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Apple’s cash is cached
NY Post ^ | 05/05/2013 | JONATHON M. TRUGMAN

Posted on 05/05/2013 12:37:04 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

--snip- To understand how big of a deal this is, you need to understand that Apple, the world’s most profitable technology company, works through a large and complicated array of offshore companies to hold its taxable profits overseas.

By creating subsidiaries in tax havens like Ireland, Luxembourg, the British Virgin Islands and the Netherlands, the company saves billions in taxes.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; britishvirginislands; ireland; luxembourg; netherlands; taxes

1 posted on 05/05/2013 12:37:04 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

All of this is allowed because of the tax laws that Senators write on a weekly basis. What’s the big deal...roughly 70k pages of tax code...written by professional Senators.


2 posted on 05/05/2013 12:39:30 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
we need all 70k so everybody pays their fair share /S
3 posted on 05/05/2013 12:49:37 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: pepsionice
"Roughly 70k pages of tax code...written by professional Senators."

Yep, written on an Apple. . . . . .

4 posted on 05/05/2013 12:50:19 PM PDT by DeaconRed (Call it what it is: Attempt at People Control: NOT GUN CONTROL. Gun control is holding it steady.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Good for Apple.


5 posted on 05/05/2013 12:52:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The author thinks hiding money offshore is a problem, but he doesn’t understand how to solve it. If the United States was the lowest cost place to do business and pay taxes, all that hidden money would come onshore with the click of a mouse button.


6 posted on 05/05/2013 12:55:45 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
Worth repeating!

The author thinks hiding money offshore is a problem, but he doesn’t understand how to solve it. If the United States was the lowest cost place to do business and pay taxes, all that hidden money would come onshore with the click of a mouse button.

7 posted on 05/05/2013 12:58:50 PM PDT by null and void (CA State Moto: "We have no idea right now where they were going or where they were coming from")
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To: Kid Shelleen

Smart company


8 posted on 05/05/2013 1:21:31 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Vince Ferrer

Just like when Reagan greatly reduced capital gains tax rates...suddenly a gusher of “locked up” capital gains was freed to be redeployed into better investments. Leftists will never understand human behavior when it comes to money or yearning for freedom and shunning despots and tyranny.


9 posted on 05/05/2013 1:25:05 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: null and void

any one that can legally get out of paying taxes gets a big high 5 from me....no one on the face of the earth is as greedy as the US government....


10 posted on 05/05/2013 1:33:23 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Kid Shelleen

The less money this pathetic government of ours gets the better!

F U B O !


11 posted on 05/05/2013 1:38:31 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Kid Shelleen
To understand how big of a deal this is, you need to understand that Apple, the world’s most profitable technology company, works through a large and complicated array of offshore companies to hold its taxable profits overseas.

I still don't understand why it is a big deal.
It's legal. It's good business practice to employ favorable tax provisions.

In the larger picture, Apple makes much better use of it's revenue than the government. And that is to the advantage of everyone for them to do so.

12 posted on 05/05/2013 1:49:20 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Kid Shelleen

So stop whining and compete! Those “tax havens” only attract profits because they aren’t as greedy in the taxation of it. Why do you feel entitled to cut yourself as big a chunk of someone else’s pie as you want, then complain when he seeks out better associates? Seems like YOU’RE the problem and trying to blame the victim (or his other friends that DON’T screw him) for it.


13 posted on 05/05/2013 1:50:54 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Good for Apple. If all our corporations had been this intelligent, the Federal government would have been forced to do less and we would have more freedom. Handing your hard-earned profits over to these scoundrels so they can buy votes is worse than flushing them down the toilet.

Pres. Reagan’s advice: “Starve the Beast.”


14 posted on 05/05/2013 1:50:58 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Kid Shelleen.
By creating subsidiaries in tax havens like Ireland, Luxembourg, the British Virgin Islands and the Netherlands, the company saves billions in taxes.
IOW, buy Apple stock -- particularly if you're happy when someone figures out how to stick it to the feds. :')


15 posted on 05/05/2013 1:53:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“and on the 30-year fixed, 3.883 percent”

Anyone buying those bonds is utterly insane.


16 posted on 05/05/2013 2:01:07 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

BTW, what Apple is really doing here is shorting the dollar by borrowing ones they don’t have with the expectation that they’ll be paying back with cheaper ones.

The only real question is what they intend on doing with them in the mean time? It really doesn’t them a whole lot of good to sit on them other than as a passive protection against inflation.


17 posted on 05/05/2013 2:05:17 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SunkenCiv
IOW, buy Apple stock -- particularly if you're happy when someone figures out how to stick it to the feds. :')

One big problem: the per share price of Apple is so high that it's hard for many smaller investors to buy it in the usual amounts of 100 shares. Maybe there is some reason that they let the per share price go so high without a stock split.

Stick it to the feds? Not sure about that. Don't know this for a fact, but my intuitive guess would be that Apple's board of directors (like many big tech companies) is composed of a majority of Democrats.

18 posted on 05/05/2013 3:49:11 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Kid Shelleen

I don’t see what the big deal is. The U.S. government shouldn’t get their hands on money Apple earned overseas, that Apple is reinvesting overseas. On money earned in the U.S., yes, but no elsewhere. Apple is a world-wide company, building infrastructure elsewhere for supporting sales elsewhere. No different than Ford or Coca-Cola building factories in China and Africa to do business there. This is not new, lots of U.S. companies have done this for many years.


19 posted on 05/05/2013 6:54:21 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Kid Shelleen

If Apple sells an iPad in Belgium that was made in China and shipped the Europe, and paid for with Euros, does the US havea right to a penny of that profit?

I cannot understand for a second why it would.


20 posted on 05/05/2013 6:58:32 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: justiceseeker93
One big problem: the per share price of Apple is so high that it's hard for many smaller investors to buy it in the usual amounts of 100 shares. Maybe there is some reason that they let the per share price go so high without a stock split.

There is no problem in buying small lots, even one share, or even fractional shares. It's just more economical to buy larger lots than a single share when you pay a fixed brokerage fee.

21 posted on 05/05/2013 7:11:25 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: catnipman
what they intend on doing with them in the mean time?

They are going to buy back stock.
22 posted on 05/05/2013 7:14:47 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Kid Shelleen; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
Liberals are lusting after Apples cash. . . they want to tax it and are frustrated that Apple has most of it off shore —PING!


Apple tax avoidance Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

23 posted on 05/05/2013 7:17:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Kid Shelleen

“They are going to buy back stock.”

Yes, I can see that now. And paying big dividends too. Because they have NO idea at all how to turn that cash into products with big ROIs. So management has now turned to keeping stockholders happy for a bit longer. So the board, CEO, and execs can keep their jobs just a little bit longer as well. This looks to me like another BIG sign that Steve Jobs WAS Apple, and now that he’s gone, Apple will NEVER be the company it was under Jobs.

After reading Walter Isaacson’s biography of Steve Jobs, it was evident to me that the entire company was essentially a one man show, and that the company was designed SOLELY to implement Steve’s good ideas and to try and check his worst ones. With Steve gone, I think we can expect Apple to turn into Microsoft or HP. It’ll probably take 3 years before that’s evident to its “investors”, because for most of that time they’ll be quite happy with their big dividends and artificial share price increases.


24 posted on 05/05/2013 7:57:57 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

The cheap bast@rds at Apple (make that cheap liberal bast@rds) cannot bring those earnings home to America without paying US taxes on them. Boo hoo hoo. They should pay a decent tax rate or let that stash get moldy and turn to dust, I could care less

Apple makes all its stuff outside of America anyways. No one is stopping those cheap bast@rds from building their own chip plant or assembly plant in China, Vietnam or India since they have so many geniuses on staff there why not? Answer is that Apple prefers to contract out what it needs to be made by Chinese slave labor so it cannot be blamed or protested by its own lefty audience. Better for Foxconn to be blamed so the cheap bast@rds contract out to Foxconn


25 posted on 05/06/2013 12:05:45 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: catnipman

You should check out the man who runs Samsung and has done so for years. Samsung ascent to greatness, 20 years all I knew about Samsung was cheap TVs while Apple was already a cool and established company


26 posted on 05/06/2013 12:09:57 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: All
Al Gore, Man of the People, Gets Paid Over $1 Million a Day to Sit on Apple’s Board, $125,000 per hour
27 posted on 05/06/2013 5:53:21 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Vermont Lt

Guys in magic costumes, armed with fully automatic weapons.


28 posted on 05/09/2013 8:35:19 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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