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The National Rife Association **will** LOSE! Why? Answer: Schools!

Posted on 05/04/2013 9:00:35 AM PDT by wintertime

THE NATIONAL RIFE ASSOCIATION **WILLL** LOSE! They will lose within one generation. Why?

THE NRA WILL LOSE BECAUSE THE NATION'S SOCIALIST-ENTITLEMENT K-12 SCHOOLS ARE BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN THE NRA!

THE NRA FOOLISHLY FOCUSES ON SKIRMISHES, WHILE PROGRESSIVE/MARXISTS ARE WINNING THE WAR IN THE SCHOOLS. The enemies of the Constitution are feasting on the souls that will be our nation's future voters, and the NRA and its members should not be surprised when the moral foundation upholding the Constitution completely collapses.

The NRA will lose because our nation's children are being aggressively taught to fear and hate guns ( and gun owners) in our government's socialist-entitlement and single-payer K-12 schools.

The NRA will lose because our nation's children are having their minds aggressively scrambled by a post-modernist teaching curriculum, classroom discussion, textbook and literature choices.

The NRA will lose because there is a Marxist, feminazi, and homonazi war against boys ( especially white boys) in our nation's socialist-entitlement K-12 schools. We already have far too many hairy Peter Pans living in their moms' basements who are utterly incapable of defending themselves, their families, and our nation.

The NRA will lose because the government's socialist-entitlement K-12 schools have so confused girls that they no longer recognize the source of true safety and happiness for themselves and children ( if they don't kill their kids in the womb.)

The NRA will lose because the anti-bullying campaigns are an evil agenda of propaganda. It's aim is to control future elections.

Yuri Bezmenov called all of the above "demoralization". He was right.

Yes, I am shouting, jumping up and down, and having a fit.

Modern compulsory-use, single-payer, and socialist-entitlement schooling was a progressive idea of the 19th century. Teacher training and curriculum development has always been in the control of progressives ( and , now, Marxists). At best, the socialist-entitlement K-12 schools offered the children lukewarm and generic Protestantism . The progressives/Marxists have always pushed for increasing secularization, and today the government's socialist-entitlement K-12 schools are utterly godless in their worldview.

REFORM OF THE NATION'S SOCIALIST-ENTITLEMENT K-12 SCHOOLS IS IMPOSSIBLE!

Question: When in the history of humankind has it ever been possible to reform a government program that is a single-payer, socialist-entitlement, compulsory-use monopoly cartel?

THE NRA WILL LOSE BECAUSE THE NATION'S SOCIALIST-ENTITLEMENT K-12 SCHOOLS ARE BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN THE NRA!


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1 posted on 05/04/2013 9:00:35 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Most conservatives can’t be bothered to vote in school elections.

I don’t even have kids and I never miss a vote and get to about half the school board meetings.


2 posted on 05/04/2013 9:02:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: wintertime

The sky is falling....

CSN&Y, although probably misdirected here, might be appropriate. DEPROGRAMMING every day. Long, honest talks with your children about what they learn, what lies they are told, and positive reinforcement....


3 posted on 05/04/2013 9:03:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: wintertime

So now the NRA is foolish because they don’t share your obsession?


4 posted on 05/04/2013 9:04:21 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: wintertime

Government schools are the culprit in most of America’s problems.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 9:04:34 AM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: wintertime

Actually I don’t disagree with you.

But...most conservatives don’t seem to grasp that we are clearly going to lose our nation ....not just our gun rights in less than 10 years.

This war was over the day the indoctrination took over for education.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 9:05:22 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: EricT.

Gotta agree with you there.


7 posted on 05/04/2013 9:06:52 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: cripplecreek

Civics ain’t civics anymore. Constitution? Some crap written by a bunch of old white slave owners. Doesn’t even fit with today’s world. For the real truth and justice we must depend on the united nations and live by international laws. That is until sharia takes over and you either comply or die. Sad and disgusting what today’s kids AREN’T being taught. Only indoctrination is acceptable. Love everybody, do whatever you like. I remember it slowly changing in the mid ‘60’s when I was in high school. The angle of the downhill slide gets steeper every year.


8 posted on 05/04/2013 9:09:22 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: wintertime
Actually this has already happened.

Take a look at the real history of Saudi Arabia. They were very focused towards becoming ‘Western’ until some religious fanatics took over Mecca. The deal the government made with them was to allow the fanatics to come into schools for ‘an hour or so’ to preach. This was in the 1970’s.

Today the school system is run my fanatics and each year the system turns out a whole new crop of mini-fanatics. An older Saudi friend watched it all happen (and I might add despairs over it.)

And it IS happening here.

9 posted on 05/04/2013 9:09:40 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: cripplecreek
Voting in school board elections is a waste of time.

Government socialist-entitlement schooling must be abolished. It can **NOT** be reformed.

Government schooling is a socialist-entitlement, single-payer, compulsory-use, GODLESS, monopoly cartel!

Question: When in the history of humankind has it been possible to reform a socialist, single-payer, compulsory-use, GODLESS government monopoly cartel?

10 posted on 05/04/2013 9:12:44 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

The 2A can’t survive democrat majorities (save for an unlikely SCOTUS rescue).

The left owns academia and are brainwashing students to become future dem voters.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 9:13:22 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: wintertime

If they learn that at school, it might be the only thing. I thought CSI and all the popular shows had plenty guns in them. I don’t watch them much, but isn’t that so?


12 posted on 05/04/2013 9:13:25 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: wintertime

Hopefully these Kids still have some common sense Parents!


13 posted on 05/04/2013 9:14:12 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: EBH
You are right.

Conservatives will be shocked when the full collapse happens. Many of them will have been lifelong members of the National Rife Association.

14 posted on 05/04/2013 9:14:19 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Conserev1; EBH; Gaffer
There are more of their kids than ours. Long honest talks and deprogramming will not save this nation. The good will go down with the bad.

Honestly...I believe we are beyond the point where our freedom can be salvaged.

15 posted on 05/04/2013 9:17:14 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: humblegunner
So now the NRA is foolish because they don’t share your obsession?

No, the NRA is foolish because it refuses to get involved in seriously sure-win cases.
An example, from when I was in SD is here, I called the NRA and they unequivocally refused to get involved "because it was a state matter".

16 posted on 05/04/2013 9:17:51 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: wintertime

Yeah I kinda figured all your ranting amounted to doing nothing.

Never mind, I won’t waste any more of your screaming time.


17 posted on 05/04/2013 9:18:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: wintertime; cripplecreek

I agree. Government schools should be abolished. So how do you suggest we go about it?

Until that happens, I will - like Cripplecreek - be at all the school board meetings trying to influence what they do. I will report to the taxpayers what I see happening at the meetings via my newsblog. I will ask the questions the “real newspaper” reporters are to afraid to ask.

You either participate in the system we have and try to make a difference, or you check out and go fishing all the time. I refuse to give up and go Galt just yet.


18 posted on 05/04/2013 9:24:17 AM PDT by abb
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To: wintertime
Very good points. The left is far more intelligent, creative, disciplined, organized and patient than are conservatives. The vision of the left is long as they began the takeover of our schools in the 1930's. They have conquered our churches, our businesses, our media,our science(global warming hoax), most of our large state governments and Federal bureaucracies. We are just a few years away from prison camps for conservatives and Christians.

The conquest by the left has been materially assisted by a degenerating population totally incapable of any form of resistance. We who conquered the British Empire, created a government, managed that government, and conquered a continent now stand idly by while the Third World, managed by another civilization, conquer us.(Maybe an occasional belch and breaking of wind from stomach distress.)

19 posted on 05/04/2013 9:26:21 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: EricT.

bump


20 posted on 05/04/2013 9:27:08 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: wintertime
A Torch With No Flame.
21 posted on 05/04/2013 9:28:34 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: wintertime
Long honest talks and deprogramming will not save this nation.

I've lived a lotta years and had the fortune and misfortune to see a lot of movies, read a lot of books and the like and have learned enough to know that despair, especially that transmitted (intended or otherwise) to our young amounts to certain failure. Certain.

I've been pretty glum here these last few years and I've harbinged disaster with the best. But all the while, I never ever, when I could, not try to find out what lies my grand daughters (or children for that matter) have been told and what the hell they are learning.

I constantly am harping to my daughter to remain vigilant on this. Yes, we may get beaten by Obama, the Muslims, and leeches, but there will be a price to pay. And the dissension won't end. Not if I can help it. That's what all these weapons I've bought for 20 years are for - not for me, but for my heirs when they need them.

22 posted on 05/04/2013 9:31:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: wintertime
Well, I am not going anywhere.

And let me remind you naysayers that we are producing children at a much faster rate than they, so take heart.

23 posted on 05/04/2013 9:32:33 AM PDT by Hero
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To: wintertime

This generation will not pass, without the Tree of Liberty, being watered again.


24 posted on 05/04/2013 9:34:17 AM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: EricT.

Bingo - you got it. Incrementalism is the commies and dictators best friend. They’ve been taking over our educational systems and are controlling most of our media - so it is probably inevitable unless conservatives elect another great communicator like Reagan.


25 posted on 05/04/2013 9:37:16 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: wintertime

Khrushchev, as it turns out, was correct.


26 posted on 05/04/2013 9:42:31 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: wintertime
Its another.."First they came for the....and I wasn't....then they came for the.....etc. etc. etc".

Cuidado America. From silk shirts to chains in one generation or less.

27 posted on 05/04/2013 9:44:08 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Charles Martel

Thank you for the post. Have forwarded to all in my email addy book.


28 posted on 05/04/2013 9:45:03 AM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: Hero
And let me remind you naysayers that we are producing children at a much faster rate than they, so take hear
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I would take heart if I could see real movement on the part of conservatives and Christians to abolish the godless government K-12 indoctrination camps.

Conservatives and Christians are foolish to subject their children to the Marxist poisoning found in our schools, hoping that a few minutes of deprogramming will undo the damage.

The Barna foundation has found that 85% of children from highly active evangelical homes fail to be active in their faith 2 years after graduating from government school. In contrast 95% of homeschoolers will be.

Question:

So?....If the stats are **that** bad for the outcomes of highly **active** families in their faith, why would we believe that the outcomes would be any better for strong defenders of the Second Amendment?

PLEASE! The first step in solving a problem is see what the problem is.

Problem: Government schools are anti-Second Amendment ( as well as being against **many** other Christian and conservative values).

Problem: Government schools can not be reformed because they are fundamentally a socialist and single-payer entitlement that is a government run monopoly cartel.

SOLUTION:

1) IMMEDIATELY **RESCUE** as many children as possible by removing them from these schools.

2) Educate conservatives and Christians on the danger of these schools to the children.

3) Work for the complete shut down of government schooling.

4) Simultaneously work to see that every child in this nation has access to a **PRIVATE** and conservative education.

29 posted on 05/04/2013 9:45:44 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Don Corleone
From silk shirts to chains in one generation or less.

And they are loving every step. "My" belly is full."My"EBT card is full. "I" get free housing and health care, all paid for by the Government. "I" get all thhe dope and sex I desire. All courtsey of Uncle Sam. Life is good!

30 posted on 05/04/2013 9:48:30 AM PDT by sport
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To: EricT.
Government schools are the culprit in most of America’s problems.

When I was in high school 47 years ago, they weren't a problem at all.
Patriotism, work ethic and morality were also taught.

Something very terrible has happened since those years, it's very evident.

To put it bluntly, most universities, high schools, grade schools teach liberal crap and their products show the results of being prepared for life by liberal crap.

We see the results of government influence and political correctness in our schools everyday, this can't continue.

31 posted on 05/04/2013 9:49:16 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: wintertime

The commies are winning in the schools because mommy and daddy don’t give a care enough to care what kiddies are learning in school these days. School is free day care for mommy and daddy. Daddy spends 45 seconds a day TALKING to his kids. Teachers have them for 8 HOURS. Guess who wins. Guess who puts what into kiddies heads. Guess why kiddies turn out to be homosexuals, gay marriage approving, hands stuck out for free stuff, morons?


32 posted on 05/04/2013 9:51:30 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: wintertime

Homeschool your kids.


33 posted on 05/04/2013 9:57:19 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: RetiredArmy
It's taken a hundred years of government gradually progressive K-12 indoctrination but what you posted was the progressive/Marxist goal from the beginning. Goal: Destruction of families and parental influence over children. There are likely hundreds of quotes from 19th and 20th century leaders in education to prove that this was ( indeed!) their goal! .

Solution: The first step is recognizing the problem.

Problem: We have schools that were a progressive idea from the beginning in the mid-1800s to early 1900s. Teacher training and curriculum development has **always** been in the control of the progressive/Marxists. They have **always** been pushing the envelop!

Problem: Socialist programs and government monopolies can NOT be reformed. This means that government schools can not be reformed.

Solution: IMMEDIATELY **rescue** as many children as possible.

Solution: Warn conservatives and Christians of the danger of government socialist-entitlement schooling is to their children and our nation.

Solution: Work to shut down government schooling.

Solution: Work to see that all children in this nation have access to a **PRIVATE** conservative education.

Sadly....It is likely too late. In five to ten years those children who have been taught to fear and hate guns ( and to **HATE** conservatives and their values) will be showing up in the voting stations.

34 posted on 05/04/2013 10:02:37 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: RetiredArmy

Our kids’ teachers have taught them how to shoot, hunt, fish, work, pray, be responsible, and do the hard thing.

We homeschool.

Eldest at West Point, middle going to Drexel after two years at community college and youngest graduates high school in 2 years.

My wife and daughter are writing a book on homeschooling from each of their perspectives...


35 posted on 05/04/2013 10:02:44 AM PDT by Geoffrey
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To: cripplecreek

I give it a 65 - the beat was OK but the lyrics were kinda hard to follow... ;-)


36 posted on 05/04/2013 10:03:02 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: freekitty
Homeschool your kids.
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Yes,....We should be encouraging as many people as possible to rescue their own kids, grandchildren, and nieces and nephews.) It's a start. However it is not enough. Why?

Answer: When our nation sinks into tyranny, the homeschoolers will sink with the nation.

So?...What's the problem with government schooling? Answer: The future voters who attend them will destroy the nation and that has serious consequences for all homeschoolers and all who live in this nation.

37 posted on 05/04/2013 10:06:29 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
There are more and more people homeschooling their children every year. I know many and where I am, there are bible schools and classical schools and home schooling classes springing up left and right.

Your action plan makes sense and I'm watching it happen every day.

How does the Barna foundation define "evangelical"?

38 posted on 05/04/2013 10:07:46 AM PDT by Hero
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To: humblegunner; verga; SoftballMominVA; shag377; cripplecreek

Here we go with another non-news meaningless rant - that belongs in bloggers/personal.


39 posted on 05/04/2013 10:09:50 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Geoffrey

I encourage homeschooling. The outcomes for our family was also outstanding. We must encourage parents to remove their children from the toxic and EVIL government schools. If enough do it, there still might be a chance for freedom in our nation.

But......Please remember. When the nation collapses and the Constitution no longer exists, there will be consequences for my family and yours. In just a few short years ( 5? , 10? 15?) those in the government’s socialist-entitlement and godless schools will be voters and they are being aggressively taught to hate guns and gun owners.


40 posted on 05/04/2013 10:11:19 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Hero
As for the definition of evangelical, you would need to contact the Barna Foundation. Their definition of “active” meant weekly Sunday and mid-week services and activities and fully participation in all youth programs, as well as daily family prayer, bible study, and other religious observances in the home.

So?...If the outcomes were this poor for these children attending government schools, imagine the outcomes for children from less actively religious families. Why would we **foolishly** think outcomes would be better for children from families that support the Second Amendment?

41 posted on 05/04/2013 10:15:57 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: metmom
Another Reason to Homeschool list.

It is annoying having to type out the entire name of this ping list every time I notify you, but there are defenders of the socialist-entitlement K-12 schools who are determined to see pornography in any acronym and will promptly report me to the moderators in an attempt to have me banned from Free Republic.

Wintertime

42 posted on 05/04/2013 10:19:25 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime
THE NATIONAL RIFE ASSOCIATION **WILLL** LOSE! They will lose within one generation. Why?

That is making the big assumption that the US survives for another generation.

43 posted on 05/04/2013 10:20:16 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: umgud
When in danger, or in doubt; run in circles! Scream and shout! -- Lewis Carroll on conservative planning

I have found myself to be a very good Liberal antidote for my kids and grandkids.

44 posted on 05/04/2013 10:21:24 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: The Duke

Well?....It is encouraging to now know that others feel my alarm and see the **urgency**.

Hopefully, God may grant us enough time to turn the nation around.


45 posted on 05/04/2013 10:22:34 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: pabianice

And...Soon, those of our generation will be dead.

Who will carry the flame?


46 posted on 05/04/2013 10:23:39 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: pabianice

This isn’t just about your kids or mine. When the collapse comes and there is no Second Amendment or Constitution, my homeschooled kids will carry the yoke of tyranny along with everyone else’s kid.

In the collapse, everyone will sink together.


47 posted on 05/04/2013 10:25:34 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

They are doing this with EVERYTHING related to traditional America, traditional American values and Judaeo-Christian morality. These FREAKS need to be stopped-NOW.


48 posted on 05/04/2013 10:26:30 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: abb
I agree. Government schools should be abolished. So how do you suggest we go about it?

This is a comprehensive political approach. It lays out the case and then offers the solution set.

49 posted on 05/04/2013 10:26:46 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: wintertime

As I see it now, it won’t be carried. We are becoming a smaller and smaller minority each day. Their indoctrination system the educational system] is doing its job well. All they have to do is wait.


50 posted on 05/04/2013 10:28:49 AM PDT by sport
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