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Diplomat: U.S. Special Forces told "you can't go" to Benghazi during attacks
CBS News ^ | Monday May 6, 2013

Posted on 05/06/2013 9:43:29 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

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To: butterdezillion

Right, we are thinking along the same lines.


51 posted on 05/06/2013 10:51:40 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Bigtigermike
Somebody gave the order. There aren't very many possibilities. It's infuriating enough that the order was given but people, especially amateurs, do make mistakes in combat situations. Now, however, just as during the Nixon administration, we have a cover-up that will expose somebody far more than the decision ever did.

Their only choice is to stonewall, delay, distract, and hope that the whole thing fades away. If any combination of corrupt administration and partisan media could pull it off, this is the time.

52 posted on 05/06/2013 10:52:18 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Paine in the Neck

“What are Obama and Clinton covering up that is so heinous that they were willing to leave the whole Benghazi staff - forty or so people - to die?”

I have asked a similiar question many times. What are they covering up that was more important than Obama using a golden campaign opportunity, maybe the greatest American political moment of all time. A real time rerun of the BinLaden raid? Situation room, Obama active in the rescue of an American ambassador, Navy Seals, testimonials from survivors, videos and photos that would have sealed his reelection. Yet, he was nowhere to be found, basically AWOL, which should tell us, there was another plan that went wrong.


53 posted on 05/06/2013 10:56:04 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: atc23

Obama’s last statement that night was reportedly “well, do what you have to do . .


That sounds about right coming from the Lady Boy in Chief.


54 posted on 05/06/2013 10:56:25 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Bigtigermike

Authorization for the military to cross borders can only be given by the president (there are probably some exceptions).

Obama’s fault.
However the media will claim that the military couldn’t have done anything anyway.


55 posted on 05/06/2013 10:56:29 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Ultimately there is one person who has the authority to order cross-boundary operations: the Commander in Chief.

We know who failed to give the proper authorization.

What we need to find out is why.


56 posted on 05/06/2013 10:59:01 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: mrsmith
Is there any doubt that the decision to not try and save these hapless servants was totally political? I mean, if the effort had become bogged down or failed to save them little barry'sregime fecklessness would have been exposed right before the election.

There is no American nor any number of Americans these criminal bastards will not sacrifice to retain their power over US. And the liar-in-chief instructs the heads full of mush graduates to not believe the regime is tyrannical ... be zar folks, be zar tot he max.

57 posted on 05/06/2013 11:04:49 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Some are saying Hillary was set up. That's bull! She is up to her eyeballs in this as well as Obama. Just look at her “what difference does it make” statement. She gives two alternate explanations. If its a youtube video or men walking by who suddenly decide to commit murder. Think about her statement. If it was either one she might be right...it would make no difference because both were spontaneous. But her contrast is false and she knew it. This was not a spontaneous action of a few passer-byes. It was a pre-planned terrorist attack that could have and should have been prevented. That's what difference it makes!
58 posted on 05/06/2013 11:07:25 AM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: Billthedrill

Oops. I responded to the wrong post.

We know that it was Obama who refused to authorize cross-border operations. What we need to find out is why. His excuse (we had nobody who could have helped) is being proven wrong.

If he was afraid of making trouble with the Libyan regime, why didn’t he just ask them to help, or ask for permission to enter airspace with an armed drone? The Libyan regime came out early on saying it was a terrorist attack, and one of the whistleblowers has said he couldn’t believe the humiliation of our State Department calling the Libyan government a liar. The Libyan regime was more honest and willing to call this what it was than our own regime. Obama could have asked the Libyan regime and they would have no option but to allow us to go in their airspace.

The people Obama seemed to be worried about were not the people in the Libyan regime, but the terrorists. Perhaps the very terrorists he was arming...

In any event, Obama has to be forced to give an answer - and one that doesn’t insult the intelligence of everybody who was there as well as the memories of those slain.

And the same process of accountability has to happen for all three issues: why was security denied in the run-up to 9-11? Why was help refused on 9-11? And why did they claim it was a video when even the Libyan government acknowledged that it was a terrorist attack (and we now know the Obama regime knew it was coming too)?

We know these people have already lied, so they now have the burden of proof, to prove that they are not lying any time they open their mouths.


59 posted on 05/06/2013 11:08:53 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

Exactly


60 posted on 05/06/2013 11:17:04 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Bigtigermike
"was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command South Africa. "

Should be "US Special Operations Command, Africa" (US SOCAFRICA), not South Africa

61 posted on 05/06/2013 11:20:05 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Approx., two and a half days to go to the big top comes to town.


62 posted on 05/06/2013 11:29:06 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Bigtigermike

Thanks for the post.


63 posted on 05/06/2013 11:30:15 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: TexasCajun

We need to do more than just impeach 0bama. We need to take down the entire progressive regime.

There, I finally said it.


64 posted on 05/06/2013 11:58:42 AM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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To: BlatherNaut

Anybody who thinks Hillary did this on her own is falling for the bait. Someday, some person is going to stop protecting Obama and letting themselves be thrown under the bus, and then suddenly even the press is going to have to admit that the man is plain evil and hates the US.

He’s not smart and he probably doesn’t even originate his own evil ideas. But he’s ruthless and ideological, yet he survives on trying to portray himself as innocent and well-meaning. He does this by creating “plausible deniability” by simply never being seen as involved in anything; that way he can claim it was all just a mistake by bungling subordinates.

Hillary is an evil witch who hates the US, but she was about the least powerful SOS we ever had (remember, Obama was always leaving her home or sending her off to the middle of nowhere whenever he had to meet with an important, usually Muslim, personage). She wouldn’t have done anything without knowing that Obama had authorized it.


65 posted on 05/06/2013 11:58:58 AM PDT by livius
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The account from Gregory Hicks is in stark contrast to assertions from the Obama administration, which insisted that nobody was ever told to stand down and that all available resources were utilized.

One more of a hundred WH lies about Benghazi.

66 posted on 05/06/2013 12:02:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Paine in the Neck
What are Obama and Clinton covering up that is so heinous that they were willing to leave the whole Benghazi staff - forty or so people - to die?

I have said from the get-go that the Ambassador was assassinated on orders from 0bama. As someone else pointed out, this should have been a shining heroic moment just before the election, instead we have a very ugly result. Nothing they have said or done on Benghazi makes any sense at all.

Now they point to al-queda etc., but I think it is much more grim than that. If it were al-queda where are the drone strikes in retaliation? We've heard nothing...nothing at all about any type of recourse.

What is so heinous that our government had to kill our own people for? That my FRiend is a darn good question.

67 posted on 05/06/2013 12:07:18 PM PDT by EBH (Warning this person is a Catholic, Tea Party Patriot, and owns a copy of Atlas Shurgged)
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THIS SOUNDS HUGE!
ANYONE ELSE SMELL IMPEACHMENT IN THE AIR???!

68 posted on 05/06/2013 12:08:28 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: Paine in the Neck; Travis McGee; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ASA Vet

“What are Obama and Clinton covering up that is so heinous that they were willing to leave the whole Benghazi staff - forty or so people - to die?”

How about a prison, which would have made staying at Gitmo look like a walk in the park. A prison filled with Islamo prisoners being questioned by Arabs, without the safety of waterboards and zippo constitutional rights.

Then, how about an weapons/arms exchange that would make Iran/Contra look like little boys playing cowboys and Indians.

Then, how about those arms including new stingers ending up in Syria/Egypt/?????

This administration is guilty of much worse than what they try to blame on the Bush Admin.


69 posted on 05/06/2013 12:24:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm afraid to go visit any American college because of all the foreign students with bombs.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Something they’re not talking about: The guys who finally did charter a jet and started flying 2 Bengazi were at first in full military garb. That fact was communicated to higher-ups during the flight and for reasons that remain unclear that garb agitated higher-ups so much that they had to LAND AND CHANGE CLOTHES.

And this change took 90 minutes WHILE the bullets were flying.

NINETY MINUTES.

Obviously there was a lot of legalism still going on, then.


70 posted on 05/06/2013 12:28:59 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Bigtigermike

Rush’s explanation:

“The biggies didn’t really WANT them to die. Rather, they consider themselves enlightened, loved, and infallible, and the notion that the Bengazi locals were NOT star-struck with the regime in the way the Beltway Crowd is simply did not occur to them —they thought the attack was just rock throwing...”

My explanation:

“There was NO Embassy or Consulate in Bengazi. There was a large facility for Libya->Turkey->Syria arms transfer, which formed the cornerstone of Obama plans for the toppling of Syria. The program was larger and more sensitive than is commonly understood, and an involved rescue might not only have failed per Desert One but surely would have brought sharper media attention on a covert program on the eve of an election. 30 more deaths at “The Farm” was an eventuality preferable to the unmasking of this sensitive operation —the higher-ups were scared and simply pulled the plug.”


71 posted on 05/06/2013 12:41:11 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: .45 Long Colt

It’s way past time for some stars, bars, and super grade GS’s to earn their pay, suck it up, and spit out how it was that they all had an overwhelming desire to sit on their hands. Even Ham, who as I recall, claimed he was about to retire anyway. We all know it’s exactly possible to trace these stand down orders to the ultimate source——and it MUST be done-——then prosecuted because it is negligence of the highest order.


72 posted on 05/06/2013 12:51:07 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: livius

Agree. Unfortunately the coverup was successful and the traitorous barack osama won a second term.

The odds of him being impeached over this (or anything else) are slim to none.

President “Hillary!” will be the next national nightmare (since we’ve now elected a black president, it is now time to elect a woman or hispanic /s). The hope is that her involvement with Benghazi will damage her politically so that she will be forced to give up her presidential aspirations.


73 posted on 05/06/2013 12:54:21 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: DakotaGator

Best dang post I have read in a while. They all should be impeached and disgraced, but the Media will run the block and Amerika is too addicted to watching the Red Sox’s, The Bears, and the Jaz. We are living in Bread and Circus’s and MillHouse Obama probably will get off scott free...


74 posted on 05/06/2013 12:55:29 PM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: gaijin

I vote for your explanation.

Syria is next on the “arab spring” hit list.


75 posted on 05/06/2013 1:03:13 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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Benghazi happened a long time ago.

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76 posted on 05/06/2013 1:13:45 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: gaijin

Where is Jack Ryan? If there were only a movie...

The situations are far too similar....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7tGEEWQIhQ


77 posted on 05/06/2013 1:16:01 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: TigersEye
How in the H**L can they make any credible reply?
78 posted on 05/06/2013 1:23:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Grampa Dave

Some new ideas ther,...the prison....Hmmm.


79 posted on 05/06/2013 1:27:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: gaijin; Grampa Dave; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye
Obama's lite footprint....

Wanted to say in the debates with Romney,....we have put no boots on the ground.

80 posted on 05/06/2013 1:31:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I don't see how they can. If "all available resources were utilized" then there would be solid records of their actions. Instead we have the Commander of AFRICOM, Gen. Ham, telling Rep. Chaffetz that the resources were available, ready to go and no one issued an order to send them.

AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. Youtube 1:43

And only one person has the authority to give that order.

81 posted on 05/06/2013 1:31:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: freekitty
May God Bless these brave people who testify. They stand for America and may our committee in Congress do the right thing for America. They must stand up.

That is what real courage looks like. Not some mediocre sports figure pronouncing his is gay in front of supporting, cheering crowds.

82 posted on 05/06/2013 1:43:17 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
How in the H**L can they make any credible reply?

The wicked truth is it doesn't even have to be credible. It just has to be a reply and the MS will buy it hook, line and sinker. - along with the low information crowd.

The next step is to vilify the accusers and make some political hay about them and destroy more on the way to scorched earth.

83 posted on 05/06/2013 1:47:51 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: BlatherNaut

I don’t think it’s going to be Hillary - I think they’re prepping Michelle for the run, and I think Hillary knows it. If she doesn’t see that it’s all over for her, she’s too stupid to cross the street unescorted, let alone run for President.

Hillary thought she was using them, but they were using her, and now they don’t need her anymore.

The only question in my mind is whether she’ll be angry enough to turn on them. I don’t think so, because for some reason I think Bill has told her not to rock the boat.


84 posted on 05/06/2013 2:05:31 PM PDT by livius
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
And so it goes.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


85 posted on 05/06/2013 2:06:00 PM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: freekitty

It would appear this group gave the administration every chance and a long time to make the story right.

They were being as loyal as they could. But it seems they will not let the lies persist. They are not moving on and letting their comrades voices fade away.

And remember there appears to be other deaths that were never reported or followed up on.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13833848-us-diplomats-marine-rescue-team-were-also-attacked-at-safe-house-libyans-say?lite

“Of the eight American troops who had come from Tripoli, one was killed and two were wounded, Obeidi said. A Libyan deputy interior minister said a second American was also killed in the attack on the safe house. It was not clear if this was a diplomat or one of the consulate’s original security detail.”

Are there other deaths that were covered up?


86 posted on 05/06/2013 2:22:05 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: bluecat6

I don’t know.


87 posted on 05/06/2013 2:27:42 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Bigtigermike

Reading these stories is making me physically sick to my stomach. That our ‘leaders’ would let Americans who answered their nation’s call just be slaughtered, not only without help sent their way, but with help pulled back and forbidden to give the aid needed.

We all know military and foreign service personnel, some are family, who go willingly into harm’s way. We always know of the danger and that there is the possibility that they won’t return from their latest mission. But we do NOT expect them to be left to die at the hands of our enemy, while our POTUS goes to sleep for his pre-fundraising beauty rest.

All of this is inexcusable from our POTUS, SoS, SecDef, the whole damned lot of them.


88 posted on 05/06/2013 2:33:44 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Filthy politicians in their worst form.


89 posted on 05/06/2013 2:42:14 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: bluecat6

Other deaths,....news to me.


90 posted on 05/06/2013 2:52:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: EDINVA
I am not surprised.....what's a few bodies to gain and hold power for the far leftists....

They don't worry about any body count.

Read Horoiwitz's book,....Unholy alliance.

91 posted on 05/06/2013 2:55:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Still in jail from what I heard. He was naughty. There was a wire fraud conviction for which he was on Probation, and one of the terms of release was to stay off the interwebs. It made for a convenient rationale to snatch him, but he’d be free now except for the priors.

I don’t have a lot of sympathy for him.


92 posted on 05/06/2013 2:55:34 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: livius
I think they’re prepping Michelle for the run

Well, in the stupid political world we live in, anything is possible, but that being said, even hillary (and zero) felt the need to spend some time as senators. Michelle is a political lightweight. It would be an incredible precedent to elect someone as blatantly unqualified as michelle. The hillaryites in the dem party believe that they've been patient for long enough and now it's their turn. Imagine the civil war that would ensue in the democrat party if michelle ran for the nomination against hillary, lol!

93 posted on 05/06/2013 3:15:59 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: atc23
" there is a cancer on the presidency . . .

No, this presidency is a cancer.

94 posted on 05/06/2013 3:26:21 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BlatherNaut

But Michelle would be a twofer...


95 posted on 05/06/2013 3:31:48 PM PDT by livius
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To: .45 Long Colt
"I believe General Ham was about to thwart this stand-down order and was relieved of his command by a traitor. He needs to be called to testify."

Amen!

96 posted on 05/06/2013 3:32:36 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Some new ideas ther,...the prison....Hmmm.”

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/12/fox-news-source-yes-the-cia-was-holding-prisoners-at-the-benghazi-annex/

Just a single source, but this does jibe with what Broadwell said in her Denver speech.

In the original Oct. 26 Fox News report, sources at the annex said that the CIA’s Global Response Staff had handed over three Libyan militia members to the Libyan authorities who came to rescue the 30 Americans in the early hours of Sept. 12.

A well-placed Washington source confirms to Fox News that there were Libyan militiamen being held at the CIA annex in Benghazi and that their presence was being looked at as a possible motive for the staged attack on the consulate and annex that night.

According to multiple intelligence sources who have served in Benghazi, there were more than just Libyan militia members who were held and interrogated by CIA contractors at the CIA annex in the days prior to the attack. Other prisoners from additional countries in Africa and the Middle East were brought to this location.

The Libya annex was the largest CIA station in North Africa, and two weeks prior to the attack, the CIA was preparing to shut it down. Most prisoners, according to British and American intelligence sources, had been moved two weeks earlier.

Two separate questions here. One: Is the CIA still operating secret prisons and, if so, how are they questioning their prisoners? Enhanced interrogation is the only part of the Bush counterterror playbook that O hasn’t adopted, or so we’ve assumed. We’ll see. Two: Did Ansar al-Sharia and its partners in jihad find out about the prisoners and attack the annex on 9/11 to try to free them? I’m thinking … probably not, for the reasons Ed gave this morning. If they thought there were prisoners at the annex, why’d they attack the consulate first and give up the advantage of surprise? The attack on the consulate wasn’t a diversion, either: According to the CIA’s timeline, the first attack at the annex didn’t happen until 11:56 p.m., more than two hours after the consulate attack had begun and after the CIA security team had already returned from the consulate to the annex. That makes it sound like the jihadis tailed the CIA’s people back to the annex; if they were planning an ambush to free prisoners, they should have had people pre-positioned there to move in as soon as they saw the CIA security team leave for the consulate earlier in the evening. And again, per Ed, if you were going to hold prisoners somewhere in the Middle East, why on earth would you choose a city as unstable as Benghazi?

Besides, the timeline of the Petraeus/Broadwell affair is hard to square with the idea of her being privy to secret info about Benghazi. Quote:

The affair between Gen. Petraeus and Broadwell, both of whom are married, began several months after his retirement from the army in August 2011 and ended four months ago, retired U.S. Army Col. Steve Boylan, who is a former Petraeus spokesperson, told ABC News…

Petraeus is said to have been the one to have broken off the extramarital affair.

If — if — all of that is accurate, then it sounds like Petraeus dumped Broadwell sometime in July and, given what we now know about those threatening e-mails that she sent to another woman, she probably didn’t take the news all that well. In which case, why would he still be sharing secrets with her two months later, after the Benghazi attack? Was Broadwell really revealing classified info in her Denver speech or was she just misremembering a report from earlier that day on Fox News? She did, reportedly, have classified documents on her computer, but both she and Petraeus claimed they didn’t come from him. And in fact, because of her background in the military, Broadwell allegedly had “a top secret/SCI clearance and then some.” She might have had access to info about Benghazi, and classified documents about whatever, from her contacts in the national security bureaucracy, entirely independent of Petraeus.

But maybe that timeline isn’t accurate. Petraeus’s allies might be keen to claim that the affair didn’t start until after he’d left the military because adultery is an infraction of the UCMJ. If the affair began while he was still in uniform, it’s not only a moral failing but potentially a legal issue.

Now, help me answer three questions. First, why did the FBI pursue its investigation of the cyber-harassment of Jill Kelley all the way back to Petraeus? My understanding from reading a bunch of stories this morning is that Kelley reported the harassment, the FBI quickly launched an investigation (no one’s sure why it was such a priority for them but maybe it has to do with Kelley’s JSOC connection), and they traced the harassing e-mails back to Broadwell. But they didn’t stop there; evidently they started digging around to see who was e-mailing Broadwell too, and they traced that back to a pseudonymous Gmail account operated by Petraeus. Er … why did they do that? Once they knew who the cyber-harasser was, why was it necessary to keep digging and piece out the entire love triangle? They’d found their suspect.

Second, why is Jill Kelley suddenly hiring some very expensive attorneys? Not only hasn’t she been accused of anything — not even an affair with Petraeus — but Petraeus and Broadwell aren’t being charged with any crimes either. Second look at what Broadwell’s father told the Daily News this morning?

Third, I have a post up in the Greenroom noting that Petraeus and Broadwell seemed conspicuously “together” as early as 2010, with even Mrs. Petraeus likely becoming aware of it before last Friday. John Brennan, Obama’s White House counterterror czar, allegedly learned of the affair in summer 2011 — before Petraeus was named the new CIA chief. That being so, how were Obama and James Clapper supposedly kept in the dark until last week? The One should be spitting mad that he wasn’t kept fully informed about potential liabilities of one of the most sensitive hires he’ll make as president. In theory, Petraeus could have been blackmailed or hacked or otherwise compromised, with catastrophic consequences for national security and O’s presidential legacy — and yet the FBI kept things hush-hush, even from their boss, until just a few days ago. Why? Here’s Scarborough and Peter King wondering. Key bit at 4:00.


97 posted on 05/06/2013 3:32:43 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm afraid to go visit any American college because of all the foreign students with bombs.)
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To: Elle Bee
" didn't the hilldabeast look them in the eye and tell one of the families of those she had left to be slaughtered that she wouldn't rest until those responsible were brought to justice and then go on to speak of the anti-islam video?"

Yes: Slain SEAL’s Father: Clinton Promised to Prosecute YouTube Filmmaker for Benghazi Attack

98 posted on 05/06/2013 3:43:16 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: taildragger
Your: We are living in Bread and Circus’s and MillHouse Obama probably will get off scott free...

Regrettably, concur

Even should the House impeach, Senate Democrats would never remove a fellow Democrat. They are all about protecting their own instead of protecting the Constitution.

Keep catching the 3 wire!

99 posted on 05/06/2013 5:17:52 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

...and Hillary in as VP.


100 posted on 05/06/2013 6:26:23 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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