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Why the Left hates families: MELANIE PHIILLIPS reveals how the selfish sneers of Guardianistas...
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 3 May 2013 | Melanie Phillips

Posted on 05/05/2013 5:01:27 PM PDT by neverdem

Why the Left hates families: MELANIE PHIILLIPS reveals how the selfish sneers of Guardianistas made her see how the Left actively fosters – and revels in – family breakdown...

For the Left, I am the target of deepest hatred.

For my trenchant views, expressed in this newspaper, they call me ‘insane’, ‘reactionary’, ‘racist’, a ‘Nazi’, a ‘shroudwaver’, a ‘witch’ and a ‘warmonger’.

I have been accused of ‘unmatched depths of ignorance and bigotry’ and being the ‘queen of mean’.

It was even suggested (in a particularly extreme spasm of hyperbole) that I eat broken bottles and kill rats with my teeth.

This resort to crude insult against anyone who dares to challenge their shibboleths is typical of the Left. It doesn’t argue its case. It simply tries to shut down debate by bullying its targets and labelling them as extremists and enemies of humanity in order to frighten people away from listening to them.

But they reserve a special loathing for me. This is not just because I refuse to be cowed.

It’s because I was once one of them, one of the elect, a believer.

I come from the kind of family in which it was simply unthinkable to vote Conservative. For my parents, the Tory Party represented the boss class, while Labour supported the little man — people like us.

My father was haunted all his life by the poverty he endured growing up in the old East End of London in the Twenties and Thirties.

His family of six lived in two rooms; he never had enough to eat. He left school at the age of 13.

As a university-educated young woman with hippie-style hair and an attitude, I, too, generally toed the standard Leftist line in the late Seventies and early Eighties.

Poverty was bad, cuts...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aufhebungderfamilie; communism; destroythefamily; melaniephillips
In Depth: Melanie Phillips

Looks like midnight eastern time tonight.

I enjoy converts from the left. I never had a chance to be a liberal. I saw the left attacking the Second Amendment when I was a young teenager.

1 posted on 05/05/2013 5:01:27 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

bookmark


2 posted on 05/05/2013 5:04:52 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: neverdem

For progressives:

The STATE is mother and father.

Only the STATE can help or raise you.

You owe them.


3 posted on 05/05/2013 5:10:21 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: neverdem

Excellent article, thx for posting.


4 posted on 05/05/2013 5:15:36 PM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: neverdem

The Left HAS to attack the family and church. It is the only way THEY and their minions in power can control the population. The Left has simply tried to replace the church with the state, and all of the shibboleths one might find in the former are as trenchant in the latter.


5 posted on 05/05/2013 5:18:51 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: neverdem
I was once a young, brainwashed antiwar type. Me and my maturity and 11 -- 12 years old (or was it ten?). The problem was the lack of love for America the antiwar crowd had and the desire on my part not to see America lose a war that put me in conflict with so-called antiwar views. Also, reading Ayn Rand soured me on what little rudiments I knew of Socialism and Communism.

In 196e, I had a great teacher named George Christos who told us heroic tales of the Revolutionary War and I also knew that America defeated the bad Nazis. It was difficult to reconcile those views with the later so-called antiwar stuff I heard and the lack of respect for America those guys had.

Somehow, I doubt after 1963 there was much teaching of our heroic past in this country. If I was born at a later time, maybe I would've stayed a more seditious type. I would have heard nothing good about this country, I am sure.

6 posted on 05/05/2013 5:19:38 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: neverdem

I had never heard of Ms. Phillips, but I stumbled on her live on in depth this morning. I was quite impressed. My husband who is very liberal was not! I want to check out more of her writings.


7 posted on 05/05/2013 5:21:36 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: neverdem

Our cultural and political elites have simply turned truth and justice inside out and, with argument replaced by insult and abuse, taken leave of reality itself. They have destroyed rational discourse, polarised opinion and thereby undermined the possibility of finding common ground.


OBAMA
REID
PELOSI
CHRISMATTHEWS
DEMOCRATS
.........


8 posted on 05/05/2013 5:23:25 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: neverdem

Well considered and written as usual by Melanie Phillips. She’s the greatest.

More specifically the upscale side of the left hates for the peasants to have families. They don’t want peasants rising in business to compete. Many big shot families are tight—really tight. If asked, their families are perfect. That’s one of the practices that keep them going. I’ve worked for some of them.


9 posted on 05/05/2013 5:23:56 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: neverdem

This line is a succinct summation of a profound problem with application of the scientific method in any field:
“Evidence would be denied if the consequences were inconvenient”.

Or, “Agenda Uber Alles” to borrow an idea from the Germany of the Third Reich. What does the preceding, from a most nasty government mean to Americans today?

Much, it means much. Note that a bureaucrat is the same across the world, and when bureau-scientists ape their paymasters intellectual constructs, they become the same as “scientists” in the late USSR.

Remember Lysenko?

Now, look at the Academented in the schools and universities in your town.

Shockingly similar, isn’t it?


10 posted on 05/05/2013 5:34:10 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: neverdem

Great article! Thanks!


11 posted on 05/05/2013 6:51:32 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: neverdem

bump


12 posted on 05/05/2013 7:37:36 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: neverdem
How can I be ‘Right-wing’ when I am driven by the desire to make a better world, stand up for right over wrong and look after the most vulnerable in society?

But Ma'am that is what "right wingers" do.

The left talks about it but the right is who actually does it.

The left sticks a bumper sticker bleating about "better education". The right starts better schools and funds scholarships to those schools.

The left then attacks them for wanting shut down the bad schools.

The left whines about people being out of work. The right starts businesses.

The left calls them greedy.

The left cries about the homeless. The right starts charities for the 90% that are temporarily homeless and tries to get the 10% who are chronically homeless into a supervised living arrangement.

The left says that they are heartless.

13 posted on 05/05/2013 7:57:39 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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To: GladesGuru

Remember Darwin. He quickly became a Darwinist himself even though the evidence did not support his conclusions in the Descent of Man. It was not natural selection that was wrong but the misapplications of it to matters far removed from biology.


14 posted on 05/05/2013 8:39:41 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: neverdem

*Bump*

Her conversation story reminds me of David Horowitz’s.


15 posted on 05/05/2013 8:45:27 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: RobbyS

Who killed understanding of evolution?

Hint: The butler did not do it.

I suggest that to ask of a person with a life span of less than 100 years to understand 1,000,000 years is unreasonable and overly optimistic.

Alas, the one million year unit is the basic unit on evolutions’ timescale yardstick, timestick, whatever.


16 posted on 05/05/2013 9:05:25 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: neverdem
The scales began to fall from my eyes. I came to realise that the Left was not on the side of truth, reason and justice.
17 posted on 05/05/2013 10:03:30 PM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: GladesGuru

A theory that can explain a process that takes a million years, or even in a hundred thousand is not necessarily a theory that can explain one that has happened in a hundred.


18 posted on 05/06/2013 2:18:50 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: neverdem

Ha! I know someone that should read this.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 3:09:32 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: 2banana

Not really. The state, for a progressive, is a means to an end. Intellectuals like socialism/communism/totalitarianism not because it is perfect and without flaws, but for their own self-interest.

The ego, need-to-belong, and intellectualism (both real and imagined) of the progressive is the driving force in life. They long to be insiders/powerful/controlling. The state is a means to that.

Every government bureaucrat is a failure in market terms. They earn economic rent via government employment. Economic rent is profit above the market rate. While at the same time gaining power over other people’s lives. That’s progressivism from top to bottom.

Even within the progressive movement there are lackeys and masters. It’s all about the will to power and confronting the very real fact that someone “dumber” and less “intellectual” than them is achieving more. Can’t have that - it goes against the preconceived “natural order”. Liberals see the world this way.


20 posted on 05/06/2013 3:17:35 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: neverdem

Well worth reading, this is a long and detailed article that shows how the left wins its arguments, not by arguing the facts, but
by demonizing and berating those who disagree with them, especially one of their own who has seen the Conservative light.

It exposes liberal logic *snort* at it’s silliest.


21 posted on 05/06/2013 5:53:08 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: neverdem
The scales began to fall from my eyes. I came to realise that the Left was not on the side of truth, reason and justice.

Instead, it promoted ideology, malice and oppression. Rather than fighting abuse of power, it embodied it. Increasingly, I saw how journalists on highbrow papers write primarily for other journalists or to impress politicians or other members of the great and the good.

They don’t actually like ordinary people — especially the lower middle class, the strivers who believed in self-discipline and personal responsibility.

The left proclaims to love humanity; it's people that they can't abide!

22 posted on 05/06/2013 8:03:13 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: neverdem
Well, she's certainly got their number...

This revealed another sad truth about the Left. What matters to them above all is that they are seen to be virtuous and compassionate. They simply cannot deal with the possibility that they might not be.

They deal with any such suggestion not by facing up to any harm they may be doing, but by shutting down the argument altogether.

That’s because the banner behind which they march is not altruism, as they kid themselves. It is narcissism.

23 posted on 05/06/2013 9:20:37 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: 2banana

A good fictional representation is the “The Psy Corps” books based on Alfred Bester in the Babylon 5 books. The Psi Corp is mother and father. All telepaths are brothers and sisters. Register and join the corp, or get medicated and tortured or go on the run and often get killed. The corp controls where you live, what you do, who you can marry and the children you can have - and then the corp raises the children as they see fit.
It is a fascist state, and all the mantras are liberal.


24 posted on 05/06/2013 10:23:10 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: neverdem
I enjoy converts from the left. I never had a chance to be a liberal. I saw the left attacking the Second Amendment when I was a young teenager.

When I was 10, I thought the federal government out to cut Mississippi loose, tow it out to sea, and sink it with all hands. (I was focused on simple answers.)

The change began when I weighed in my mind the prohibitions, penalties, and invasions of businessmen's freedoms written into the 1964 Civil Rights Act (that Barry Goldwater voted against with his conservative conscience) and a year later saw newsreel footage of a black schoolgirl gloating over the Jewish and other white teachers in New York who'd just been peremptorily fired for "racism" (being white) the minute a black-led school board was seated.

Those were my first intimations that justice and fairness weren't on just one side, and that the Civil Rights Movement (c) wasn't exactly what it had represented itself to be.

The business in New York was damning. The Jewish teachers were without a doubt nearly all card-carrying liberals, but the black school board had served notice that, if you were white, you could never be liberal enough, and that it was fair deserts to fire you for "racism" in order to give your job to a black Alinskyite rabble-rouser.

25 posted on 05/06/2013 11:20:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: RobbyS
....the misapplications of [Darwinism] to matters far removed from biology.

Are you referring to "social Darwinism"?

Victorians were pleased to jump on that one because it confirmed their social prejudices -- see H.G. Wells's The Time Machine.

26 posted on 05/06/2013 11:26:25 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem
[Art.] For my trenchant views, expressed in this newspaper, they call me ‘insane’, ‘reactionary’, ‘racist’, a ‘Nazi’, a ‘shroudwaver’, a ‘witch’ and a ‘warmonger’.

Well, I rather like "shroudwaver" -- it's a new one, at least. New to me, anyway.

Once I figure out what it is, I might use it myself! ;D

27 posted on 05/06/2013 11:29:18 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem

“I enjoy converts from the left”

Me too. Converts in general tend to convert hard.


28 posted on 05/06/2013 11:39:52 AM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Satayana and doomed to repeat him)
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To: lentulusgracchus

And racism, too. Hitler’s political theory was founded on the concept of a superior breed being the natural rulers of mankind.


29 posted on 05/06/2013 11:40:50 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Yardstick

conversation = conversion


30 posted on 05/06/2013 8:04:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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