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Chinese Scientists Create Killer Hybrid Flu Virus In Lab
zen-haven.com ^ | May 4, 2013 by | Soren Dreier

Posted on 05/04/2013 5:23:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Senior scientists have criticised the “appalling irresponsibility” of researchers in China who have deliberately created new strains of influenza virus in a veterinary laboratory.

They warned there is a danger that the new viral strains created by mixing bird-flu virus with human influenza could escape from the laboratory to cause a global pandemic killing millions of people.

Lord May of Oxford, a former government chief scientist and past president of the Royal Society, denounced the study published today in the journal Science as doing nothing to further the understanding and prevention of flu pandemics.

“They claim they are doing this to help develop vaccines and such like. In fact the real reason is that they are driven by blind ambition with no common sense whatsoever,” Lord May told The Independent.

“The record of containment in labs like this is not reassuring. They are taking it upon themselves to create human-to-human transmission of very dangerous viruses. It’s appallingly irresponsible,” he said.

The controversial study into viral mixing was carried out by a team led by Professor Hualan Chen, director of China’s National Avian Influenza Reference Laboratory at Harbin Veterinary Research Institute.

Professor Chen and her colleagues deliberately mixed the H5N1 bird-flu virus, which is highly lethal but not easily transmitted between people, with a 2009 strain of H1N1 flu virus, which is very infectious to humans.

When flu viruses come together by infecting the same cell they can swap genetic material and produce “hybrids” through the re-assortment of genes. The researchers were trying to emulate what happens in nature when animals such as pigs are co-infected with two different strains of virus, Professor Chen said.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: birdflu; chinesescientists; h1n1; h5n1; killervirus
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1 posted on 05/04/2013 5:23:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I’ve seen this movie before....and it doesn’t end well.


2 posted on 05/04/2013 5:30:30 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: BenLurkin

Their objective is to create the virus, then an antidote, inoculate themselves, then...


3 posted on 05/04/2013 5:35:39 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: tet68

4 posted on 05/04/2013 5:37:53 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: jeffc

It is weapons research.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 5:39:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: tet68

From Stephen Kings novel ‘The Stand’

“Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.”

We (human race) are nothing but talking monkeys playing with matches.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 5:40:14 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: jeffc
Their objective is to create the virus, then an antidote, inoculate themselves, then...

Of course it is. Then they'll weaponize it and use it as the ultimate behind-close-doors bargaining chip. Or just release it on an airline flight or two and then sit back and watch the stupid tourists spread it.

7 posted on 05/04/2013 5:41:10 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: BenLurkin

actually, it wouldn’t be millions with today’s highly mobile population.

it’d be hundreds of millions if not millions.

very rural societies would be exposed the least from outside contagion... like the majority of china


8 posted on 05/04/2013 5:43:30 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: BenLurkin

As If we are working on charcoal starter fluid in all those military bio labs. For the last 50 years.


9 posted on 05/04/2013 5:45:18 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: BenLurkin

They learned how to do it here.


10 posted on 05/04/2013 5:46:55 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“Or just release it on an airline flight or two and then sit back and watch the stupid tourists spread it.”

Or it gets out of the lab, then it’s all over the world. I think that means “shelter in place” for us.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 5:47:25 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: chessplayer; null and void

Bring out your....


12 posted on 05/04/2013 5:48:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin
Sounds like we might be playing the MAD game again, ehh ?

Maybe we should get busy on some neutron virii . . .

13 posted on 05/04/2013 5:49:20 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: BenLurkin

If the subhuman, murderous muslim filth get their hands on some vials of this stuff, things are going to go very badly for some US cities.


14 posted on 05/04/2013 5:49:36 PM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; All; Kartographer

Check out this Chinese lab making a human to human killer flu virus. I say “shelter in place” for a long period of time. Got water/food/security/way to cook/way to stay warm/have light? Got at least N95 masks? Got a lock on the doors?


15 posted on 05/04/2013 5:51:41 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: BenLurkin

They did it to find out what happens when pigs are infected with 2 different forms of the virus. I already know the answer. IT DIES!

First hint of a pandemic I’m locking my doors, and staying home for a few months.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 5:57:57 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028
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To: BenLurkin

Next step: Designer Plagues


17 posted on 05/04/2013 5:58:39 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: tet68

Or the series....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH6us7DLaRk


18 posted on 05/04/2013 6:07:05 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: BenLurkin

The doomsday weapon of the future will be bio—not only because of the news above this thread but because of the possibilities in comparison with chemical and nuclear.


19 posted on 05/04/2013 6:10:02 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: FreedomStar3028
“First hint of a pandemic I’m locking my doors, and staying home for a few months.”

This is a good time to think of your preps and what you might need to add to them, including medicines and that means a certain antibiotic and Tamiflu. Do you have a doctor friend who would write a script for Tamiflu if it looked like this type of flu was headed our way? That med would be gone in a flash. I'd also get Cipro which you can get at some places without a prescription, as in fish meds.

20 posted on 05/04/2013 6:12:26 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: tet68

Kirrir Hybrid Fru Virus ?


21 posted on 05/04/2013 6:14:23 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: carriage_hill
If the subhuman, murderous muslim filth get their hands on some vials of this stuff, things are going to go very badly for some US cities.

Release in in any of the US cities and unless there's a quarantine & lockdown of international travel right quick it becomes a global epidemic -- it'll be what they were hyping the bird-flu epidemic to be, or worse, considering this is apparently designed to go after humans.

22 posted on 05/04/2013 6:17:38 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: familyop
The doomsday weapon of the future will be bio—not only because of the news above this thread but because of the possibilities in comparison with chemical and nuclear.

Biological warfare has a long history of being dubious for those using it.

23 posted on 05/04/2013 6:19:02 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

“Biological warfare has a long history of being dubious for those using it.”

But the North Korea idiot wouldn’t even think of unintended consequences. If he managed to get a vial of that from his Chinese friends, he’d mail it to the United States. Wait, do they have mail in N. Korea? I guess he’d have to send someone here with it.


24 posted on 05/04/2013 6:22:54 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: BenLurkin

The Chinese government is short-sighted, greedy, corrupt, and not very bright. That’s why that nation is the most environmentally toxic on Earth. Their soil is so fouled by industrial pollutants that most of the vegetables and livestock they grow are considered unfit for human consumption by Western standards. Add to that the fact that they have billions of disgruntled, dirt-poor peasants, most of whom are males because of their disastrous one-child policy. The people there are beginning to realize that they are the victims of self-genocide. The Chinese government created this virus to eliminate their own surplus population, because their iron grip on the population is starting to slip away. They intend to hide away in their secure bunkers until it plays itself out, as plagues always do. But it won’t work.
It’ll be just like Edgar Allen Poe’s classic work “The Masque Of The Red Death”. The elites will be among the first to get got. Watch and see.


25 posted on 05/04/2013 6:24:57 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: chessplayer

That is actually a well known poem penned long before Steven King....
But very true today


26 posted on 05/04/2013 6:25:21 PM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: Mom MD

William Butler Yeats. “the second coming”. Prophetic.....


27 posted on 05/04/2013 6:27:32 PM PDT by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: BenLurkin

Andromeda Strain (1971)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066769/?ref_=sr_2


28 posted on 05/04/2013 6:31:50 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
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To: chessplayer

King was quoting Yeats.

The Second Coming

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born.


29 posted on 05/04/2013 6:38:19 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: BenLurkin

> It is weapons research.

Of course it is. They should try mixing some Sarin gas into the concoction while they’re at it. It won’t hurt a bit... : )


30 posted on 05/04/2013 6:42:48 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jespasinthru

The Chinese government is short-sighted, greedy, corrupt, and not very bright. That’s why that nation is the most environmentally toxic on Earth. Their soil is so fouled by industrial pollutants that most of the vegetables and livestock they grow are considered unfit for human consumption by Western standards.


To some in here that makes China a paradise. No environmental regulations and businesses are free to pour whatever crap they want into the air, water, and soil.


31 posted on 05/04/2013 6:46:22 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: FreedomStar3028

In 1917 during the flu pandemic, Gunnison Colorado completely shut down all access to the town for 2 weeks. They didn’t have a single case of the flu but nearby towns lost a lot of people.


32 posted on 05/04/2013 6:52:24 PM PDT by albionin
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To: chessplayer

Yeah, all us conservatives want to breath bad air, drink contaminated water, and eat polluted food.

Kindly go back to DU...


33 posted on 05/04/2013 6:55:23 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: OneWingedShark

That’s true, but bio has the most potential for causing the most casualties. Imagine something staff-like but carried like a flu. Scary, eh?


34 posted on 05/04/2013 7:41:59 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: BenLurkin

What could possibly go wrong?


35 posted on 05/04/2013 7:42:18 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: OneWingedShark

Er, staph-like, even.


36 posted on 05/04/2013 7:42:35 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: chessplayer; jespasinthru

On pollution in China...

1. China shouldn’t be manufacturing for so many other nation.

2. The damage from pollution is usually exaggerated. Not all soil in China is so toxic.

3. Environmental laws were and are selectively enforced in the USA (e.g., pollution drained into US lakes and rivers already outlawed but unenforced against big, government-linked corporates). There was much corruption and still is (e.g., American-based manufacturers of products on foreign soil pushing for environmentalist regs against manufacturing in the USA.


37 posted on 05/04/2013 7:49:04 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"...release it on an airline flight or two and then sit back and watch the stupid tourists spread it."

WHY are the tourists stupid???

38 posted on 05/04/2013 10:13:46 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (Life is short. Smile while you still have teeth. :-))
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General Mao’s Chicken.


39 posted on 05/04/2013 10:15:22 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: greeneyes; yorkiemom

Pinging you to this thread - it’s bad news. Are you ready to lock your door and stay inside until a pandemic is over and millions are dead over the whole world?


40 posted on 05/05/2013 12:22:10 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella

Nobody could ever be ready for that - mentally anyway. How long did it take before the plague wore itself out? How long would a person have to hibernate?

You know I have to be able to get out into my garden. Not just for food, but also for attitude and mental health reasons.


41 posted on 05/05/2013 12:36:14 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

All that crap with the dog food and toothpaste etc contamination - now this. We shouldn’t be importing crap like this from places like China.

One of these days we’ll probably all be poisoned from some crap that our enemies or even just greedy USA companies do. Deliberate or accidental doesn’t matter. Dead is dead.


42 posted on 05/05/2013 12:39:30 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: BenLurkin

The UN and the WHO are elated. Finally a way to world domination


43 posted on 05/05/2013 4:07:50 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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To: greeneyes

“You know I have to be able to get out into my garden. Not just for food, but also for attitude and mental health reasons.”

You could do that since you are not in the city with people living jammed close to you. You must stay away from people.


44 posted on 05/05/2013 7:54:38 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: jackibutterfly
WHY are the tourists stupid?

For going to China.

45 posted on 05/05/2013 11:43:15 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: Marcella

Makes me wish I will be in the mountains when this happens. With my supply of fish antibiotics! It is one of the few things I only have one supply of and is on the list of important things to bring when bugging out.

As for holing up here, I’m good as long as two 55 gallon water barrels will be enough. I have yet to go to the store and get those Ozarka water jugs – am waiting for my tendonitis et. al. to subside a bit more before re-inflaming it all ;(


46 posted on 05/06/2013 9:39:48 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: greeneyes; Marcella
One of these days we’ll probably all be poisoned from some crap that our enemies or even just greedy USA companies do. Deliberate or accidental doesn’t matter. Dead is dead.

I think we probably already are, in some way, with all the preservatives and chemicals and hormones in food now. But, you're right that they could at any time that something like melamine (that poisoned the cats and dogs) into our food. Apparently if that pass through any USDA inspection, our quality control of imports is sadly lacking.
47 posted on 05/06/2013 9:52:55 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: greeneyes; Marcella

Forgot to mention that I am starting to make my own cat food. One of my Persians has food allergies (allergic to all the grain they put in commercial cat food that cats do not need!). She had a bout of digestive problems this last month and the vet said to put her on all wet food, which she hates in the commercial grain-free options. So I looked up making cat food, bought the supplements, and made some. Luckily, she is the one that loves raw meat so switching her to the raw food diet was easy ;) Her sister and brother are resistant though!

It’s actually cheaper to make your own food rather than buy the expensive supposedly good-quality food. (Even Natural Balance grain-free foods had melamine in it years ago).


48 posted on 05/06/2013 10:06:16 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: tet68
“I’ve seen this movie before....and it doesn’t end well.”

Outbreak and Contagion are the movies commonly referenced but a more realistic situation in a pandemic, at least from the long term view is “After Armageddon”

49 posted on 05/06/2013 10:25:54 AM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: yorkiemom

our quality control of imports is sadly lacking
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So is our quality control of some domestic products. That’s why I am going back to growing and canning most of my own stuff.


50 posted on 05/06/2013 10:14:46 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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