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Who lost Texas and Kansas and Missouri and 30-some other states?
The Hill ^ | 05/06/13 10:32 AM ET | Bernie Quigley

Posted on 05/06/2013 7:20:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Raising the bar on glib, even for the Eloi at The Washington Post, former Post reporter Thomas E. Ricks includes Texas as one of the newspaper's “things to toss out” this year, along with flip-flops and Ben Bernanke.

“For decades, Texans have been clamoring about leaving the Union,” he writes. “Letting the Lone Star State secede would set a bad precedent. (See the Civil War of 1861 to 1865.) But what about expelling it instead? There is promise in that.”

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KEYWORDS: expel; kansas; secede; texas
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Idiot Journalist?

I want no part of Secession, I want it all back and the ComDems out of on their A$$.

1 posted on 05/06/2013 7:20:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
Good to see them talking about Kansas Too!

Goes to show we in the Sunflower state have hit a nerve.

2 posted on 05/06/2013 7:22:41 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Texas Fossil

Sam Houston was one of the wisest men ever to get thrown out of the governorship of Texas.


3 posted on 05/06/2013 7:23:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Texas Fossil

What’s the chance of Washington “expelling” Texas when so much energy and economic activity comes from there?


4 posted on 05/06/2013 7:23:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: KC_Lion

Yep. DC is in for an education.


5 posted on 05/06/2013 7:25:41 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
The people who want to live under the Constitution are the ones who should stay. The ones who don’t should go. No use having red states secede and then ask the blue states if they can have the Constitution because they aren’t using it.
6 posted on 05/06/2013 7:26:15 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: cripplecreek

Yes he was. He refused to take Texas out of the Union during the Civil War. Was ostracized for it and went to live with the Indians in OK.

After the CW he looked much wiser. But the state grew rapidly after the Occupation of the Deep South during Reconstruction.

They went GTT.


7 posted on 05/06/2013 7:28:01 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

“Only please, Brer Fox, please don’t throw me into the briar patch.”


8 posted on 05/06/2013 7:28:27 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, they would miss us. And if 30 states went with TX who would pay for the socialist welfare state?

NE would have to live in their own fowl nest.


9 posted on 05/06/2013 7:29:25 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: rockrr

Bump!


10 posted on 05/06/2013 7:30:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

let them have the blue counties... and we’ll take the red ones

oh... and they’ll have to pay an impact fee to cross the red counties, as their presence would increase the likelihood of crime

(if you tax it... you have less of it...)


11 posted on 05/06/2013 7:32:40 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Vince Ferrer

We once had free states and slave states (based on race). Then the CW ended that? Or did it.

Now we still have free states and slave states, but this time it is Universal Slavery to the Nanny State.

Can the nation long endure the presence of Free States and Universal Slave States?

The last conflict over slavery was settled by war, how will this one be settled?


12 posted on 05/06/2013 7:34:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I think a lot of us both north and south feel the same way about states rights and preservation of the union. They don’t need to be mutually exclusive.

At this point I think Obama would like nothing more than to see America split up into multiple bite sized pieces.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 7:35:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

The Northeast has always had it in for Texas, Way back when Bobby Kennedy was apologizing to the Mexicans for the Mexican War. Now Obama goes to Mexico and apologizing for her imposing our sovereignty on” Aztlan.” which the Mexican still think is theirs.


14 posted on 05/06/2013 7:42:33 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Texas Fossil

Sam Houston once wrote a letter to Andrew Jackson in which he said that Texas can survive without the United States but the United States cannot survive without Texas. It’s still true after 175 years.


15 posted on 05/06/2013 7:43:49 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Lord, confuse the wicked, confound their words, for I see violence and strife in the city.Psalms55:9)
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To: Texas Fossil

Red states should secede, allow time for the patriots to find their way there from the blue areas (and the lefties to find their way to the blue areas), then invade the blue states.


16 posted on 05/06/2013 7:52:52 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Texas Fossil

Secession may be the only option. The idiots who keep putting liberals in office aren’t going to go away and they are not going to suddenly change their minds and become conservatives because being a conservative requires that you become knowledgeable about issues and get your information from somewhere other than Oprah and Ellen.


17 posted on 05/06/2013 7:53:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Even more true after 175 years.


18 posted on 05/06/2013 7:59:11 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I’d settle for secession... except I’m a Yankee. TAKE ME WITH YOU!!!!


19 posted on 05/06/2013 8:00:33 PM PDT by dangus (Poverty cannot be eradicated as long as the poor remain dependent on the state - Pope Francis)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed.

I dream every night of seeing Obozo removed from the White Hut in handcuffs.

It has been so since his first inauguration.


20 posted on 05/06/2013 8:00:40 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: dangus

Let’s do one better and defeat the ComDems. Then Charge, Try, Convict, Sentence, Punish the Traitors and Criminals among them.

I want no part of secession. I want it all back and the ComDems out of office forever.


21 posted on 05/06/2013 8:03:00 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: dangus

Let me remind you:

One of my ancestors was born in Texas during The Republic, but..

Texas is not where you were born, but a State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.


22 posted on 05/06/2013 8:04:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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23 posted on 05/06/2013 8:08:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I love my state.

I am a 5th generation Texan.

But make no mistake, Texas is changing rapidly and is well underway to go the way of California in our lifetimes.

Liberals are pouring into this Texas at breakneck speed and are bringing all their liberal ideas with them. They have taken root in Austin and Houston and are spreading outward from those cities like a plague.

24 posted on 05/06/2013 8:11:46 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

‘Like’ a plague? FRiend they ARE PLAGUE itself.


25 posted on 05/06/2013 8:12:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Texas Fossil
But what about expelling it instead? There is promise in that.”

But here is his error: “Texans have that Lone Star flag all set,” he says. “I think they’re ready to fly solo and lonely once again. Let them go.”

From your lips to The Lord's Golden Ears Tommy boy...

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26 posted on 05/06/2013 8:15:59 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

If it happened, we would not be lonely. 25-30 states would go with us. hee hee hee


27 posted on 05/06/2013 8:23:27 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Agree.


28 posted on 05/06/2013 8:43:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: TLI

expel Texas? DO IT, PLEASE I BEG YOU. DOOOOO ITTT.


29 posted on 05/06/2013 9:28:23 PM PDT by Texas Patriot61 (Gun control is being able to hit your target.)
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To: KC_Lion

Yes, we “sunflower” independent types, clinging to our God and our guns, so sicken Marxists, until they can “pry them from our cold, dead hands,” they’ve no use for us at all!


30 posted on 05/06/2013 9:38:35 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Texas Fossil
Yes, they did do much better during that time.

On my father's side from VA, headed out to MO for a time, some of the sons headed off to both TX and OK, others hung out in KS and we are still in the area.

31 posted on 05/06/2013 9:43:21 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

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32 posted on 05/06/2013 9:53:02 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer was contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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To: Texas Fossil
Yep, they would miss us. And if 30 states went with TX who would pay for the socialist welfare state?

Their worldview will never let them admit they need private industry. In their eyes, corporations don't create wealth, they steal it.

33 posted on 05/06/2013 10:02:25 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Texas Fossil

Well done.


34 posted on 05/06/2013 10:29:17 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: Texas Fossil

Texas would have to fend off millions trying to move there from liberal states were it to secede.

But it’s moot. Washington would never put up with the loss of tax revenue out of Texas without a war. Nor would it tolerate another nation located so close to the mouth of the Mississippi river. Look at a map of east Texas and the distance from New Orleans. The Mississippi river system is the largest system of connected navigable waters in the world. And it connects the American midwest to the rest of the world.


35 posted on 05/06/2013 11:30:54 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

Many of the borders of Texas are rivers. Those are easy to defend. A few road blocks and immigration check stations.

I am getting ready to move to the Bahamas Look at the immigration requirements there. It is difficult to become a citizen even of you marry a Bahamian


36 posted on 05/07/2013 1:17:52 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: KC_Lion
In part they're refering to this book: "What happened to Kansas" by liberal hand-wringer Thomas Frank. Frank's big idea is that the evil right-wingers have magically forced people to ignore their own interests in a marxian false consciousness deal. In Frank's world, the middle class's interest is to expand welfare benefits into the middle class. If you are middle class and you oppose this, you suffer from false consciousness.
37 posted on 05/07/2013 4:21:15 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I agree with you. We are well on our way to turning “blue”.


38 posted on 05/07/2013 5:08:46 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Notice the lib isn’t about letting people do something voluntarily - “allowing” secession is “out”, but “expelling” is “in”.

Shows a lot about the lib mentality right there.


39 posted on 05/07/2013 5:11:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Firm application of the “supremacy” of the 10th amendment would be a de facto secession.

If the fedgov were only able to exercise Art I Sec 8 powers and the states did not allow, under penalty of arrest, any other powers to be exercised,

it would be a de facto secession. There isn’t much the fedgov is legitimately authorized to do.


40 posted on 05/07/2013 5:13:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Texas Fossil

Kansas and South Carolina will be made an example, they are defying the Feds by making laws against Obamacare and gun control.

The real war will be all about supremacy, it will be a race to establish supremacy on both sides.

We The People defy the Federal Supremacy.


41 posted on 05/07/2013 5:13:28 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors.)
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To: ModelBreaker

Like I said, if TX were to go, it would not be alone. LA & MS would be a part of that.

But Texas will not go, but it is time to reign in a Rogue Fed Gov and punish those who are destroying the nation. This is not the time for division, but a time to stand together. ComDems excluded.


42 posted on 05/07/2013 5:17:43 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
I'm am an enthusiastic...in fact,an almost fanatical...supporter of secession.Let the "blue" states (should be "red" because it's always been the color of the left) print all the EBT cards and SSDI checks.Let them annex Mexico as one of their states.Let them legalize marriage between 10 humans,12 barn yard animals and a house plant.Include me out.I'll move to NC,GA or TN.We'll take the farmlands of the Midwest (most of it at least) and the oil of TX,OK,AK and ND.They can have Newark...Detroit...and Malibu.

I'm as serious as a heart attack,boys and girls.

43 posted on 05/07/2013 5:25:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: zerosix; KC_Lion

Are you both from Western KS?

I worked for a company in KS (outside of KS City) for almost 15 years years. At one point I traveled 14 states for them. There is a big cultural divide within KS. The western part of the state is largely agricultural and ranching and extremely independent indeed. There are some places in western KS that outsiders are best advised to not ask too many questions about the locals. (Posse Comitatus)

I always felt welcome in that part of KS. Most of the eastern part of the state was like that too, when you got outside the cities.

There is a general dislike in “some” parts of KS for all things about TX. The AG area is an exception.

I have bought seed from K State several times and they were always nice people to deal with. It has changed somewhat since they partnered with Agra Pro (Syngenta). I have not done business with them since that happened. We had the same experience with TX A&M after they partnered with Agra Pro. We partnered with OK State when all that began to take place and are very happy with that relationship. It is funny how some things you do not plan actually work out to be a blessing.


44 posted on 05/07/2013 5:31:56 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Gay State Conservative
I totally understand your feelings. If we expelled the Socialist Slave States they would soon starve like the Jamestown Colony.

Detachment from reality is a fatal flaw of the Pseudo Intellectual Left.

45 posted on 05/07/2013 5:35:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Texas is changing rapidly and is well underway to go the way of California in our lifetimes.”

Data shows that Republicans have held the governorship for 26 of the past 34 years. How is that going the way of California?

Rats held the Texas governorship for 100 straight years prior to 1979. It looks like democrats no longer control the state legislature.


46 posted on 05/07/2013 5:51:32 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Texas Fossil; zerosix
I am From Eastern Kansas (Kansas City to be precise)

Though truth be told, I have only been in Western Kansas A Few Times.

Most of my out of town experiences have been in Missouri.

If you want a long, bitter cultural divide, the one between Kansas and Missouri can fill volumes.

47 posted on 05/07/2013 5:57:32 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: sergeantdave

And California was the state of Nixon and Reagan... before it suddenly flipped to what it is today.

The Texas of today... is NOTHING like the Texas of my youth, you would of had to of lived here your whole life to notice the changes.


48 posted on 05/07/2013 6:06:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: KC_Lion

Yes, I am aware of that divide.

I also spent a lot of time in MO.

MO also has the cultural divide between the AG areas and the cities. Especially Kansas City, MO.

Rush Limbaugh is from Cape Gerado, MO. He has contributed some powerful stuff to the movement to retain our freedom. (yes, he has an ego) Read years ago that his father was a Judge there.


49 posted on 05/07/2013 6:19:40 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

“Letting the Lone Star State secede would set a bad precedent. (See the Civil War of 1861 to 1865.)”

Well, it would indeed set a precedent. In the past when states wanted to sucede the central government waged war on them. (See the War of Northern Agression of 1861 to 1865.)

Letting a state withdraw in peace would certainly be a change, but one big-central-government advocates would have a hard time accepting.


50 posted on 05/07/2013 6:23:27 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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