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GOP seeks alternative to overtime pay
Associated Press ^ | May 6, 2013 3:44 AM EDT | Sam Hananel

Posted on 05/06/2013 3:15:30 AM PDT by Olog-hai

It seems like a simple proposition: give employees who work more than 40 hours a week the option of taking paid time off instead of overtime pay.

The choice already exists in the public sector. Federal and state workers can save earned time off and use it weeks or even months later to attend a parent-teacher conference, care for an elderly parent or deal with home repairs.

Republicans in Congress are pushing legislation that would extend that option to the private sector. They say that would bring more flexibility to the workplace and help workers better balance family and career.

The push is part of a broader Republican agenda undertaken by House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., to expand the party’s political appeal to working families. The House is expected to vote on the measure this week, but the Democratic-controlled Senate isn’t likely to take it up. …

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1 posted on 05/06/2013 3:15:30 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Typical of the GOPe: taking the lead on more interference in business and private contracts, with the idea that that’ll somehow make liberals vote for their candidates.


2 posted on 05/06/2013 3:18:34 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Olog-hai

I’d rather have the overtime.


3 posted on 05/06/2013 3:18:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai

Seems like a mute point, since most private sector workers, will only be working 28 hours a week.


4 posted on 05/06/2013 3:20:07 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Olog-hai

How about we reduce the number of government employees by 25%, and let the rest work over time.


5 posted on 05/06/2013 3:21:14 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai

With all of the crap going on, why is the GOPe focused on this??


6 posted on 05/06/2013 3:21:54 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cripplecreek
Yeah Ralph, just 18 more hours overtime and I'll be able to strip and replace my roof.

'Course it'll cost me a bundle, and I ain't as young as I used t'be, and I hope it doesn't rain, and I have only 4 days to do it .....

7 posted on 05/06/2013 3:32:42 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Olog-hai

Idiots. They are all idiots.


8 posted on 05/06/2013 3:34:37 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Olog-hai

It could be an option (since so much overtime pay gets eaten by taxes anyway) for those who want it, but there’s a fatal flaw in comparing it to the policies used for civil servants: government employees are paid an average of 20% more than private sector employees for the same job.

So they’re already earning more than most people, and taking time off is just gravy.


9 posted on 05/06/2013 3:40:44 AM PDT by livius
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To: 9YearLurker

I believe this to be mostly unnecessary.
In the Obamacare decade one will be lucky not to be working 2 jobs to get 40 hrs., Much less earning overtime.


10 posted on 05/06/2013 3:49:31 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: livius

Indeed—it is the government pay and standards that should be pared back at least to the level of private pay and standards.


11 posted on 05/06/2013 3:54:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Olog-hai

In the FedGov, overtime rates are capped by law at a certain maximum rate. As you rise through the pay scale, overtime stops being time-and-a-half, and eventually becomes less than regular time. In times of budgetary difficulty, overtime pay is generally not authorized at all, so taking the compensatory time off is the only option.


12 posted on 05/06/2013 4:02:27 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Actually if they work overtime thier paycheck should be reduced.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 4:03:46 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: PoloSec

“Seems like a mute point, since most private sector workers, will only be working 28 hours a week.”

I understand you’re comment is in reference to ObamaCare (and I fear you are right), but this also seems to be to relieve salary costs on companies (in the hopes that they may hire more people with the money saved). When Portugal faced an influx of people returning from the African disasters of Angola and Mozambique in the 1970s, the government simply shortened the work-week so companies would look to hire more people. To this day in some western European countries overtime is illegal; while this was originally done to protect workers from exploitation, the unintended consequences are still ignored.


14 posted on 05/06/2013 4:09:53 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Olog-hai

Republicans in Congress are pushing legislation that would extend that option to the private sector. They say that would bring more flexibility to the workplace and help workers better balance family and career.


Two things:

1. This is already common.
2. It’s none of their business. This is one of the reasons I left the R’s. They are simply socialist lite.

As one visiting pastor said in my church 30 years ago, “where would the early church have been if it had put its faith in Rome.

The R’s and D’s are not the answer. The answer lies in those words spoken by Claire Wolfe in the late 20th century:

“America is at that awkward stage: It’s too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the bast**ds.”

I disagreed with that at the time, but now think it was just a few years early.


15 posted on 05/06/2013 4:10:43 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

Amen!


16 posted on 05/06/2013 4:23:35 AM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: cripplecreek

Fine! That’s your choice.


17 posted on 05/06/2013 4:27:56 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: GeronL
How about we reduce the number of government employees by 25%, and let the rest work over time.

How about we reduce the number by 25% and demand those that are left actually work? Why are we arguing over work rules for unconstitutional government agencies? Most of these government jobs shouldn't even be government jobs.

18 posted on 05/06/2013 4:28:16 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: cuban leaf

You’re right. This is common enough in the industry I’m in. I “flex” my time just about every week. Great way to take care of things without having to take time off. My company gets more work out of me too. Why does the government care? One, it is none of their business. Two, do they really have nothing better to look into?


19 posted on 05/06/2013 4:29:57 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Here’s an idea: make OT pay tax exempt and watch productivity soar.


20 posted on 05/06/2013 4:33:45 AM PDT by relictele (A place dedicated to economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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To: reg45

Then why is the GOP inserting themselves into it?


21 posted on 05/06/2013 4:34:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: relictele

Ha—too many people unemployed as it is and we should want less rather than more maneuvering through tax policy. (You’d be giving both employers and employees an incentive to classify more work currently being done as overtime.)


22 posted on 05/06/2013 4:39:00 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: GeronL; RFEngineer

GeronL: With all of the crap going on, why is the GOPe focused on this??

RFEngineer: Idiots. They are all idiots.

Poster #6, meet Poster #8.


23 posted on 05/06/2013 4:39:51 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick

bump


24 posted on 05/06/2013 4:40:32 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 9YearLurker

If 29 hours is fulltime according to ObamaCare, does that mean 30th hours will soon be overtime?


25 posted on 05/06/2013 4:42:20 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

You just know this won’t end well.

I can see lots of hours being cut to just short of full time and more part time people hired.

Its like the explosion of temp service jobs in Bill Clinton’s wonderful economy.


26 posted on 05/06/2013 4:51:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: GeronL

Don’t give them ideas!


27 posted on 05/06/2013 4:57:20 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: PoloSec

Yeah, gotta’ love those moot points, eh? ;-)


28 posted on 05/06/2013 4:57:27 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Dim Logic: "Let me vote Democrat. Hey, I got screwed! Let me vote Democrat. Hey, I got screwed!")
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To: Olog-hai
It sounds good until you factor in the benefits for the extra employees needed to make up for the shorter work week.

Private employers crunched the numbers long ago, paying OT is FAR cheaper!

29 posted on 05/06/2013 5:02:44 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: cripplecreek

Having been salary my entire working life, I would rather take the pay over “time off” later on. One company I worked at did that for several years. It was straight time but they did pay it when I worked more than forty hours a week.

Later on they dropped that and went with the “Time off” later on. Which we quickly learned meant take it as soon as you could or it disappeared down the memory hole.


30 posted on 05/06/2013 5:03:16 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Olog-hai

Here’s a thought:

Don’t pay gov’t workers ANYTHING for overtime and they’ll find a way to get their job done in 40 hrs.

Leave the private sector alone, you have NO jurisdiction there!

This would be another payoff to the UNIONS.
The mob bosses want more money!


31 posted on 05/06/2013 5:22:54 AM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: Olog-hai

Most employers were able to figure this out a long time ago. Give the workers a straight salary and then give them work loads that demand overtime.


32 posted on 05/06/2013 6:25:36 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: G Larry

Look. 40 hours/week = 2080 hours/year. Anyone who can prove thru paycheck stubs that they worked those hours(minus vacation) should be entitled to all the cash benefits we(taxpayers) can afford. It would be subject to GDP/GNP and awarded only after the numbers are added up. Those that are unable to work can die trying. The numbers will go up every time we cut off the deadbeats and those here illegally. Get rid of food stamps and give them rice and beans-a complete protein. Nuff said.


33 posted on 05/06/2013 6:31:16 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: ThunderSleeps

“I “flex” my time just about every week. Great way to take care of things without having to take time off. My company gets more work out of me too.”

Guess what? If the government mandates this, your employer will be forced to do this for every employee - even ones that are marginal. Your employer will be forced to establish stricter work hours, and your ability to “Flex” will be curtailed because if they allow you, they will have to allow the marginal employees who may not warrant such a benefit to do it too.

What other choice does an employer have when the government gets involved? In their mind, the only reason a non-productive employee is not productive is because you don’t let him have time off whenever he wants it to take care of personal business.

ANY half-witted employer cares more about productivity than strict hours worked and would let a productive employee take care of personal things and make it up by working more some other time.

ANY half-witted employer would also keep a slacker on a short leash.


34 posted on 05/06/2013 7:44:28 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: 9YearLurker

Actually a lot of working women would prefer the flex time to OT pay which is now legally required.

So by opposing this the Dems are engaging in a WAR ON WOMEN /sarc.

(their response of course will be to legally require massive amounts of PAID time off, a la France)


35 posted on 05/06/2013 8:09:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You make a fair point in that I’d take away the overtime requirement altogether. Salaried folk don’t get it, but they often informally get comp time in its stead.


36 posted on 05/06/2013 8:15:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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