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Personal Remembrances of the Kent State Shootings, 43 Years Later
Slate ^ | 05/04/2013 | David Rosenberg

Posted on 05/04/2013 9:27:17 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen

On May 4, 1970, four Kent State University students were killed and nine injured when members of the Ohio National Guard opened fire during a demonstration protesting the Vietnam War.

In 2010, the site of the Kent State University shootings was placed on the National Register of Historic places by the Department of Interior with support of the Ohio Preservation Office. Carole Barbuto, a communication studies professor at Kent State University who was a junior there in 1970, spoke to Behold about some of the more than 4,000 images (many from student photographers) the university has in its archive related to the events around May 4. Since 2001, Barbuto has taught a course titled “May 4, 1970, and Its Aftermath” and she also led the photo selection process for the May 4 Visitors Center. “It’s a difficult story to tell,” Barbuto said. “It’s a very complex story. There are still many unanswered questions.” Barbuto spoke about her personal and historic knowledge about the famous images, sharing her insight and observations about the killings 43 years later:

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: kentstate
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To: DuncanWaring

Stick it.


41 posted on 05/04/2013 10:33:05 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Who gives a f***?

The media COMPLETELY IGNORED/BLACKED OUT any coverage of the 40th anniversary of Bill Ayers’ bombing of the Pentagon.

Give this a rest already. Dead is dead.


43 posted on 05/04/2013 10:37:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Bump for later reading. My wife is a late 70s Kent State alumnus, been to the campus a number of times. Pretty bucolic when she was there, hard to comprehend all the stuff that went down on that weekend 43 years ago.


44 posted on 05/04/2013 10:42:14 AM PDT by ssaftler (It's Obama's fault)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I know that at the time of the Kent state shooting I hoped that it indicated that the government(which we still respected) had finally learned to deal with "protestors." I had long believed, and still believe, that the troops should read the protestors the "Riot Act" and if the "protestors" refuse to disperse and go home then shoot them down without restraint.


45 posted on 05/04/2013 10:45:47 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: mylife

So, you may have hung out at the Rathskeller and the Big House......(old stompin’ grounds!)


46 posted on 05/04/2013 10:54:46 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: mylife

I don’t know what the Guard was supposed to do. they did exactly what the radicals wanted them to do. they probably didn’t shoot enough of the right people. if they were going to be criticized, maybe they should have made it a massacre. I really don’t know. The tactics the radicals were using are hard to counter in a free society such as ours.


47 posted on 05/04/2013 10:55:22 AM PDT by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: mylife

Hmmmm ... let’s see now ... which am I more impressed by, your eloquence or your scintillating wit?

Thinking....


48 posted on 05/04/2013 10:56:32 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

IMHO, what happened at Kent State was exactly what the communist and Marxist “professors” there wanted to happen.


49 posted on 05/04/2013 11:12:15 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Oderly governing sometimes takes an application of force as George Washington illustarted in the Whiskey Rebellion. Learn your history.

Take your own advice. Washington leading the militias into western PA was more a venture into crony capitalism writ large.

50 posted on 05/04/2013 11:12:15 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: yorkie

Of course.

How are you? I hear you had a car accident some time ago?


51 posted on 05/04/2013 11:15:54 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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To: pepsionice

One can think what one wants to think about the Kent State situation.

However, the bottom line is that after Kent State and Jackson State all, and I repeat, ALL of the mayhem on college campuses stopped, and I repeat, STOPPED!


52 posted on 05/04/2013 11:28:04 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I graduated college in May 1970 & went into the Army. After Vietnam I joined the National Guard.

As Guardsmen we received regular civil disturbance training all through the 1970’s. Must have been a lesson from Kent State.


53 posted on 05/04/2013 11:33:26 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I am surprised that nobody ever notices that "protests" of whatever nature or extent are never really "peaceful" They inevitably become a riot.) (Look at Seattle's recent Commie Day celebration.)

The very nature of protests are to incite violence. When Arab Spring broke out in Cairo, small "How To Protest" booklets were found scattered around detailing burning effigies, burning flags, trespass, throw gas canisters back, etc. Someone very familiar with anti-Vietnam tactics obviously wrote the booklets in nursery school Arabic. Now compare the "naughty kids" in Cairo with the Benghazi attack.

54 posted on 05/04/2013 11:33:41 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: mylife; Kid Shelleen; pepsionice

I lived in Akron at the time...Bath Twp, and was 16 miles away. I was home sick with the flu that day. And I listened to the news as it all unfolded.

A fellow I worked with was a member of the Ohio National Guard and shared some first hand experiences. Businesses in Downtown Kent were under mob attack by the ‘students’. Guardsmen in the street were attacked, not just with rocks, but also with clubs and pipe-wrenches. At least a couple of them were kneecapped. This was a day or so before May 4.

A number of the agitators were not students, but came into Kent to stir up trouble. The girl pictured at the time putting a flower in the barrel of a guardsman’s rifle was not a Kent student, and did not live in Kent.

I have always believed that Gov Rhoads did the right thing by sending in the Guard.

That being said, it is long past time for the Gov’s of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona & California to use their respective National Guard’s to protect the southern border.


55 posted on 05/04/2013 11:41:23 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

All of those Gov would love to do just that, but the Fed will not allow it.

Much has changed regarding the Tenth amendment.

And in reality, it is the Federal Governments job to protect the borders.
It should not be incumbent on the border states.
What is really wrong is that the Fed thwarts the border states from doing the job the Fed is charged with.


56 posted on 05/04/2013 11:46:08 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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To: BerryDingle
When Arab Spring broke out in Cairo, small "How To Protest" booklets were found scattered around detailing burning effigies, burning flags, trespass, throw gas canisters back, etc. Someone very familiar with anti-Vietnam tactics obviously wrote the booklets in nursery school Arabic. Now compare the "naughty kids" in Cairo with the Benghazi attack.

And guess where they came from -- the American Left. Among others, Code Pink, William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn were in Egypt for the months and weeks preceding the Tahrir Square demonstrations -- conducting "classes" on "How to run a demonstration".

During the Wisconsin recall elections, several "Organizing for Obama" personnel claimed they would create demonstrations and disruption "just like we did in Egypt".

The American Left is the nearest thing to a Communist Internationale existent today...

57 posted on 05/04/2013 12:05:23 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

Remember Sowande Ajumoke Omokund? Supreme Solar Allah?
Congresswoman Gwen Moores spawn?

He was taught. He was indoctrinated by the left.


58 posted on 05/04/2013 12:10:35 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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To: All

Isn’t it odd that now we are the protesters and the liberals are the establishment?

If there is one lesson to be learned from all this, it is that we must infiltrate them from the inside to effect change.

Saul Alinsky has that exactly right.
He may be left of the Devil but he is right.

Going toe to toe in the street is not beneficial to us.
Its hard on the people and it is hard on the furniture.


59 posted on 05/04/2013 12:19:45 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

You lock and load only after the rioters have fired the first shots for the record; your body armor should protect you from their less than adequate armament, at least at that time.
A much more effective methodology is to give the commands “COMPANY; FIX BAYONETS, PRESENT, AT THE SLOW TIME, FORWARD MARCH”. Trust me this works, it’s the method we used at San Onofre in 1970. The mob will start to move as soon as you make contact (the ones in the front don’t seem to like their position), other than a few relatively minor injuries (accidental I assure you) you can break their will in about 15 minutes.
Nothing motivates an idiot more than being at the sharp end of the spear. It’s beautiful to behold.


60 posted on 05/04/2013 12:22:48 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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