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Fishermen want humpback whales off endangered list (Hawaii0
Yahoo News ^ | 5/3/2013

Posted on 05/03/2013 10:41:01 PM PDT by llevrok

HONOLULU (AP) -- A group of Hawaii fishermen is asking the federal government to remove northern Pacific humpback whales from the endangered species list, saying the population has steadily grown since the international community banned commercial whaling nearly 50 years ago.

Hawaii Fishermen's Alliance for Conservation and Tradition Inc., a coalition of fishing clubs and groups from across the islands, filed a petition to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration last month.

There are more than 21,000 humpback whales in the North Pacific today, compared with about 1,400 in the mid-1960s. (snip)

The fishermen say they don't want whaling to resume and aren't asking to be allowed to hunt the whales. They're also not trying to make it easier for them to catch fish, as they say the law's protections for the whales don't interfere with fishing.

(Excerpt) Read more at weather.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: whales
Humpback whale delisting petition: http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/species/petitions/north_pacific_humpback_petition_2013.pdf
1 posted on 05/03/2013 10:41:01 PM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok

Since they are probably considered native Americans....their pleas will be heard.

Can’t tell you how many commercial fisherman [on either coast] hate sea otters, belugas and dolphins.


2 posted on 05/03/2013 11:01:36 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: PIF

ping


3 posted on 05/03/2013 11:04:07 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: llevrok
There are more than 21,000 humpback whales in the North Pacific today, compared with about 1,400 in the mid-1960s.

That is quite a considerable increase for a fifty year span.

4 posted on 05/03/2013 11:06:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: llevrok

Obama is going to have the wrong idea when he declares open humpback season.


5 posted on 05/03/2013 11:08:52 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: TigersEye

21,000?.. And those are just the ones we know about. (nyuk nyuk nyuk)


6 posted on 05/03/2013 11:13:59 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: llevrok
What do you mean they wernt endangered?
7 posted on 05/04/2013 12:11:11 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: llevrok

I don’t like the idea of hunting to feed the masses, but I would like to try a nice whale steak some time. I hear the tongue in good.


8 posted on 05/04/2013 1:13:03 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: llevrok

They should be issued tags like alligator hunters are. Problem is the other countries who would abuse removing them and bring them back down to near extinction.


9 posted on 05/04/2013 3:07:04 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: BigCinBigD

Star Trek IV - the best flick in the series. I liked the use of colorful metaphors.


10 posted on 05/04/2013 4:34:41 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: llevrok
The fishermen say they don't want whaling to resume and aren't asking to be allowed to hunt the whales. They're also not trying to make it easier for them to catch fish, as they say the law's protections for the whales don't interfere with fishing.

Then why are they pushing for the change?

When there is no other obvious solution to a conundrum it is a safe bet to follow the money.

Somewhere, someone is ready to make money if the ban on taking whales is removed.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 4:54:29 AM PDT by Iron Munro
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To: llevrok

“The fishermen say they don’t want whaling to resume and aren’t asking to be allowed to hunt the whales. They’re also not trying to make it easier for them to catch fish, as they say the law’s protections for the whales don’t interfere with fishing.”


So why the hell do they want them off the list. If they don’t want whaling to resume and the whales don’t interfere with fishing, it shouldn’t matter to them if they stay on the protected list. I smell a load of BS. First get them off the protected list. Once thats done, they will resume whaling again. It took a long time to pull the whales back from the edge of extinction. Screw the fishermen.


12 posted on 05/04/2013 6:50:16 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: autumnraine

Problem is the other countries who would abuse removing them and bring them back down to near extinction.


Yup. Pull them back from the edge of extinction just to push them to the edge of extinction again. Maybe Japan’s behind this petition.


13 posted on 05/04/2013 6:55:06 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: BigCinBigD

Spock looks like he did too much LDS.


14 posted on 05/04/2013 7:22:49 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: Rebelbase

He was a Mormon?


15 posted on 05/04/2013 7:24:20 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No, he was a Vulcan.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 7:32:36 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: Rebelbase

See post #14.


17 posted on 05/04/2013 7:34:01 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: llevrok

Grey whales are becoming a pest on the Pacific coast due to near overpopulation. They are cleaning out some fisheries and need to come off the list also.

Pray for America to Wake Up


18 posted on 05/04/2013 7:34:30 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: TigersEye

Looks like the humpbacks have been doing some serious humping.


19 posted on 05/04/2013 7:36:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: llevrok

To hell with the fisherman—they can eat lettuce.


20 posted on 05/04/2013 7:40:18 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Iron Munro
Then why are they pushing for the change?

Just because something is endangered once does not mean it should stay on the list through out eternity. More and more animals are being added which give the environmental police more and more jurisdiction.

It is not so bad when you have three species on the list, you can generally avoid where they are with little problem.

When you have 30 on the list it becomes a bit more problematic.

At 300 you might as well hang it up. There is no place left for you.

Species have to come off the list when they are no longer endangered.

When they have reached the status of stable you can allow some harvesting.

When they have become pests you must harvest.

21 posted on 05/04/2013 7:44:28 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

See the movie.


22 posted on 05/04/2013 7:45:58 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: Rebelbase
See the movie.

I did, see post #14.

23 posted on 05/04/2013 7:49:47 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: Rebelbase
Spock looks like he did too much LDS.

He was a Mormon?

No, he was a Vulcan.

A distinction without a difference.

24 posted on 05/04/2013 7:49:59 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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To: bray

Gray whales in the Pacific Northwest are listed as critically endangered, and it’s main food source are benthic crustaceans which live on or close to the sea floor. They do not eat fish.


25 posted on 05/04/2013 8:30:15 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

They eat the organism the fish eat. Their numbers have exploded.

Pray for America to Wake Up


26 posted on 05/04/2013 9:00:40 AM PDT by bray (Surviving to spite Obama)
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To: Iron Munro
Here's the reason:

Fishermen are concerned the Endangered Species Act is being used as a tool to manage the oceans and this will ultimately affect how fishermen are allowed to fish, Fernandez said.

You Say: "When there is no other obvious solution to a conundrum it is a safe bet to follow the money. Somewhere, someone is ready to make money if the ban on taking whales is removed".

Yes, and right now the money is flowing toward Gov't EPA programs. This is a way to help stop that flow and keep the enviro-police budget down.

27 posted on 05/04/2013 12:16:16 PM PDT by what's up
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