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Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks
CBS News ^ | Monday May 6, 2013

Posted on 05/06/2013 9:43:29 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

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1 posted on 05/06/2013 9:43:29 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

I believe General Ham was about to thwart this stand-down order and was relieved of his command by a traitor. He needs to be called to testify.


2 posted on 05/06/2013 9:47:45 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

Agreed.


3 posted on 05/06/2013 9:48:06 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Bigtigermike

The undocumented fraud was getting high before
some fundraising and arming terrorists in Mexico.

He was too busy.


4 posted on 05/06/2013 9:48:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Bigtigermike; MestaMachine; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; justa-hairyape; onyx; SunkenCiv; ...

This is a Bigie!


5 posted on 05/06/2013 9:48:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: .45 Long Colt

Look at this from the interview of Hicks:

Q : They didn’t miss the flight. They were told not to board the flight.

A: They were told not to board the flight, so they missed it. So, anyway, and yeah. I still remember Colonel Gibson, he said, “I have never been so embarrassed in my life that a State Department officer has bigger balls than somebody in the military.” A nice compliment.

Q: Now, at this point, are you having communications with Washington?

A: I was in communications with Washington all night long. I was reporting all night long what was happening to Washington by telephone.

Q: When these Special Forces folks were told essentially to stand down, what was your next move? Did you have a recourse? Were you able to call Washington? Were you able to call anyone at this point to get that decision reversed?

A: No, because the flight was — the flight was leaving. And, you know, if they missed — you know, if the vehicles didn’t leave when they leave, they would miss the flight time at the airport. And the airport — you know, we were going all the way to Mitiga. The C-130 is at Mitiga, which is all the way on the other side of Tripoli.

Q: What was the rationale that you were given that they couldn’t go, ultimately?

A: I guess they just didn’t have the right authority from the right people.


6 posted on 05/06/2013 9:49:22 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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>> The account from Gregory Hicks is in stark contrast to assertions from the Obama administration

“Stand down” (let them die...)

Dereliction of duty.


7 posted on 05/06/2013 9:51:15 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Call General Ham to testify!


8 posted on 05/06/2013 9:52:04 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Bigtigermike

2014, Take the Senate & Impeach Obama in 2015 !


9 posted on 05/06/2013 9:52:11 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Bigtigermike

10 posted on 05/06/2013 9:54:29 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You can't force people to care.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Wow. Looks like See-BS is FINALLY “seeing the BS”.

Maybe thye feel it is more important to inculpate Hillary and save the “One” from a tarnished reputation, even at the potential loss of the Whtie House in 2016.

After all, they will still have 3 years to build her up again and tear down anyone we geet to challenge her.


11 posted on 05/06/2013 9:54:32 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: Bigtigermike

Think about this — they had to know this order to stand down might get out and how it would look if it did, yet they were willing to take that risk. Why? Was it all politics or was it something more sinister?


12 posted on 05/06/2013 9:55:20 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

I believe General Ham was about to thwart this stand-down order and was relieved of his command by a traitor. He needs to be called to testify.

Yeah, the person who relived him opf his command has a LOT of blood on his hand and the person who ordered him to relive him of command has a lot of blood as well to...


13 posted on 05/06/2013 9:58:24 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Bigtigermike
At the ceremony when the four bodies were returned to the USA, didn't the hilldabeast look them in the eye and tell one of the families of those she had left to be slaughtered that she wouldn't rest until those responsible were brought to justice and then go on to speak of the anti-islam video?

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14 posted on 05/06/2013 9:58:41 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Bigtigermike
King Obama is a total destructive jackass installing empty fools like Clinton as SOS. His total empire is made up of the same incompetency. Impeach
15 posted on 05/06/2013 9:58:54 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is a Bigie!

Bless your heart.

16 posted on 05/06/2013 9:59:52 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Elle Bee
At the ceremony when the four bodies were returned to the USA, didn't the hilldabeast look them in the eye and tell one of the families of those she had left to be slaughtered that she wouldn't rest until those responsible were brought to justice and then go on to speak of the anti-islam video?

What difference does it make?

17 posted on 05/06/2013 10:00:44 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Bigtigermike
At the ceremony when the four bodies were returned to the USA, didn't the hilldabeast look them in the eye and tell one of the families of those she had left to be slaughtered that she wouldn't rest until those responsible were brought to justice and then go on to speak of the anti-islam video?

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18 posted on 05/06/2013 10:01:17 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

My comment wasn’t clear, I was calling for Gen. Ham to testify. The traitor should be tried.

That’s what I get for Freeping on my iPad in a restaurant.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 10:03:01 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Bigtigermike
"Obama administration officials have insisted that no military resources could have made it in time"

ONE F/A-18 COULD'VE STOPPED THE ATTACK ON THE ANNEX.

The other question is, was an AC130 gunship overhead Benghazi or not?

"One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not "paint" a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station."

Source: http://www.blackfive.net/main/2012/10/bigger-than-watergate-proof-that-the-president-is-lying-about-benghazi.html

20 posted on 05/06/2013 10:05:38 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Bigtigermike

Has the individual that actually gave that command to Gibson made a statement?


21 posted on 05/06/2013 10:06:25 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Bigtigermike

King Obama will not be taking any questions from the press moving forward...


22 posted on 05/06/2013 10:08:21 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Bigtigermike

What are Obama and Clinton covering up that is so heinous that they were willing to leave the whole Benghazi staff - forty or so people - to die?

That they didn’t all die is due only to the heroism of a few who defied orders to render aid. Those few paid with their lives with Obama and Clinton lying over their flag-draped coffins on national tv.


23 posted on 05/06/2013 10:09:07 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything + 969)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Dear Shillary: What difference would it make if you just quietly left public life and took what’s his name with you?


24 posted on 05/06/2013 10:09:15 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: All
Lest we forget:

Washington Times: The Robins Report: Is a General losing his job over Benghazi? [General Ham]

Maybe retired General Ham should be called as a technical witness in the Congressional Hearings on Benghazi-Gate.

I would like to hear what retired General Ham has to say about Benghazi -- even if it is his personal opinion...

25 posted on 05/06/2013 10:10:34 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Curiouser and Curiouser.


26 posted on 05/06/2013 10:12:56 AM PDT by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: .45 Long Colt
Ham..." needs to be called to testify." and Clinton needs to be recalled...to address her obvious obfuscations that happened on her watch.
27 posted on 05/06/2013 10:16:08 AM PDT by yoe
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Yes. We need all these people under oath - with truth serum if necessary - and we need all the records.


28 posted on 05/06/2013 10:19:00 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Bigtigermike
We can dream -

In an earlier American epoch, this would be billed as the fight of the century, a Thunderdome - 2 enter but only one returns.

Who will survive? Hillary Clinton or the President of the United States . . my money is on Hillary - she's got a future - Obama is so 2008

" there is a cancer on the presidency . . .

29 posted on 05/06/2013 10:20:00 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: Bigtigermike

Question:

Does anyone know what the current status is of the film maker who was blamed for all of this?

I recall he was taken into custody on some trumped up charge. Poor bastard get released?


30 posted on 05/06/2013 10:20:04 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Bigtigermike

I hope this brings Obama down....in my heart I know it won ‘t...but one can pray...


31 posted on 05/06/2013 10:20:15 AM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: .45 Long Colt
I really do believe that the number one concern for team 0bama was getting re-elected. They, and their co-conspirator news media agreed to bury this story and they only needed to do so for 8 weeks until the Nov. 6th election. THEY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER NOV. 6TH, BECAUSE THEY'D GET THEIR ELECTION VICTORY AND THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERED TO THEM.

Why didn't 0bama attempt a rescue? He was deathly afraid that a Carter-like failed rescue (Iran hostage crisis botched rescue) negatively impact his re-election as it did Carter, then Reagan won. It would be easier to simply bury the entire event for 8 lousy weeks. Also, a rescue by 0bama would be admission that he was WRONG about Al Qaeda and the WOT!

One of the biggest culprits in this entire affair is the STINKING news media!

32 posted on 05/06/2013 10:20:16 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Bigtigermike

It was September 11.....come on...nobody got a brain?


33 posted on 05/06/2013 10:21:50 AM PDT by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Simply couldn’t risk losing the election. Nothing else mattered.


34 posted on 05/06/2013 10:24:35 AM PDT by pghoilman (Earth First. We'll drill the rest of the galaxy later.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

But Obama could have had the SpecOps go in, and he and the military could have been the big heroes. If he just wanted a boost he could have done that. Especially since the government that we helped install was actually willing to tell the truth immediately - that this was a terrorist attack. Obama could even have said, “See? The regime we helped install is with us in the war on terror!”

No, I think there had to have been something more going on there. They planned this far in advance - preparing the video to be used as an excuse, refusing security to make sure this could happen, etc.


35 posted on 05/06/2013 10:26:35 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Popman

I kind of agree with you but in reality we’re stuck with Barry 0 for another 3 years, who I hope it destroys is Shrillary “What Does It Matter” Clintoon. .


36 posted on 05/06/2013 10:26:54 AM PDT by rhubarbk (It's official, I'm suffering from Obama fatigue!)
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To: stuartcr
The person that actually gave the command will claim executive privilege

Obama's last statement that night was reportedly "well, do what you have to do . .

If this is true it likely means do what you have to do but I insist on plausible deniability.

My hero /sarc

37 posted on 05/06/2013 10:28:10 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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Speaking of Shrillary, has anyone noticed that after “fall” and hospital stay she doesn’t look like she did before those events? Could she have tripped over her plastic surgeons medical bag . . . just sayin’


38 posted on 05/06/2013 10:30:00 AM PDT by rhubarbk (It's official, I'm suffering from Obama fatigue!)
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To: Popman

We got our wish with Clinton, but nothing really changed. I don’t think anyone in DC will let the president go down.


39 posted on 05/06/2013 10:31:00 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Mr. Nakoula was sentenced to one year in prison for probation violation, starting November 2012.

Robert Dugdale was one of the U.S. attorneys prosecuting Mr. Nakoula. He said "“His deception actually caused real harm to people."..

WTF? Didn't the 0bama administration LYING about the video as cause for the attack cause harm to the filmmaker and his family???? Who's going to be prosecuted for THAT?

40 posted on 05/06/2013 10:32:11 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: .45 Long Colt

“Think about this — they had to know this order to stand down might get out and how it would look if it did, yet they were willing to take that risk. Why? Was it all politics or was it something more sinister?”

If Stevens got out alive, Obama was done for. Stevens not getting ou alive ensured Obamas win over Romney.

This whole mess was to ensure Obama was reelected. Nothing more, nothing less.


41 posted on 05/06/2013 10:32:12 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
EY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER NOV. 6TH, BECAUSE THEY'D GET THEIR ELECTION VICTORY AND THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERED TO THEM.

Agreed.

Before the election, it meant Romney as President, and possibly a GOP Senate.

After the election, the worst case was Biden as President, still keeping the White House in Democrat hands.

-PJ

42 posted on 05/06/2013 10:33:31 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Would someone please explain what this “ missing the plane” comments are all about??..
Was it some scheduled airline????(doubt it)
Wouldn’t a military C-130 Wait ??


43 posted on 05/06/2013 10:36:01 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: butterdezillion

I tend to agree with you. It may well be the response was purely about the election and their naïveté (the view Rush is touting as I type), but I’m not convinced. I suspect there was/is something far more devastating they want to keep hidden. They knew when they refused aid that 30-40 Americans might die. That seems a much bigger risk politically. So I have to believe 30-40 deaths was preferable to the truth.


44 posted on 05/06/2013 10:37:29 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Bigtigermike

May God Bless these brave people who testify. They stand for America and may our committee in Congress do the right thing for America. They must stand up.


45 posted on 05/06/2013 10:41:09 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Logical me

“King Obama is a total destructive jackass installing empty fools like Clinton as SOS. His total empire is made up of the same incompetency. Impeach “

Evil Empire. Stevens and his men were deliberately thrown under the bus for some reason (perhaps weren’t fully on board with illegal gun smuggling to Syrian rebels including al qaeda?).

Hillary deliberately deprived Stevens of effective security. The end result was entirely predictable.

Impeach osama obama.


46 posted on 05/06/2013 10:43:22 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: .45 Long Colt

And if the goal was to not have an example of terrorism in front of everybody’s eyes - to keep the “the war on terror is over” meme going - they would not have denied security like that or prepared the video to be used as an excuse but would have instead tried to prevent the attack from happening in the first place. It seems like there was advance planning for this. Whether it was over the blind sheik, weapons running, or something else I don’t know. But it seems like they were compelled by something they considered bigger than the lives at stake.

The war on terror being over was already going to be botched by Zawahiri’s call for revenge attacks on the terrorist from Libya who had been killed, and the turmoil going on in Cairo at the same time.

No, I think somebody had them over a barrel and they couldn’t just do what should be SOP: prevent terrorist attacks.


47 posted on 05/06/2013 10:43:54 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Unless they only intended for Stevens to be taken hostage...


48 posted on 05/06/2013 10:45:04 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Paine in the Neck
What are Obama and Clinton covering up that is so heinous that they were willing to leave the whole Benghazi staff - forty or so people - to die?

Their butts!

I'm serious. These people are evil. But they are also monumentally incompetent. It is easy to destroy things, especially when you are protected by layers of fellow travelers and the MSM. But creating, maintaining, and protecting is hard. It takes moral integrity, vision, and dedication. And it requires the wisdom of years of development coupled with the will to act. Neither Obama nor Hillary possess any of these. So, when the hard situation arises, when the call comes in at 3:00 a.m., they freeze. They cannot make the hard decisions because they are moral cowards.

Benghazi exposed their moral cowardice to the world. It also exposed their treason. So they immediately went into full butt-cover mode. And why not? It has always worked for them! They have never been held accountable. Their lesson learned is that all they have to do to survive and thrive is lie, stonewall, and destroy evidence until people forget.

But their Benghazi lies are being exposed. Their stonewalling is falling apart. And the evidence could not be destroyed. So their heinous butts are still on the line. It's really that simple.

I have no doubt that all sorts of other treasonous activities were afoot in the area at their behest. Likely these activities will also be exposed. But their failure to protect and defend Benghazi is the smoking gun of treason. They know it. And they fear We The People are coming for them.

49 posted on 05/06/2013 10:46:20 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Bigtigermike
Full Coverage in The Boston Globe Workers Circle
50 posted on 05/06/2013 10:49:26 AM PDT by pabianice
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