Cosmetic dentistry????

well..how about

Al-Arabiya reports the severe injury of another Saudi researcher on scholarship at Tufts university, Dr. Noura Al-Ajaji.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/saudis-shudder-over-boston-report/


24 posted on 05/03/2013 2:07:52 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

DR NOURA AL AJAJI

is listed as a Staff Dentist in Saudi Arabia


25 posted on 05/03/2013 2:13:31 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Werent there literally gobs of human DNA all over the blast site? Or was this DNA discovered on UXBs?


26 posted on 05/03/2013 2:15:11 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Stentor

Found it
on the right, yellow in color
http://www.eurasiareview.com/01052013-womans-dna-found-on-one-of-boston-marathon-bombs/


27 posted on 05/03/2013 2:19:48 PM PDT by Selene
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To: RummyChick

The more you dig on this family the deeper the rabbit hole goes

Neighbors to a big crime family

http://www.rferl.org/content/tsarnaev-childhood-family-kyrgyzstan-chechnya-daghestan/24963691.html

We know that Dead Bomber spent time in the North Caucasas


28 posted on 05/03/2013 2:31:08 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Uncle Ruslans former father in law - CIA operative Graham Fuller is accredited with saying this

“The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia.”

Did he say it?
Don’t know yet.


29 posted on 05/03/2013 2:34:47 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“”The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army,” explains a former CIA analyst. “The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter Chinese influence in Central Asia.” In a certain sense, the Cold War is still going on. For years Graham Fuller, former Deputy Director of the National Council on Intelligence at the CIA, has been talking up the “modernizing virtues” of the Islamists, insisting on their anti-Statist concept of the economy. Listening to him, you would almost take the Taleban and their Wahhabi allies for liberals. “Islam, in theory at least, is firmly anchored in the traditions of free trade and private enterprise,” wrote Fuller. “The prophet was a trader, as was his first wife. Islam does not glorify the State’s role in the economy.

Richard Labévière, Dollars for Terror: The United States and Islam, New York: Algora Publishing, 2000, p. 6


30 posted on 05/03/2013 2:37:46 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: muawiyah
The big deal with a pressure cooker is the additional time alloted to the black powder to burn ~ that provides even more pressure ~ and hence, a small firework launcher becomes a fairly powerful bomb.

The effect is actually multiplicative: the pressure build-up actually makes the chemical reaction go faster, which in turn intensifies the pressure build-up. So, it all happens really fast.

31 posted on 05/03/2013 2:53:45 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
Absolutely ~ way back when they'd take an iron ball with a 1/2 inch or so wall, and a hollow interior and load it with black powder. Then they'd insert a plug and fuse arrangement. They'd fire those off and they'd blow up like bombs when they hit the target. just look up 'hollow cannon ball" ~ however, the iron balls weren't as good as the steel containment vessel in an ordinary pressure cooker. Since you only need a few nano seconds more to maintain the pressure, they do fine.

The pressure cooker bombs probably scared the dickens out of the anti-gun geeks. You could see it in their eyes. Feinstein was undoubtedly saying to herself "What can they do with a sewing machine".

32 posted on 05/03/2013 4:34:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RummyChick

When they first detained the 2, now charged, Kazack men they also detained an unnamed female person. Who was eventually sent off in a consular vehicle of an unnamed foreign country. The two were initially detained awhile, released and then redetained several hours later and I’m uncertain whether consular vehicle came the first or the second time. IIRC one of the reports actually mentioned two unnamed females with the Kazacks. If the female DNA is from anyone we’ve heard of to date my money, now that the wife is cleared of it, is on the Kazacks’ female associate(s). Who may or may not still be in the country.


33 posted on 05/03/2013 5:03:15 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: muawiyah

That makes the most sense to me so far. It is probably from some female factory worker.


34 posted on 05/03/2013 7:59:11 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Selene

Wow. Thanks again.


35 posted on 05/04/2013 6:46:41 AM PDT by Stentor
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