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Food Allergies Are Now A Disability Under ADA
the last resistance ^ | 5-3-13 | mark home

Posted on 05/03/2013 6:45:33 PM PDT by TurboZamboni

Lesley University is not nearly so isolated, but it has the same mandatory policy about its student cafeteria. There was a problem however. Several students had Celiac disease. They needed to eat gluten free in order to not get sick.

So naturally they told the college and the college allowed them an exception to the mandatory cafeteria plan, letting them keep the money and use it to buy gluten-free food off campus. Right?

No, the students sued the college to mandate that the college accommodate them. I don’t feel sorry for Lesley because, frankly, I still bear a grudge against all colleges that use this business model so that students are forced to pay for services they don’t want on condition of being a student. (Of course, that was the organization’s choice. I never dreamed of suing over it.) Now it has turned into a big expense because the only way to provide economical food is to be able to buy in bulk and mass produce the meals. That is no longer possible. Lesley University did not even fight for their right to determine what food they will provide. They caved and made the following concessions:

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KEYWORDS: ada; allergy; celiac; disability; foodallergy; wheat
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1 posted on 05/03/2013 6:45:33 PM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni
made the following concessions

beans and rice

2 posted on 05/03/2013 6:53:07 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: TurboZamboni

Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

#17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm


3 posted on 05/03/2013 6:59:31 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: TurboZamboni
let's say you have an enormous state university with 50,000 students, 30,000 of whom are in university dormitories where meals are served.

At 3.5% of the population, folks with adverse reactions to wheat gluten would constitute over 1,000 students!

At that level the conversion to a gluten acceptable meal system would be remarkably inexpensive.

First rule at breakfast, don't cook the potatoes or eggs in the same part of the grill they cook the pancakes. Second rule, for prepared potato products, buy those with a cornmeal separator rather than one that uses wheat flour.

Lunch ~ make gluten free bread available ~ just available ~ sandwiches, etc. can be easily swapped out. Supper ~ cornmeal pasta and brown rice pasta, or rice. Fish ~ buy unbreaded product that can be broiled, grilled, or poached .

There's nothing real expensive here plus you'll save a fortune in toilet paper AND water that no longer needs to be flushed.

Celiacs are usually not all that picky. They don't want to eat what you eat, just give them something to eat. Manys the time all I've found edible in a restaurant with a family gathering was rice. I learned to like rice. Now if we could get those Chinese restaurants to carry butter! BTW, I always check the taco shells. Many of the ones used in commercial establishments stick wheat flour in the mix to stiffen them up for American expectations ~

4 posted on 05/03/2013 7:02:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bigheadfred

BTW, beans and rice are OK but there are these yahoos who think they ought to beef up the flavor with barley, and thicken the bean sauces with wheat flour. Then it’s not beans and rice! oh, Dirty Rice is not just rice ~ everything has to be checked.


5 posted on 05/03/2013 7:05:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TurboZamboni

Oh goodie, I am allergic to strawberries, mango and all sea food, and peppers...does this mean I get to sue restaurants?/S


6 posted on 05/03/2013 7:08:16 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: TurboZamboni

There is a very good Chinese restaurant here in Aiken County, SC that wanted to advertise their gluten free meals. However, their Engrish got in the way and their boast was printed as, “Glutton-free meals.”


7 posted on 05/03/2013 7:08:31 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: TurboZamboni; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; ...

Food Allergy ADA Nanny State PING!


8 posted on 05/03/2013 7:15:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: celtic gal

The captive student meal plans are a problem for folks who cannot eat most of the food that is served. Taking their money or meals even though you understand they’ll need to eat elsewhere is basic THEFT


9 posted on 05/03/2013 7:18:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Seems to me it’s pretty upfront standard legal beagle stuff to not poison your customers. Are you suggesting that someone who is poisoned by someone else should not have legal recourse?


10 posted on 05/03/2013 7:19:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: upchuck

‘engrishu’ ~


11 posted on 05/03/2013 7:20:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I no longer eat out at all. Too risky. I get the standard symptoms PLUS eczema.


12 posted on 05/03/2013 7:24:11 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
I stepped inside a bakery a few weeks back right when they were starting a big batch of bread in the ovens. INSTANT SWOLLEN SINUS ~ which doesn't happen often.

Up until not long ago I had no problem with bread or cake made with red wheat flour. It's low in gluten ~ or it was ~ either my sensitivity increased or they've added more gluten genetically.

13 posted on 05/03/2013 7:29:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The biggest problem I have is not using a different set of pans for the stuff that MIGHT be gluten free ordinarily. And the invariable sauce thickeners. I cook from scratch at home. It’s the only way I’ve been able to completely eliminate my eczema. I took meds for years for that. It’s finally gone. No meds in 2 years.


14 posted on 05/03/2013 7:32:53 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: muawiyah

I dont know what is going on. These allergies never existed when I was a kid. Maybe the liberal food supply chemical and conspiracy theories have some merit. Or they could be hypochondriacs.

Some of the moms who are convinced their kid is allergic to airborne nuts are flat out wrong.


15 posted on 05/03/2013 7:33:49 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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You never heard of celiac in the 1930s because it was believed to be the same illness as cystic fibrosis. With both diseases babies died.

Smart grandmothers upon noticing a baby having trouble with wheat, would switch to rice or oats. Lots of folks survived.

The thing is celiac or gluten intolerance has some defining characteristics and it can be tested for genetically .

Recent advances in breeding wheat with higher protein content have something to do with this. Whereas older cultivars may have had had little of the peptide that causes the problem, now wheat is brimming with those peptides and it has become poisonous to a certain part of the population. This was all accomplished through traditional breeding techniques. We hope they can use frankenood technology to snip out the poison from the genome.

16 posted on 05/03/2013 7:42:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Black Agnes
Friend of mine is just a few years younger and after some minor lower GI surgery (always a clue to this stuff) came up with unexplained eczema.

HIs wife immediately suggested he give up wheat!

He's never had this before so he was worried there's nothing to eat. I reminded him there's rice, oats, tapioca, corn...... a whole world of stuff.

17 posted on 05/03/2013 7:48:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Oh, there’s plenty to eat. Just not much pre processed or eating out food. The gluten free processed stuff is good although spendy. I like the Kinnikinnick(sp) donuts. Those are good. Spendy but good.


18 posted on 05/03/2013 8:00:11 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: TurboZamboni; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; ...
Dont blame Obama for this one.,
Blame GHWB and Bob Dole, its their idea and monstrosity.
19 posted on 05/03/2013 8:07:21 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

I have to agree. If you can’t eat the food, don’t EAT THE FOOD.

How difficult is that?

If the college caf had let me out of the mandatory meal ticket I’d have jumped at the chance.

Instead, these morons are SUING to eat crappy college caf food. What idiots.


20 posted on 05/03/2013 8:08:53 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: muawiyah

One of my niche marketing ideas is to work up a “breads of the world” or “great breads of history” sampler. Corn, wheat, and rice account for 85%-plus of the grain grown in the world today. There are good reasons for this having to do with taste, nutritional value, ease of preparation, etc., but there are many alternatives. I have a friend with celiac disease who is especially proud of her sorghum chocolate cake. Apparently it’s hard to make sorghum taste good, although nutritionally it’s a great food.


21 posted on 05/03/2013 8:11:35 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: muawiyah
3.5% of the population has Celiac disease??? Nonsense! 3.5% are falsely self diagnosing themselves based on what they hear in MSM, maybe. Those with a celiac 'fad' likely well outnumber those truly affected. They claim to follow a gluten free diet, but cheat on it too much for it to help anyone with a true gluten allergy.

The Wiki says only 1/105 have the antibodies amongst blood donors. The blood tests are fairly sensitive, but not as specific. As with other immune mediated diseases not everyone who has the antibodies has clinical disease. Wiki cites 1/400 to 1/2000 for an incidence of worked up and proven cases. The gluten allergy can manifest with GI symptoms including those from secondary malnutrition, or with the extremely itchy skin rash, Dermatitis Herpetiformis. I believe GI problems are the more common and to have both is relatively uncommon.

I'm a Dermatologist and well aware of the latter. Untreated it's as itchy a skin rash as there is; it isn't ignorable. Those affected will keep seeking help until diagnosed and treated properly which likely will require a Dermatologist. Supposedly the upper midwest, where I practice, has the highest incidence, yet less than 1/1400 of my patients have the diagnosis. The rate of DH in the general population must be much smaller. Oddly their skin disease most often is NOT treated with a gluten free diet. Medical therapy with Dapsone is inexpensive, highly effective, fairly safe and miraculously quick to control DH, although it, alas, has no effect on GI disease. Dapsone treatment is usually lifelong. Those few with both GI and skin symptoms need the gluten free diet in addition. The diet works for the skin, but requires a couple years of tight adherence with diet mono-therapy to clear it so most prefer the Dapsone.

22 posted on 05/03/2013 8:21:20 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: Black Agnes

Here’s the problem with these ‘feel good compassionate’ laws that are so popular.

And it addresses your thoughts too.

They are written very vaguely wriien using terms like ‘reasonable’ that puts the power in the hands of the judges and invites endless lawsuits on businesses like this.

But they are popular sounding compassionate.

Like Obama’s use of ‘fair’.

GHWB and Bob Dole.


23 posted on 05/03/2013 8:25:59 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

I dislike the idea of mandatory meal tickets. I completely understand why a small college might, for financial reasons, implement mandatory meal tickets. But from the standpoint of having to pay for something I’d n ever, at this point use, it really isn’t fair.


24 posted on 05/03/2013 8:32:59 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: TurboZamboni

What’s next, being left handed? ADA - turning America into the disability/entitlement rights nation and expecting our private sector businesses to pay for all these rules/rights.


25 posted on 05/03/2013 8:33:53 PM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: Black Agnes
As I recall they only apply if you live in on campus housing which I never did at the colleges I went to,

But this lawsuit is a great reason to get rid of it,

26 posted on 05/03/2013 8:41:24 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: muawiyah

Gluten is NOT a poison. Poisons harm everyone given sufficient doses. The vast majority of folks thrive on gluten. In celiac disease and dermatitis herpetiformis genetically susceptible people’s immune systems malfunction and make antibodies to it that happen to cross react with some of their normal proteins resulting in autoimmune complications. I wouldn’t legally blame the gluten. I’d legally blame their own, confused immune systems. And don’t give up on bread, pizza, etc and all the joys of a normal diet without solid proof, which IMHO for GI only symptoms means a biopsy.


27 posted on 05/03/2013 8:41:36 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Everybody should jump on the SSDI gravy train. I hear it usually takes two tries (”applications”) but everybody eventually gets approved. Anyway, there’s plenty of sleazebag lawyers who know the ropes and can offer assistance. For a percentage. Why let the moocher base of the Democrat party gobble up what’s left of our grandchildren’s future?


28 posted on 05/03/2013 8:43:25 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sickoflibs

The college I went to on campus housing was mandatory for first 3 years. Only seniors got the choice of housing. The meal card was just a ‘cost of living’. I seldom used mine. The food was really gross.


29 posted on 05/03/2013 8:43:56 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: sickoflibs
GHWB and Bob Dole

They went along with ADA, but its main driver was Dungheap Harkin.

30 posted on 05/03/2013 8:44:52 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Did some programming work for an ADA rep that inspected restaurants a while back. I was completely astounded by the pettiness of some of the regulations and the large settlements in lieu of a fine - looked like few businesses would fight them - they collected.


31 posted on 05/03/2013 8:45:08 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: muawiyah

The kind of wheat used most of the time is more like a noxious weed (for everybody, not just sensitive people) than the wholesome grain your grandma used to make bread. Bred and re-bred into a large-headed dwarf wheat to feed the world, it was not tested by any authority to determine what its side-effects could be in humans.

Lord knows, I loves me them wheat products, but I rarely eat the stuff. The results show in weight loss, less hay fever and less arthritis.


32 posted on 05/03/2013 8:45:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Does the Dapsone reduce the oxygen transport capability of the blood? I have been thinking of going on it but I like to run as well and would hate to lose even a single point of VO2max.


33 posted on 05/03/2013 8:45:55 PM PDT by Technocrat (Romney-Ryan 2012 No I'm not changing my Sig)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; muawiyah

Combined with abstinence from dairy, a wheat-free diet has reduced my acne problems as well.


34 posted on 05/03/2013 8:46:36 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Black Agnes

Another thought on ‘reasonable’

Suppost the court rules the college has to offed gluten free meals.

Whose to say what a ‘meal’ is?

The court wont.

So the college offers a cheap gluten free meal that is a joke. Like a slab of Tufu with a garnish on it.

OH, and they make 5 of them a day.


35 posted on 05/03/2013 8:49:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Yeah. These kids are being used. u. s. e. d.

I can’t imagine the foul food that would be provided if you forced the caf to feed you something they really didn’t want to feed you.

*shudder*

And what about the shellfish allergies. And peanut allergies. And other food allergies requiring sufferers to carry around epipens.

Why not just let people provide their own food? Dunno.


36 posted on 05/03/2013 8:51:16 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

In this case I see the college just went along screwing the students.

But I bet they dont care about it. You know young people these days, they voted for Obama twice.


37 posted on 05/03/2013 8:51:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: RicocheT
A lot of people don't understand celiacs at all. Even here some people belittle the people who have it. I was getting sick every week with something new when I was diagnosed. Previous to this I was sick maybe 2 times in 20 years. I ended up crashing my immune system and being told to take a year off work. Prior to this I also thought it was a made up disease.

Till you get it, it may seem like no big deal and it is people just looking for pity. If I had to buy the meal ticket I know I would never use it. To much risk of some one accidentally fluffing flour into the air when making some one elses meal for me to risk it. That is all it takes for me to ache for 2 days and sleep for hours. Nothing like your hands feeling like they are on fire to make you change your habits.

To the guy above who questioned why this was not diagnosed much before has to just just look at my family history. It is a genetic disease and my grandfather died at 42, one uncle at 39 and another at 48. Before I was born quite a bit of my relative where dead. Just because it is not diagnosed does not mean it was not there.

38 posted on 05/03/2013 8:53:44 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: JohnBovenmyer

GHWB and Bob Dole were big on AWDA and took credit for it and Bush signed it.

I rremember GHWB claiming that it was Martha’s mission to get it passed, that old bag.

And Dole is always pushing disability rights stuff.

They didnt just ‘go along’


39 posted on 05/03/2013 8:56:20 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Black Agnes

> cook from scratch at home. It’s the only way I’ve been able to completely eliminate my eczema. I took meds for years for that. It’s finally gone. No meds in 2 years.<

My 23 year old daughter just got diagnosed with food allergies. She had eczema as a toddler, but has recently been breaking out in hives. She’s allergic to peanuts, almonds and to beef, of all things. She is on a regimen of anti-histamines to calm the hives. She’s being careful and hasn’t had a breakout since she found out the causes.


40 posted on 05/03/2013 9:02:08 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Food Allergy ADA Nanny State PING!

If the food allergies are as severe and as varied as my son - it can be and for him was, a life-threatening situation.


41 posted on 05/03/2013 9:14:42 PM PDT by handmade
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To: muawiyah

The captive student meal plans are a problem for folks who cannot eat most of the food that is served. Taking their money or meals even though you understand they’ll need to eat elsewhere is basic THEFT

Or be like my son- school did not permit moms to pack a lunch- he could eat virtually nothing at school- we lived in the country and each day I went in to get him at noon. Take him back after he ate.


42 posted on 05/03/2013 9:16:47 PM PDT by handmade
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To: muawiyah

either my sensitivity increased or they’ve added more gluten genetically.

Or they have added a gluten enhancer or flat out added a different wheat.


43 posted on 05/03/2013 9:19:11 PM PDT by handmade
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To: TurboZamboni

Can I get disability - and a monthly government check funded by sweat equity taken at the point of a gun from people that work - if I’m allergic to the narcissism of the latest “food allergy” craze?

Maybe a handicap parking permit good at anywhere other than Whole Foods?


44 posted on 05/03/2013 9:32:41 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: muawiyah

Never heard of any of this.

In countries where people are really starving and dying of hunger, they would kill you for a nut and gluten filled dairy snack. They would club Michele Obama over the head like a baby seal for a Big Mac.

Airborn stuff?


45 posted on 05/03/2013 9:41:22 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Darnright

I have never heard of a beef allergy.

It is a little unusual to be allergic to peanuts and almonds as they are totally unrelated, but certainly not impossible.One of the problems with food allergies is that you might eat something 100 times with no ill effects. The next time you might react.


46 posted on 05/03/2013 9:42:23 PM PDT by sakic
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To: muawiyah

:)


47 posted on 05/03/2013 10:42:29 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; TurboZamboni; Gilbo_3; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; ...

This is bad yo.

Schools cafeterias nowadays have “peanut butter tables”.

That’s where kids who are allergic sit, right? WRONG. That’s where the kids who bring peanut butter are forced to sit because a minority are allergic. Fascism.

If only being “homophobic” was a recognized “disability”, maybe I could sue to get faggotry off my tv screen.


48 posted on 05/03/2013 11:12:33 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: bigheadfred

Yeah, not that hard to find (and provide) alternatives in a cafeteria.


49 posted on 05/03/2013 11:42:43 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Black Agnes
That school might not have other eating/feeding facilities in reasonable distance ~ but all you have to do is provide a loaf of GF bread, or whole corn tortillas!

Mexicans have an excellent idea about that, but Salvadorans make them thicker and out of whole white corn ~ and with a touch of a few flakes of red pepper ~ exactly what you use with pizza ~ it tastes like bread!

I've even made creamy sausage gravy on toasted salvadoran tortillas ~ now, does that seem too difficult?

50 posted on 05/04/2013 5:17:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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