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Miami Dolphins stadium renovation bill rejected [NO Taxpayer $ for Billionaire NFL Owner]
Reuters ^ | 5/3/13 | Kevin Gray

Posted on 05/04/2013 4:45:54 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

A proposal by the Miami Dolphins to use taxpayer money to help finance an upgrade of the NFL team's stadium failed on Friday to win broad support among Florida state lawmakers, dealing a potential blow to Miami's bid to host the 2016 Super Bowl.

The Dolphins, owned by real estate tycoon Stephen Ross, lobbied the state legislature for months to back a bill to increase hotel taxes in Miami-Dade County to finance nearly half of a proposed $350 million renovation of the Sun Life Stadium, which is privately owned.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: corporatewelfare; elitism
Kudos to the Florida legislature for saying NO to billionaire NFL owner Stephen Ross.

The Dolphins even held a "job fair" earlier in the week...to entice people into thinking their employment hinged on the team getting into the taxpayers pocket.

The media jumped on the "corporate welfare" bandwagon....hyping the "need" for a billionaire to use the common man's money to pay for the improvements to HIS private property.

I say let Ross tap the resources of his millionaire celebrity friends who have a minority interest in the team...like the pro-Obama Estefans or that girl Fergie from the Black Eye Peas....

1 posted on 05/04/2013 4:45:54 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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2 posted on 05/04/2013 4:48:15 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is the original Joe Robie stadium?

IIRC Robie built that stadium w/o taxpayer money. One of the few, maybe only.


3 posted on 05/04/2013 4:57:47 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: SoFloFreeper

They just went through a deal on a new stadium for Atlanta with the Falcons (Arthur Blank?).....The mayor, Kaseem Reed reached a deal (ha)....some taxpayer dollars and all the directed subcontracting from design to final cleanup before opening he can engineer under the covers for his buddies, I guess.


4 posted on 05/04/2013 5:03:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SoFloFreeper

pay for your own Crap, you big Fluke


5 posted on 05/04/2013 5:07:25 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Bring the Dolphins to Maryland. O’Malley can be bought easily. He can build them a new stadium outside Baltimore with taxpayer dollars. Yes we already have the Ravens, but O’Malley just likes to use taxpayer money.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 5:09:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Vinnie

Miami fans are absolutely angry. They just bought the Marlins an expensive stadium. The team slashed the payroll to nearly the lowest in the league. They built in Little Havana which irritated the majority of their fan base. They did this in1997 as well when they had the world series parade there as well.

Lastly there is nothing wrong with Joe Robbie Stadium aka Su n Life Stadium Aka Landshark Stadium aka Pro Player stadium. It is still a very modern stadium.


7 posted on 05/04/2013 5:10:42 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Vinnie

Yes, he built it w/o welfare.


8 posted on 05/04/2013 5:13:30 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Wow, being a Floridian living in Tampa, I am heartbroken that my hard earned tax dollars will not be spent on a new stadium in Miami for a billionaire NFL owners... /S


9 posted on 05/04/2013 5:18:20 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: Venturer
Bring the Dolphins to Maryland.

I can see it now..."The Maryland Mallards"

LOL


10 posted on 05/04/2013 5:22:51 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: castlegreyskull

I understand the need for improvements, but Ross is worth more than $4 BILLION! If he cannot find funding for his property, then his property deserves to deteriorate.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 5:25:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

The next step is to threaten to move the team unless a new stadium (or these renovations) are completed. There will be massive advertising, people will be paraded on the news to lament how much revenue will be lost if the team moves.

Then next will be the election and the team owner will fund several candidates with big bucks. These folks will win.

After all an exceptional stadium will bring in BILLIONS of dollars, create 10,000 new jobs and ensure the employment of untold millions who rely on the spending of football fans during the 8 games they play at home.

Then in a couple more years the taxpayers will be on the hook for not renovations, but an entirely new stadium built to rival the home of the Dallas Cowboys - no self respecting city can permit another city to have a better stadium.


12 posted on 05/04/2013 5:37:15 AM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: Popman

Make that O’Mallards.


13 posted on 05/04/2013 5:38:35 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: castlegreyskull
They built in Little Havana which irritated the majority of their fan base.

Where? I was born and raised in SW Miami. Can't picture where a stadium could be built.

The whole idea of taxpayer money being used for a private stadium really pisses me off.
The average guy can't afford an afternoon at a game. Yet he helps pay for it?
I was in DC last weekend, took in a couple Nationals games. A couple and 2 kids could spend $200 easily.

14 posted on 05/04/2013 5:41:03 AM PDT by Vinnie
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Make that O’Mallards.

O'Mallards migrate to California, not Maryland. Ask any Dodger fan.
15 posted on 05/04/2013 6:10:03 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (HRC:"Sometimes she looks like a primary schoolgirl and sometimes a pensioner going shopping,"-NKorea)
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To: Vinnie

Marlins Park is on the site of the old Orange Bowl.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 6:28:07 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Orange Bowl is gone? Went to many a game there.
Home field of Miami High Stingarees , U of Miami, Dolphins
Went to games of all three.


17 posted on 05/04/2013 6:35:44 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie
A couple and 2 kids could spend $200 easily.

You can save money by making the kids buy their own beer.

/johnny

18 posted on 05/04/2013 6:38:20 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They all want some one else to pay for their sports toys.

The buzz in Seattle why the NBA voted against the bankrupt Sacramento Kings moving to Seattle is that the SEA owner’s group said they will be building an arena with private money.

The NBA owner’s group (it’s being said) that have teams in likewise poor financial straights, do not want their cities to say “See? See what Seattle did with private money??”


19 posted on 05/04/2013 6:48:51 AM PDT by llevrok (2013: America is in a cold civil war.)
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To: Popman
Wow, being a Floridian living in Tampa....

I dunno. One could make a VERY good case for a new Tampa stadium based on it's "looks" alone.

20 posted on 05/04/2013 6:50:59 AM PDT by llevrok (2013: America is in a cold civil war.)
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So ... when are they moving the the Dolphins to LA? Went thru this with the Bengals when I lived in Cincinnati. Mike Brown (team owner) made it clear to Hamilton County if they didn't build a new stadium for the Bengals he was gone ... a huge ad campaign touted all the advantages of building a new stadium, many exaggerated others completely bogus ... and the local Cincinnati paper the Enquirer endorsed it as well. Bottom line they had the ‘stadium vote’ and it passed. Within a year editorials in the Enquirer were ruing the day they endorsed the stadium deal ... cost over runs being one of the reasons.
21 posted on 05/04/2013 7:03:59 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: llevrok
I dunno. One could make a VERY good case for a new Tampa stadium based on it's "looks" alone.

Raymond James is a great football stadium...how many stadiums have their own pirate ship in the stands that blow off cannon shots when the Bucs score...


22 posted on 05/04/2013 7:04:44 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sports is more social engineering than sport. And Limbaugh wonders why the sports media eunuchs are so PC.


23 posted on 05/04/2013 7:07:17 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Popman

My mistake and apologies. I was thinking if the baseball “stadium” in St Pete. Your football stadium is a gem (went there with my nephew once) !


24 posted on 05/04/2013 7:29:11 AM PDT by llevrok (2013: America is in a cold civil war.)
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To: BluH2o

Not having a team in LA is probably the most profitable thing to ever happen to the NFL. How many cities have stolen hundreds of millions of dollars from their taxpayers to keep their teams from moving to LA? That threat just would not be effective if the option was to move to Portland, Oregon which is the next largest metro area without an NFL team within an easy drive.


25 posted on 05/04/2013 7:30:26 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Who wants to pay for another stadium that's going to be mostly empty like the Marlins stadium....Miami is the worst sports town in the country, the ultimate fair weather fans....and believe me, once LeBron leaves, nobody will go to Heat games.

26 posted on 05/04/2013 7:31:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoFloFreeper
Good for them!

Sports stadiums are economic black holes for an area's economy. The "billions" spent there are dollars that would have been spent in restaurants, malls, cinemas, etc..

And, as far as spurring development, what person in his right mind would invest in a business because the neighboring stadium is used about 8 or maybe 10 days a year. These things make no money for anyone save the team owner.

27 posted on 05/04/2013 7:53:18 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why can’t he take out a loan or sell bonds?


28 posted on 05/04/2013 7:53:36 AM PDT by montag813
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To: llevrok

Tropicana field is a dump and basically take your life in your hand going there...it needs to be blown up and put to rest...

I would support (not pay for) building a new stadium in the right place as long as both counties in the bay area support it with some tax dollars...


29 posted on 05/04/2013 7:54:16 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They should move to OKC. Great football country.


30 posted on 05/04/2013 7:58:09 AM PDT by montag813
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They should move to OKC. Great football country.

Jerrah would never let that happen.

31 posted on 05/04/2013 7:58:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoFloFreeper

God bless the state legislators on this one. They didn’t surrender to the god of football like atlanta did. All it took was the threat of leaving if they falcons didn’t get their way and everyone bent over.


32 posted on 05/04/2013 8:27:21 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So then where are they going to threaten to move to now???

When the Rams leave St Louis they can move there.

The St Louis Dolphins??? or maybe a name change to the St Louis Catfish.


33 posted on 05/04/2013 9:36:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SoFloFreeper
MLB and the Astros held the town hostage about 15 years, and the town blinked. Now look at what we got that masqurades itself as an MLB team.

I hope this is a long term trend to tell professional sports owners that they won't get away with this anymore.

34 posted on 05/04/2013 9:45:41 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Vinnie

They built it ironically at the old Orange Bowl site. Not quite little Havana but extremely close. Anything I hate more is corporate welfare. For a guy like me there is nothing wrong with stadium. There is nothing wrong with the Georgia Dome, but they want to replace these. These team owners get all the rewards of these places.


35 posted on 05/04/2013 1:51:47 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Dolphins are the best sports franchise in Miami. He would have no problem making a lot if he developed the team, which generally sucked since Marino retired. He seems to have started to do with drafting the first 1st round QB since Marino last season.
His timing of this stadium improvement bill seems ill advise since his team wad terrible last season and the what the Marlins pulled. At least he was paying for most of it. One good thing about that stadium, it hosts a lot of trade shows. Even though it is privately funded. So it has done a great job generating business in South Florida.

The NFL threaten about the Superbowl because it poured during Colts /Bears Superbowl and during the Prince halftime show. However, they give a Superbowl to NY/NJ meadowlands outdoor stadium in early Feb 2014. The weather has a better chance of being terrible.


36 posted on 05/04/2013 2:05:35 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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