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Four Additional Hurdles for Immigration Reform
Time ^ | 5/6/13 | Alex Altman

Posted on 05/06/2013 6:26:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Back when the Senate’s Gang of Eight was haggling over the details of its immigration-reform bill, TIME dug into four major hurdles the bill would have to clear. But now the dynamics have changed. The gang has published its proposal, and the details are now being debated in public. With the legislation now headed for mark up in the Judiciary Committee on May 9, here are four new obstacles around which supporters will have to navigate:

Problem #1: Stalling tactics from the right...

Problem #2: Pushback from the left...

Problem #3: The cost for taxpayers...

Problem #4: The conservative media storyline...

(Excerpt) Read more at swampland.time.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens
Submitted for laughs. Rubio is even saying the bill needs changes, if current headlines are accurate.....but Dick Turban is saying NO to changes in the bill.

Bottom line: pray for this bad bill to LOSE IN THE SENATE. The assclown's plan is to blame HOUSE REPUBLICANS for the defeat....(whatever happened to conference committees?) but if the Senate says no, that plan goes to Hades.

1 posted on 05/06/2013 6:26:19 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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2 posted on 05/06/2013 6:28:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think the Republicans are gonna stall this until Benghazi’s full force ends a couple of weeks from now, then the bill will die.

I noticed that Obama is promoting another jobs tour, which means the bill is dead.


3 posted on 05/06/2013 6:30:17 AM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

Prediction: The bill will pass in the Senate.


4 posted on 05/06/2013 6:39:44 AM PDT by kabar
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(REGISTERING SHOCK AND SURPRISE) A $150 million provision in the Rubio/Schumer reform bill is a “slush fund” --- millions of tax dollars for the same "ethnic solidarity poisoners" that wrote the legislation; millions w/ no cap or oversight---a federal ATM to spread ethnic solidarity poison throughout the US.

$100 million in federal grants to public and private "ethic solidarity nonprofits" to help illegals complete applications and choose which of their multiple identities to use to get the most US freebies.

Another $50 million for legal help and PR campaigns that tell illegals about the “trainload of freebies they get w/ registered immigration status.”

Dam those tricky Dems---they's downright diabolical! This is NOT Marco Rubio’s fault. He was pumping his prez ambitions on Sunday talk----visions of voting illegals w/ multiple identities dancing in his head.

Tolerant and compassionate Rubio sobbed when he told America that the immigration bill was "harsh"---that poor illegals would die of old age before they get citizenship. Rubio wrung his hands in despair that those wascally Dems snuck all kinds of funding and stuff into it. (cue graphic of Rubio w/ halo).

Graphic courtesy of auntb.

5 posted on 05/06/2013 6:40:17 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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Rubio/Schumer is an atrocity--turns Americans into a conquered people---subservient to the corrupt Third World.

IMMIGRATION REFORM IS THE GATEWAY TO TERRORISM---ETHNIC SOLIDARITY POISON FORCED DOWN OUR THROATS "Reform" finances and gives unlimited power to individuals with primitive survival instincts honed in corrupt Third World hellholes where everything is for sale. The survivalist instincts of illegals DO NOT correspond to freedom and democracy----bedrock America principles we consider sacrosanct. To these individual---its all about "what's in it for me, and who do I payoff to get it."

Alarmingly, the bill finances the coming violence, and gives a pass for any activity illegaly engaged in now or before.....and blesses future illegal acts.

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<><> Does not keep slobbering illegals out of the welfare trough.

<><> Gives Obomba's militarized DHS even more power.

<><> Gives enormous power over Americans to the corrupt Third World.

<><> Grants amnesty to illegal aliens simply after the DHS Secy submits her jerry-built plans to secure the border;

<><> Grants amnesty to criminals and gang members swarming into the US;

<><> Does not require amnestied illegal aliens to pay back-taxes;

<><> Does not require amnestied illegal aliens to learn English;

<><>Allows illegal aliens to sue the US government for amnesty;

<><> Allows "ethinc solidarity" to reign: lobbies can sue to prevent enforcement measures from taking place before illegal aliens can receive green cards;

<><> Requires taxpayers foot the bill for illegal aliens to fight deportations (at the AG’s sole and unreviewable discretion);

<><> Requires only 3 of 9 southern border sectors to have a 90% apprehension rate, leaving the rest in "porous status";

<><> Grants green cards and citizenship after 5 years to illegal aliens claiming (no proof needed) to have come to the US before the age of 16;

<><>Effectively halts all deportations for years by prohibiting deportation until the illegal alien’s application is adjudicated;

<><> Extorts "slush funds" amounting to $150 million tax dollars (as a starter) to ethnic solidarity groups like La Raza ( which advocates bloody, violent uprisings agaiinst Americans);

<><> Allows the ethnic solidarity bunch to sue to prevent enforcement measures from taking place before illegal aliens can receive green cards;

<><> Requires taxpayers to foot the bill for illegals to fight deportation.

<><> Requires no penalties for the thousands of illegals w/ forged/faked multiplte identities (a common practice).

<><> Allows illegals to freely slobber at the public trough under several identities.......sending US tax dollars back to their homelands.

<><> Does not include key provisions like Motor Voter reform that would “secure the vote.”

Graphic courtesy of auntb.

6 posted on 05/06/2013 6:41:19 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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Power-crazed Obomba and his Democrat henchmen are forcing "ethnic solidarity poison" down our throats and expect Americans to say, "Mmmm, mmmm good."

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Sap-happy, smirking Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill) said "immigration reform" directly addresses security flaws exploited by the Boston bombers ... just more claptrap from vote-crazed Dems....they'll say and do anything to stay in power. "Reform" is their ticket to Dem paradise.

Durbin stupidly referred to the Kazakhstan student let into the US without a visa who is now in custody---accused of helping his Chechnyan bombing pal----suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev---- by disposing crucual evidence to help Tsarnaev stay out of trouble.

"There's not enough coordination between US agencies WRT foreigners being in the United States," Durbin told CNN. "....the reform bill addresses that," smirked dimwit Durbin.

MEMO TO DICKIE--- Clearly, these foreigners---joined together by ethnic solidarity--- are on a Kill Americans Jihad. "Immigration Reform" is the gateway to terrorism, and would force Americans to finance these explosive activities.

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SEEMS TO ME WE'VE HEARD THIS SONG BEFORE The Rubio/Schumer amnesty atrocity's subtitle is "Violent Lifestyles of the Boston Bombers and Friends."

America welcomed the Boston bomber cabal with open arms---we enabled them w/ student visas (which are handed out like popcorn). One of the coverup-crew was even let back into the US w/ an expired student visa. We educated them, housed them, fed and clothed them---the feds/state/city showered them w/ freebies----all financed by taxpayers.

The thanks we got was dead, limbless, maimed and wounded Americans. Bostonians had no inkling WRT the bomber's hatred for them and our way of life.

ILLEGALS HAVE ALREADY ASSERTED THEIR INTENTIONS---they intend to kill Americans and incite bloody, violent uprisings against Americans. The Rubio/Schumer amnesty "immigration reform" atrocity finances the coming violence----and gives them a pass for any activity illegaly engaged in now or before.....and legal blessings for future illegal acts.

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BLOOD-CURDLING "LA RAZA STUDIES"---ACTUALLY TAUGHT IN ARIZONA SCHOOLS: These shocking quotes are taken directly from A LA Raza textbook "Occupied America" (pg. 167): “Supporters would execute all white males over age 16,” (also known as the Plan of San Diego). LA Raza school textbook chapter from “Occupied America,” by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and if worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323).

La Raza studies emphasize the need for Mexico to re-take seven states in SW United States. so that the Southwest USA would become a Chicano nation.

YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS In 2005 alone, $7.9 million in taxpayer funding was given to "La Raza charter schools" via the US Dept of Education grants. These charter schools stress Latino culture, the Spanish language, the re- conquest of the American Southwest, the establishment of the mythical Atzlan on US soil, and even Aztec math.

La Raza is using tax dollars to organize the murdering of Americans; the federally-funded La Raza organization operates 100 charter schools across America. The Rubio/Schumer atrocity would give La Raza another $150 million (that's for starters).

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ARIZONA SCHOOL BOARD NUT CASE--- Adelita Grijalva is the woman on the Arizona school board pimping La Raza indoctrination programs in Tuscon schools. Adelita is all up in arms about Raza Studies getting tossed via the AZ state legislature's action...she is the daughter of Raul Grijalva (D-AZ-7) who was just narrowly re-elected to our US Congress.

US Congressman Raul Grijalva (and friend) is one of Mexico’s most productive and loyal representatives in our Congress....aiding--abetting and funding La Raza studies.

7 posted on 05/06/2013 6:43:45 AM PDT by Liz (To learn who rules over you, determine who you are not allowed to criticize. Voltaire)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Lets look at what is required of a REAL immigrant

1. tested for disease must pass
2. must get shots and complete medical pay for those themselves
3. background check for any crimes must pass
4. swears they will not apply for public assistance must keep this promise
5. must have funds to support themselves or to pay for deportment travel
6 Must not work until they have received the Green card
7. Must swear everything they signed is the truth deportation if found out as lies
8. Must pay fees
9. Must not enter the US until permission is given..

Illegal aliens are not immigrants..


8 posted on 05/06/2013 6:43:47 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SoFloFreeper
The assclown's plan is to blame HOUSE REPUBLICANS for the defeat....

Didn't Obama say over the weekend that same sex marriage should be in the immigration bill? Pretty sure I heard that because I thought "proof he wants immigration to fail so he can blame republicans."

9 posted on 05/06/2013 6:48:02 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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Does anyone else get the feeling that this is one big pander to the Hispanics? There are Democrat groups like blacks and union workers that don't want this to pass.

It seems to me like the Democrat politicians want to put up this bill and vote for it and have Republicans vote it down, so they can say they tried, while making Republicans look anti-Hispanic. But the Republicans don't want to play the rube, so they plan to vote for it, too. So the Dems are now talking about adding gay partner 'rights', because if no one votes against it, it might pass. Bonus: Republicans look 'homophobic'.

10 posted on 05/06/2013 6:49:04 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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The chairman of the judiciary committee if Leaky Leahy. Leahy employs illegals on his farm. A couple of years ago, his farm manager got pulled over for speeding with a number of "undocumented" types in the vehicle.

The state cop was dressed down for doing his job by governor, after a call from Leahy...

11 posted on 05/06/2013 6:58:14 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Tennessee Nana

#4, 5, 6, and 7 actually is not true. They are not enforced. Just another set of laws never enforced.


12 posted on 05/06/2013 7:18:09 AM PDT by sheana
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#4, 5, 6, and 7 actually is not true. They are not enforced. Just another set of laws never enforced.
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Kid I know of which I speak

I was an immigrant...

These certainly are true for REAL immigrants...

dont confuse illegal aliens with immigrants...

Illegal aliens are ANTI-IMMIGRATION...


13 posted on 05/06/2013 7:33:24 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I know of which I speak since I worked as an eligibility worker for our counties Department of Human Resources and processed their applications for assistance. I was told when I asked about these rules.....Oh, its not our job to enforce these rules, just process them. And I was talking about legal immigrants.


14 posted on 05/06/2013 7:36:00 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs

I know of which I speak since I worked as an eligibility worker for our counties Department of Human Resources and processed their applications for assistance. I was told when I asked about these rules.....Oh, its not our job to enforce these rules, just process them. And I was talking about legal immigrants.
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Kid Im not talking about illegal aliens being processed AFTER they arrive...

and being processed by uneducated pencil pushers..

Im talking about REAL immigrants being processed BEFORE they ever leave their own countries...

at the US Embassy by US officials steeped in immigration law...

Theres a big difference between illegal aliens and frightened $5 clerks who just follow orders legal or not...

and REAL immigrants required to follow the US immigration laws and jumping through every hoop..

The fact that you got to process documents within the US for non-Americans announces these were not immigrants or you were processing immigrants AFTER the fact...

after they had already arrived...

The people at Immigration didnt do much to my paperwoek either...

It was already completed BEFORE I ever came here...

They just rubberstamped documents and reminded me not to work until I received a Green Card ...Alien Registration Card...

The Dept of Human Resources is not Immigration...

Immigrants would not be applying for “assistance”

You broke the law by processing the documents if they were immigrants...

and by not turning them in...

IMHO you are part of the problem...

They were not “eligible” for assistance...

Those immigrats did something worthy of deportaion

and you helped them...

You didnt say you would be fired if you didnt break the law...

and if you had been fired you could have sued them...

and exposed them and blew the whistle...


15 posted on 05/06/2013 8:05:46 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Apparently you totally missed the point. Yes there are laws that legal immigrants (which these were, how many times do I have to say it?) sign, papers with rules that they are supposed to follow but just like everything else it is NOT tracked. Once they are here they are not enforced. Multiply what my county was doing across the U.S. Do you really think that everyone is enforcing this? Just like everything else.....it is not our problem, process it. Who do you think would have cared had I made that phone call to report the legal immigrants? The Boston Bombers collected welfare for 10 years.
Only the American people care (at least I hope so), the rest of the cretins in government....not so much.


16 posted on 05/06/2013 8:24:56 AM PDT by sheana
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Apparently you totally missed the point.
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No it was you who seems to have missed the point...

I was speaking of REAL immigrants and the process for i mmigration required BEFORE they ever leave their home countries...

You would have had to be in one of those foreign countries to be part of that...

again I was not speaking of what might happen AFTER they arrive...

Immigrants swear they will NOT apply for assistance...

If they do they will be deported...

If a clerk in a county office in the US has given welfare food stamps etc to immigrants then that clerk has broken immigration laws.../

you admitted that you were told to disobey stated laws (you called the “rule”) then you knew what you were doing and that it was illegal...

you also dont seem to have been threatened with the lose of your job you badly needed in order to feed your dozen children and 50 aged or disabled family members..

Those people were not “eligible” but you ignored that and gave them handouts that you would have denied American citizens...

IMHO you are or were part of the problem...

Billions of tax payers money is just handed over to ineligible people every year by clerks who could care less for our laws ...

It has caused a gravy train magnet...

the illegal aliens come here in the hopes of meeting careless people like you and getting their Obamamoney EBTs...


17 posted on 05/06/2013 8:38:36 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: sheana; Liz

Apparently you totally missed the point.
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and point taken...

It seems you are saying everybody does it so it was OK that you gave away the money of harding working American citizens to those who are ineleigible...

Gee the Boston terrorists got assistance so its alright...

No its not...


18 posted on 05/06/2013 8:43:48 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

You are being purposely obtuse. Nothing to see, move along.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 9:08:42 AM PDT by sheana
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To: SoFloFreeper
Anyone that believes this ass clown in the WH will enforce something because it is "written in law" is just plain not living in the same universe as the rest of us.

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano declared that she, President Barack Obama and other political officials at the top of this administration have the authority to decide which laws to enforce, and which ones to ignore.
20 posted on 05/06/2013 3:06:08 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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