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New South African farmers team up with predecessors
Reuters ^ | April 19, 2013 | Olivia Kumwenda

Posted on 05/04/2013 8:35:52 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

MALELANE, South Africa, April 19 (Reuters) - Reclaiming land seized during white minority rule was a dream come true for black families in the South African farming town of Malelane.

But the community had no farming experience, equipment, money or market access. In search of a plan for its 3,300 hectares (8,150 acres) of sugarcane land, it agreed a joint venture with the whites who had owned the land before.

Land reform is a sensitive issue in South Africa, where some politicians are demanding a forced redistribution of white-owned farms along the lines of neighbouring Zimbabwe and twice as many white farmers are murdered as other South Africans.

The post-apartheid African National Congress (ANC) government's policy is to buy land seized by whites, if they want to sell, and return it to blacks who claim it.

But it has fallen far short of its targets, and many of those who do get land back find it hard to compete in a highly developed sector; some have sold the land back to the previous white owners after struggling to make it productive.

(Excerpt) Read more at vision.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; socialism; southafrica; zimbabwe

1 posted on 05/04/2013 8:35:52 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Near future in South Africa, the last White farmer.

2 posted on 05/04/2013 8:42:22 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Zimbabwe used to be a very productive agricultural country. They used to feed themselves and export many products to other countries.

With their policy of seizing land and evicting/killing white farmers, Zimbabwe is a basket case, unable to feed their own people in spite of having such productive farmland.

I know we are supposed to be liberal and politically correct. But, I will violate such standards, and say that it’s obvious that these black “farmers” don’t know what the hell they are doing, when given this “reclaimed” farmland.


3 posted on 05/04/2013 8:46:58 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego; MinorityRepublican; Clive

There used to be folks who posted diaries like this one(http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1068876/posts), from a very, very stupid liberal woman who welcomed and championed the downfall of Rhodesia then lived to “weep” for what they had sown, but even then she refuses to accept responsibility for her and her husbands demented philosophical positions.

South Africa should know better, they all have their “When-We” stories of immigrants from Zimbabwe living in S.A. now.


4 posted on 05/04/2013 8:56:43 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: MinorityRepublican

You would think they would learn to start a tractor or put a seed in the ground before murdering or evicting the man who had that knowledge. There is no cure for stupid.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 9:01:40 PM PDT by formosa
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To: MinorityRepublican

My mother’s family were share croppers, but not in South Africa.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 9:08:17 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: formosa

“There is no cure for stupid.”

Africa Wins Again.

Tribalism fits poorly with collectivism, but Africans keep on trying.

Let ‘em starve.


7 posted on 05/04/2013 9:13:00 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: GladesGuru

Dumped on top of tribalism is communism, both in Zimbabwe (Rhodesia) under Marxist murderer Mugabe and under the ANC/CPSA in South Africa. Most of the leaders of the African National Congress were members of the Soviet-directed Communist Party of South Africa (SACP), once led by KGB operatives Joe Slovo and his wife Ruth Furst, among others (Johnny Makitini appeared to be a Soviet operative, Jacob Zuma, one named Oliver, and many others).

What they have done is to illegally seize land for “redistribution” of the wealth (where have we heard that recently?), seize companies, murder white farmers and heads of large corporations, and put in totally incompetent but ideologically psychopathic communists to ruin things.

South Africa exists today almost completely on the existing mining operations, plus some fishing and some agriculture (but the latter is being slowly eroded by the murders of white farm owners and the failure to put in educated black marxists or black farmers in general who are educated/experienced enough to run a complex operation today).

We saw the destruction of the farming systems in Zimbabwe and now the marxists in South Africa are copying that program but at a slower pace.

Tribalism has largely been squashed (on the surface), so the Masai, some Zulu, and other large ethnic tribes are coming under the red hand of the SACP/ANC. Whether they will fall completely under red control is a key question which could determine the future faith of South Africa.

Right now the future of South Africa looks grim unless a new, pro-freedom party of whites and blacks arises to confront and destroy the ANC/SACP.

Whatever happens in the future, it isn’t going to be pretty, or bloodless.


8 posted on 05/04/2013 10:26:10 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Don't bad mouth Zimbabwe. No country has produced as many quadrillionaires and even quintillionaires as Zimbabwe. Even children can be multi-trillionaires there.
9 posted on 05/04/2013 10:27:12 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Stupidity will be painful as it should. Let’em starve.


10 posted on 05/04/2013 10:55:01 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Don't bad mouth Zimbabwe. No country has produced as many quadrillionaires and even quintillionaires as Zimbabwe. Even children can be multi-trillionaires there.

I've never been there and I have 500 Trillion dollars! (Bought on Ebay for $5 postage included.)

11 posted on 05/04/2013 11:17:42 PM PDT by OSHA (One despises and wants to destroy the United States, the other is a dead terrorist.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Africa is lost to the darkness. The White farmers should emigrate here if they can.

Oh wait, wrong color.

Buy a ticket to Mexico City, come across the Rio Grande and "live in the shadows" for a while, collect welfare, send your kids to school for free.

Just check the "african American" box on the forms and stay out of eric holder's sight.

12 posted on 05/04/2013 11:51:17 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: MinorityRepublican

they still see Zimbabwe as a success story. wow


13 posted on 05/05/2013 12:37:33 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
With their policy of seizing land and evicting/killing white farmers, Zimbabwe is a basket case, unable to feed their own people in spite of having such productive farmland.

Once the bread basket of Africa, Zimbabwe is now the basket case of Africa.

14 posted on 05/05/2013 12:52:59 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Jeff Winston
Hey Bill hows it going..here ya giving retirement seminars to seniors. Do they know your history?  photo bEGKAuSt156_zps50473dd3.jpeg
15 posted on 05/05/2013 12:59:59 AM PDT by ObligedFriend
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To: ObligedFriend

What’s the matter? Did you run out of anything real to say?

Didn’t take very long, did it?


16 posted on 05/05/2013 1:27:35 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: MinorityRepublican

As an American of Afrikaner descent, thanks for posting this.

When South Africa descends into civil war (which will happen very, very soon), it will be a horror.

What a lot of folks DON’T realize is that Nelson Mandela wasn’t fighting for the civil rights of blacks, he was fighting for communism, or more accurately, communism that only benefited the Xhosan tribe, much to the chagrin of the other tribes.

It’s bizarre how it all worked out. The Xhosa tribe only makes up 18% of South Africa’s population.....and yet they have a stranglehold on the entire country.

Feels like that’s been tried in SA before....


17 posted on 05/05/2013 1:28:47 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: ObligedFriend

And thanks for stalking me across threads and across topics. It’s the ultimate compliment, and shows how effectively I shut down your stupid, anti-historical, anti-rule-of-law, Constitution-twisting BS.


18 posted on 05/05/2013 1:29:06 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“Right now the future of South Africa looks grim unless a new, pro-freedom party of whites and blacks arises to confront and destroy the ANC/SACP.”

IMHO, the above will occur sometime after pigs learn to fly.

Africa will “Win Again”.

The ‘Dark People’ of the
Dark Continent” seem determined to revert to the savage primitivism in which they were mired prior to the imposition of European based social structure.

The good news is hunting will improve after the human population collapses from the consequences of African societal choices.

heeh Dark


19 posted on 05/05/2013 4:22:15 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

This makes “Heart of Darkness” look like a training manual.


20 posted on 05/05/2013 4:25:34 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t understand.

If the whites seized the land from the blacks... then couldn’t the current blacks get the former blacks to teach them how to farm the land?

What’s that? The original black owners weren’t farming the land in any productive way?

Then the current black owners have already returned to the original use of the land under its original black owners.

So what’s the problem?

(Possibly coming soon to a nation near you that hates whitey and promotes unqualified persons to positions of authority based solely on skin color in the names of social justice and white privilege.)


21 posted on 05/05/2013 4:29:26 AM PDT by SuzyQueIN
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Did know Mandela wasa Communist...but not the whole details. Thanks

Mandela also is racist/etho-centric too...I see


22 posted on 05/05/2013 4:41:55 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"One of the problems with restitution is that when the people got the land, no one told them that they cannot drive a Mercedes Benz like Mr Du Plessis used to drive when he owned the farm," Chiyoka said.

Magical thinking. Bad communist.

And so they resort to rent-seeking so they can get their Mercedes Benz. Bad, bad communist.

23 posted on 05/05/2013 4:50:26 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: MinorityRepublican

there was little to no Black Africans when the white tribe found South Africa....

the black tribes that were there are in their own country inside of South Africa.

the blacks that stole the white tribes land were usurpers from the north...


24 posted on 05/05/2013 4:51:08 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Interesting. Probably a pipe dream though.

Here is the reality:

http://ajkraad.wix.com/genocide-museum


25 posted on 05/05/2013 5:51:53 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: MinorityRepublican

“buy land seized by whites, if they want to sell”

Nice family you have there white farmer, shame if something happened to them. Now what was the price for your farm again?


26 posted on 05/05/2013 6:32:05 AM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: SuzyQueIN
(Possibly coming soon to a nation near you that hates whitey and promotes unqualified persons to positions of authority based solely on skin color in the names of social justice and white privilege.)


27 posted on 05/05/2013 6:34:50 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: MinorityRepublican

****Reclaiming land seized during white minority rule was a dream come true for black families****

Yes, this is quite a dream since there were NO BLACKS in SA when the Dutch settled there. Only a few bushmen and Hottentots.

Blacks did not start their invasion of SA until Shaka began his push south with his impis.


28 posted on 05/05/2013 8:24:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Mandela and his Xhosan thugs are in for a very, very rude awakening....

Mandela also has ties to radical Islam.

“Mandela went underground and eventually left the country without permission, training in terrorist camps in Algeria and addressing the Pan-African Freedom Movement conference in Addis Ababa in January 1962.”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=759

Now, this isn’t to say that the National Party in SA was anything to cheer for. After all, they were socialists.

A lot can be learned by studying SA. We’re heading down the same path.


29 posted on 05/06/2013 6:59:16 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: SuzyQueIN

South Africa was virtually unpopulated when the Dutch arrived. They didn’t take anything from anyone. The farm land in SA is pretty rough, so most of the tribes stayed away, settling places like Mozambique, Botswana, and Swaziland, where farming is much easier. (The discovery of gold and diamonds in Witwatersrand changed all that.) Now, of course, our leftist media would tell us otherwise, but I learned to tune them out years ago.

:)

PS-—You’re a 1000% right. The US is slowly but surely becoming South Africa. I wrote a column about it in FR.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2920398/posts


30 posted on 05/06/2013 7:12:46 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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