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To: Biggirl

Is this guy crazy?


2 posted on 05/06/2013 3:37:45 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Love the comments. One (of 2500+) says this paper has a circulation of 7500 and nearly all of the ones I read call him an idiot in some form.


3 posted on 05/06/2013 3:50:07 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Venturer

No, Perry isn’t crazy in the usual sense of the word, he’s just stupid as is Nancy Pelosi (”We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.”}

No wonder the Senate REJECTED the bill, and no wonder Obama threw a “hissy fit” when the Senate did it.

But we sure were never told of the actual terms of what the bill included. You kind of wonder why this information never makes the papers or TV news.....

Read this very carefully....

The “most popular” part of the proposed Senate gun control bill (background checks) sounds like a good idea at first but is more restrictive than anyone anticipated and will have significant unintended consequences.
There was a huge push to get it through Congress before the public had a chance to consider its contents.

Common activities that we take for granted would become federal crimes. These are not irresponsible exaggerations. Please take a moment to review the requirements of the bill.
Here are a few examples of the restrictions in the bill:

EXAMPLE #1
Loaning your buddy a shotgun for a duck hunting trip will be considered a transfer. If the following requirements are not met, YOU HAVE BOTH COMMITTED A FEDERAL CRIME.

1. He must have already purchased his hunting license
2. Season is already open (and will not close before he returns it)
3. He cannot travel with the firearm through a county where season is not yet open or any area where hunting is prohibited and certainly not across a state line.

He CANNOT stop by your house on the day before season opens, pick up the shot gun, go to the sporting goods store to buy a license and shells then drive out to the hunting lease. In this scenario, YOU BOTH WOULD HAVE COMMITTED MULTIPLE FEDERAL CRIMES, YOUR WEAPONS WILL BE FORFEITED AND YOU WILL LOSE YOUR RIGHT TO BUY OR OWN A FIREARM.

EXAMPLE #2
It appears that only you may relocate your weapons. If your weapon leaves your home without you, the new legislation considers it a transfer of possession. ALL transfers require going through a firearms dealer, paying the transfer fee and a background check for the transferee.

Putting the weapon, even temporarily in someone else’s possession, requires a transfer through a dealer. There is no exception for putting them in a friend’s truck while moving to your new house or packing them unloaded, locked in a gunsafe into a moving truck.
Any scenario in which your weapon leaves your home without you is considered a transfer. Failure to properly transfer the weapon is a federal crime which can result in a prison term AND WILL RESULT IN THE FORFEITURE OF YOUR WEAPON.

In the scenario above, your buddy’s truck was used to commit a federal crime and WILL BE CONFISCATED just like with current Fish and Game violations.

EXAMPLE #3
Infractions as above which involve 2 guns of any type are considered weapons trafficking. You will be prosecuted under the same federal laws as a terrorist arms dealer.

EXAMPLE #4
Any of the infractions above (or hundreds of other routine scenarios) may result in federal charges, confiscation of ALL your weapons and being prohibited, like all felons, from ever owning a weapon again.

Please read the text of the bill yourself. Most of it is boring legalese but the sections on transfers and trafficking are critical.
Take a minute to think about all the routine activities like those above that will make you a federal criminal and result in prison time plus the confiscation of your weapons and other property.

A link to the bill is included below on the official Senate website. See Section 122 “Firearms Transfers”.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c113:S.649:


7 posted on 05/06/2013 4:07:16 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Venturer
Is this guy crazy?

There exists in America today a frighteningly large and significant number of people for whom reason is wholly absent from their thought processes.

Liberal Progressives are driven by emotion, and by a fanatical fear of personal responsibility, and by extension: of individual liberty They view anyone who espouses opposing viewpoints not merely as incorrect or mistaken as a matter of fact (which would imply the use of logic) but instead, as evil.

Further, they are egged on by their leaders (beginning with Barack Obama) and encouraged to give power to their base impulses by giving power to the State, so that the things they fear may become unnecessary (as concerns their own responsibility) or illegal (as affects the freedom of others to exercise their rights and responsibilities).

One result is an increasingly shrill and unhinged tone from the Left, occasioned by the realization that conservatives are not about to simply roll over and play dead, no matter how moribund the Republican Party may presently appear to be.

Viewed in this light, the argument over gun rights is a proxy for a much larger struggle, a vital one. Because the stakes are so high, the rhetoric employed by Progressive emotionalists (those who substitute emotion for reason, and mere wants for rights) is increasingly taking on a frantic, menacing tone.

17 posted on 05/06/2013 6:47:59 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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