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As buzz mounts, Ted Cruz’s White House eligibility again questioned
Washingon Times ^

Posted on 05/06/2013 7:09:31 AM PDT by Perdogg

Ted Cruz’s address at the annual South Carolina Republican Party dinner Friday helped feed growing speculation that the freshman senator from Texas is eyeing a run for the White House in 2016 — and raised yet another round of questions about his eligibility to serve in the Oval Office.

Mr. Cruz was born in Canada to an American-born mother and Cuban-born father, and was a citizen from birth — but that Canadian factor puts him in the company of other past candidates who have had their eligibility questioned because of the Constitution’s requirement that a president be a “natural born citizen.”

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; birthers; certifigate; cruz2016; naturalborncitizen; tedcruz
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1 posted on 05/06/2013 7:09:31 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: SunkenCiv; SeekAndFind

ping


2 posted on 05/06/2013 7:09:50 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Perdogg

Haha.

Go Ted. :D


3 posted on 05/06/2013 7:10:19 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Perdogg

He not eligible because he’s not a NBC so why do they keep bringing it up? Interesting how the msm is getting antsy about Cruz this far out when they totally ignored hussein’s lack of eligibility.


4 posted on 05/06/2013 7:12:01 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Perdogg
Absolutely incredible considering the obviously unqualified and most certainly ineligible Obama. Just plain incredible!
5 posted on 05/06/2013 7:12:37 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Perdogg

I don’t think Senator Cruz will run in 2016( I started working for his Senate election in Feb 2011)
but it is really funnyto see all the Dems all wee wee’d up ovcer him.

He will run someday but in the meantime let the haters wase all their anger on MY Senator. There will be nothing left for the others


6 posted on 05/06/2013 7:14:22 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: bgill

Was his father an American citizen at the time of his birth? Was either of his parents a citizen of Canada?


7 posted on 05/06/2013 7:14:30 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Perdogg

Compared to the current occupant of the Whie House, Cruz’s ancestors came over on the Mayflower.


8 posted on 05/06/2013 7:14:35 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: Perdogg

Amazing what the media can find out about eligibility when they are motivated to do so.


9 posted on 05/06/2013 7:16:40 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Compared to the current occupant of the Whie House, Cruz’s ancestors came over on the Mayflower.

Yes, funny, and actually legally significant. Precedence is very important legal factor in our system, and the one set by Obama means that Cruz, Rubio, etc, are no problem whatsoever. Not saying that's right or wrong, just saying it is.....

10 posted on 05/06/2013 7:16:43 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: mazda77

Considering that most Canadians sort of consider themselves semi-Americans, give him a chance.


11 posted on 05/06/2013 7:17:32 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

The Scab Pickers are always with us...


12 posted on 05/06/2013 7:17:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Perdogg

13 posted on 05/06/2013 7:18:32 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: bgill

“He not eligible because he’s not a NBC so why do they keep bringing it up?”

I agree with you... He’s not a natural born citizen. Obama isn’t either IMHO and should be thrown in jail for it. We can’t afford as a nation to change the Constitution just because the usurper seems to have gotten away with it.


14 posted on 05/06/2013 7:19:34 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Perdogg

A citizen at the time of adoption of the Constitution? No. Nobody alive today is.

A naturalized citizen? No. He was a citizen at birth.

A natural born citizen? Yes. The Constitution only has three categories of citizenship - and Cruz is not either of the other two.


15 posted on 05/06/2013 7:19:46 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Perdogg

Precedence has been established.

He will be okay once he shows his Kenyan birth certificate.


16 posted on 05/06/2013 7:19:56 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Households paying no income tax: Reagan 19%, Clinton 25%, Bush 30%, Obama 47%)
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To: Jonty30
"Amazing what the media can find out about eligibility when they are motivated to do so."

This.

17 posted on 05/06/2013 7:21:18 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Blather. Reince. Repeat.)
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To: Perdogg

he is more American than Obama, and that’s good enough for me.


18 posted on 05/06/2013 7:21:32 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: allmendream

agreed.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 7:21:44 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: Perdogg

I’d much rather see him serve a couple of decades as a valuable CONSERVATIVE senator.


20 posted on 05/06/2013 7:21:51 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Perdogg
Cruz! Cruz! Cruz!

Cruuuuuuuz!

21 posted on 05/06/2013 7:22:50 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: Perdogg
If Ubama is eligible, anybody is eligible.
22 posted on 05/06/2013 7:23:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: mazda77

neither of Marco Rubio’s Cuban parents were American citizens when he was born, and did not become naturalized until he was about 4

so there ya go

press feeding frenzy about the “constitution” and citizenship, while the Indo-Kenyan with multiple falsified birth certificates posted, bobs and weaves another 3 years


23 posted on 05/06/2013 7:23:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Perdogg

the same media that was silent will happily make this the #1 issue in 2016


24 posted on 05/06/2013 7:24:47 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Making Cruz ineligible while maintaining Obama’s eligibility would be a task that even the liberal logical contortionists couldn’t perform. And declaring Obama ineligible ex post facto would undo every action he performed as an illegal president. That would lead, for starters, to the end of Obamacare, and the removal of some very liberal judges, two of whom are on the Supreme Court.


25 posted on 05/06/2013 7:25:01 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: fwdude

People keep saying “I rather _________(name) be my _________ (office) than run for President or Vice-President.”

Eventually if you want a ‘true conservative’ in the White House, a conservative is going to have to run for the office.


26 posted on 05/06/2013 7:25:06 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: babygene
He’s not a natural born citizen. Obama isn’t either IMHO and should be thrown in jail for it. We can’t afford as a nation to change the Constitution just because the usurper seems to have gotten away with it.

Some interesting nuggets in your post...and a couple of potential flies in your ointment. First, there are a lot of crednetialled conservatives who do not agree with your assessment of the Constitutional breach, just as there are a lot who do.

And there's another issue: original intent: the intent of this provision is not to worship a piece of land. It was to protect the idea of America from those who would have more allegiance to another nation. Regardless of where the truth comes down on the technicality, Cruz is in no way in violation of the spirit of the Constitutional provision.

This is a debate I watch from the sidelines, as I have moments where both sides make good points. But when a technicality is in question, I always defer to the intent.

27 posted on 05/06/2013 7:26:03 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

That’s not gonna happen, much as I wish it would, and there are easier ways to end Obama Care.


28 posted on 05/06/2013 7:26:51 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: silverleaf

Rubio parents were legal residents, in accordance with Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, of the US at the time Rubio was born in the US thus making Rubio nBC.


29 posted on 05/06/2013 7:28:30 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: silverleaf

Miami is the capitol of South America. It would be nice to see an emphasis on that region of the world. Cruz in the WH would raise a lot of antennas.


30 posted on 05/06/2013 7:29:11 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: mazda77

His mother is American. His father, a Cuban, didn’t get his US citizenship until 2005. Meaning Cruz isn’t a NBC. End of story.


31 posted on 05/06/2013 7:29:30 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Perdogg

Well, the proper conservative candidate has to be above reproach as far as qualifications, and if either of Cruz’s parents were not citizens, then we’d better hold out for a conservative beyond question.

And let it be perfectly clear that such a lack of qualification does not besmirch Cruz’s name in the least. If we want to be a constitutional republic, we’d better insist on acting like one.


32 posted on 05/06/2013 7:30:47 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: allmendream

No he isn’t.


33 posted on 05/06/2013 7:31:32 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: Perdogg

I could care less about what Democrats say about eligibility of other candidates since Obama is not even an American.


34 posted on 05/06/2013 7:31:37 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; TruthShallSetYouFree

The SCOTUS has already ruled that ineligibility for an office will not nullify a law.


35 posted on 05/06/2013 7:33:31 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Making Cruz ineligible while maintaining Obama’s eligibility would be a task that even the liberal logical contortionists couldn’t perform.

They won't try. They'll just stir up the conservatives who don't think Cruz is a natural born citizen with comparisons between the circumstances of his birth and the circumstances of Obama's.

Cruz doesn't need to worry about attacks from Democrats. He's going to have more than enough from Republicans to keep him busy.

36 posted on 05/06/2013 7:34:15 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Perdogg

He should comment that Obama has already set the precedent that you don’t have to be a NBC.


37 posted on 05/06/2013 7:34:27 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Obadiah

James Carville: Ted Cruz Is The Most ‘Fearless Republican’ I’ve Seen In ‘30 Years’


38 posted on 05/06/2013 7:34:47 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Perdogg

The Dimocrat MSM will of course challenge this man being eligible for the White House, but not their selected messiah.


39 posted on 05/06/2013 7:34:55 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: RWGinger

I don’t think Senator Cruz will run in 2016( I started working for his Senate election in Feb 2011)
but it is really funnyto see all the Dems all wee wee’d up ovcer him.

He will run someday but in the meantime let the haters wase all their anger on MY Senator. There will be nothing left for the others

Agreed, for 2016 Cruz works best in a “Rodeo Clown” sorta role, distracting the MSM while we fine a rock solid conservative.

Any one who knows Rodeos knows Rodeo Clowns don’t clown around, they are vital in saving the cowboy (conservative) from an angry bull (The MSM aparatus) .


40 posted on 05/06/2013 7:35:17 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: bgill
So what type of citizen do you think he is?

Do you agree that Cruz was a citizen at birth in accordance with the natural law principle of jus sanguinis?

41 posted on 05/06/2013 7:35:24 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Making Cruz ineligible while maintaining Obama’s eligibility would be a task that even the liberal logical contortionists couldn’t perform. And declaring Obama ineligible ex post facto would undo every action he performed as an illegal president. That would lead, for starters, to the end of Obamacare, and the removal of some very liberal judges, two of whom are on the Supreme Court.

Hmm, a “Cruz Gambit”, that could be interesting...


42 posted on 05/06/2013 7:37:19 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: bgill

He not eligible because he’s not a NBC so why do they keep bringing it up? Interesting how the msm is getting antsy about Cruz this far out when they totally ignored hussein’s lack of eligibility.

Because they are scared shiftless about Cruz, he seems to be for the moment immune to “potomac fever”...


43 posted on 05/06/2013 7:37:57 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: RWGinger

First governor of Texas, then President of the US.


44 posted on 05/06/2013 7:38:16 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Perdogg

Ummm, I believe that the law was changed since the ‘60s....so as to make anyone, born anywhere....to one parent who is a citizen, considered a “natural born citizen.”

Where it gets fuzzy, is that the only place (again, I believe) in federal law where being a “natural born” citizen matters is for candidates of the presidency.

If I recall, one of the issues with Mr. Obama’s birth is that in 1961, at his birth, the law required a natural born citizen required one to be born within US territory—hence the frenzy to prove he was born in Hawaii (and the frenzy by opponents to try to prove he was born elsewhere). Since federal law NOW though, doesn’t require an in-country birth, but only one citizen as a parent....it gets murky.

(Of course the other issue the Birthers clamp onto is whether the young Obama lost his citizenship, when he was adopted by his Indonesian step-father...and how, if he was a US Citizen...with a US passport, he traveled to Pakistan in the ‘80s when that was illegal by US law AND Pakistani law).

All in all though, the elites in our government and courts—have decided that Mr. Obama’s natural born status is a technicality, and they will not enforce such a small law, which is arguable....since it would mean a constitutional crises.

What we REALLY need to do though, is not to worry about the fantasy of forcing him out due to his birth status...rather to make sure the House is held by the Repubs in ‘14, or else we really could face a real constitutional crises, should Obama and the Dems hold unfettered power....


45 posted on 05/06/2013 7:38:32 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: silverleaf

My question is pointed to Cruz’s parents, so there.


46 posted on 05/06/2013 7:41:06 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: allmendream

There are three possible issues bearing on whether a person is NBC.

A. Born on US soil.

B. One parent a US citizen.

C. Both parents US citizens.

A, B and C: Everybody agrees NBC.

A only: I think NBC, but questionable, should be settled by SCOTUS.

A and B: IMO natural born. This is Obama.

C only: This is Cruz. Born outside US to one citizen parent. Should be settled by SCOTUS, IMO. In any case, he has less definitive claim to NBC than Obama.

C only: This arguably applied to McCain. Should be settled by SCOTUS, IMO.


47 posted on 05/06/2013 7:42:36 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: allmendream

Cruz is a statutory citizen. His citizenship is described in the Immigration and Naturalization Act, as amended. You can’t be NBC and derive your citizenship status from an Immigration law.


48 posted on 05/06/2013 7:42:36 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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To: Perdogg

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

My great great grandfather was born in Canada...Grantham/St Catherines, Ontario...

His mother was an American born in the US of American parents, Vermont...

His father was born in Canada of American parents and grandparents...New Rochelle, NY and Herkimer County..

Yeppers he must have been eligible to be POTUS...


49 posted on 05/06/2013 7:44:31 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: allmendream; bgill

Cruz would be a citizen "by statute", just like John McCain who required an act by congress to attempt legitimacy of his questionably constitutional White House run.


50 posted on 05/06/2013 7:45:16 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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