Skip to comments.Who lost Texas — and Kansas and Missouri and 30-some other states?
Posted on 05/06/2013 7:20:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
Raising the bar on glib, even for the Eloi at The Washington Post, former Post reporter Thomas E. Ricks includes Texas as one of the newspaper's things to toss out this year, along with flip-flops and Ben Bernanke.
For decades, Texans have been clamoring about leaving the Union, he writes. Letting the Lone Star State secede would set a bad precedent. (See the Civil War of 1861 to 1865.) But what about expelling it instead? There is promise in that.
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I want no part of Secession, I want it all back and the ComDems out of on their A$$.
Goes to show we in the Sunflower state have hit a nerve.
Sam Houston was one of the wisest men ever to get thrown out of the governorship of Texas.
What’s the chance of Washington “expelling” Texas when so much energy and economic activity comes from there?
Yep. DC is in for an education.
Yes he was. He refused to take Texas out of the Union during the Civil War. Was ostracized for it and went to live with the Indians in OK.
After the CW he looked much wiser. But the state grew rapidly after the Occupation of the Deep South during Reconstruction.
They went GTT.
“Only please, Brer Fox, please don’t throw me into the briar patch.”
Yep, they would miss us. And if 30 states went with TX who would pay for the socialist welfare state?
NE would have to live in their own fowl nest.
let them have the blue counties... and we’ll take the red ones
oh... and they’ll have to pay an impact fee to cross the red counties, as their presence would increase the likelihood of crime
(if you tax it... you have less of it...)
We once had free states and slave states (based on race). Then the CW ended that? Or did it.
Now we still have free states and slave states, but this time it is Universal Slavery to the Nanny State.
Can the nation long endure the presence of Free States and Universal Slave States?
The last conflict over slavery was settled by war, how will this one be settled?
I think a lot of us both north and south feel the same way about states rights and preservation of the union. They don’t need to be mutually exclusive.
At this point I think Obama would like nothing more than to see America split up into multiple bite sized pieces.
The Northeast has always had it in for Texas, Way back when Bobby Kennedy was apologizing to the Mexicans for the Mexican War. Now Obama goes to Mexico and apologizing for her imposing our sovereignty on” Aztlan. which the Mexican still think is theirs.
Sam Houston once wrote a letter to Andrew Jackson in which he said that Texas can survive without the United States but the United States cannot survive without Texas. It’s still true after 175 years.
Red states should secede, allow time for the patriots to find their way there from the blue areas (and the lefties to find their way to the blue areas), then invade the blue states.
Secession may be the only option. The idiots who keep putting liberals in office aren’t going to go away and they are not going to suddenly change their minds and become conservatives because being a conservative requires that you become knowledgeable about issues and get your information from somewhere other than Oprah and Ellen.
Even more true after 175 years.
I’d settle for secession... except I’m a Yankee. TAKE ME WITH YOU!!!!
I dream every night of seeing Obozo removed from the White Hut in handcuffs.
It has been so since his first inauguration.
Let’s do one better and defeat the ComDems. Then Charge, Try, Convict, Sentence, Punish the Traitors and Criminals among them.
I want no part of secession. I want it all back and the ComDems out of office forever.
Let me remind you:
One of my ancestors was born in Texas during The Republic, but..
Texas is not where you were born, but a State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.
I am a 5th generation Texan.
But make no mistake, Texas is changing rapidly and is well underway to go the way of California in our lifetimes.
Liberals are pouring into this Texas at breakneck speed and are bringing all their liberal ideas with them. They have taken root in Austin and Houston and are spreading outward from those cities like a plague.
‘Like’ a plague? FRiend they ARE PLAGUE itself.
From your lips to The Lord's Golden Ears Tommy boy...
If it happened, we would not be lonely. 25-30 states would go with us. hee hee hee
expel Texas? DO IT, PLEASE I BEG YOU. DOOOOO ITTT.
Yes, we “sunflower” independent types, clinging to our God and our guns, so sicken Marxists, until they can “pry them from our cold, dead hands,” they’ve no use for us at all!
On my father's side from VA, headed out to MO for a time, some of the sons headed off to both TX and OK, others hung out in KS and we are still in the area.
Their worldview will never let them admit they need private industry. In their eyes, corporations don't create wealth, they steal it.
Texas would have to fend off millions trying to move there from liberal states were it to secede.
But it’s moot. Washington would never put up with the loss of tax revenue out of Texas without a war. Nor would it tolerate another nation located so close to the mouth of the Mississippi river. Look at a map of east Texas and the distance from New Orleans. The Mississippi river system is the largest system of connected navigable waters in the world. And it connects the American midwest to the rest of the world.
Many of the borders of Texas are rivers. Those are easy to defend. A few road blocks and immigration check stations.
I am getting ready to move to the Bahamas Look at the immigration requirements there. It is difficult to become a citizen even of you marry a Bahamian
I agree with you. We are well on our way to turning “blue”.
Notice the lib isn’t about letting people do something voluntarily - “allowing” secession is “out”, but “expelling” is “in”.
Shows a lot about the lib mentality right there.
Firm application of the “supremacy” of the 10th amendment would be a de facto secession.
If the fedgov were only able to exercise Art I Sec 8 powers and the states did not allow, under penalty of arrest, any other powers to be exercised,
it would be a de facto secession. There isn’t much the fedgov is legitimately authorized to do.
Kansas and South Carolina will be made an example, they are defying the Feds by making laws against Obamacare and gun control.
The real war will be all about supremacy, it will be a race to establish supremacy on both sides.
We The People defy the Federal Supremacy.
Like I said, if TX were to go, it would not be alone. LA & MS would be a part of that.
But Texas will not go, but it is time to reign in a Rogue Fed Gov and punish those who are destroying the nation. This is not the time for division, but a time to stand together. ComDems excluded.
I'm as serious as a heart attack,boys and girls.
Are you both from Western KS?
I worked for a company in KS (outside of KS City) for almost 15 years years. At one point I traveled 14 states for them. There is a big cultural divide within KS. The western part of the state is largely agricultural and ranching and extremely independent indeed. There are some places in western KS that outsiders are best advised to not ask too many questions about the locals. (Posse Comitatus)
I always felt welcome in that part of KS. Most of the eastern part of the state was like that too, when you got outside the cities.
There is a general dislike in “some” parts of KS for all things about TX. The AG area is an exception.
I have bought seed from K State several times and they were always nice people to deal with. It has changed somewhat since they partnered with Agra Pro (Syngenta). I have not done business with them since that happened. We had the same experience with TX A&M after they partnered with Agra Pro. We partnered with OK State when all that began to take place and are very happy with that relationship. It is funny how some things you do not plan actually work out to be a blessing.
Detachment from reality is a fatal flaw of the Pseudo Intellectual Left.
“Texas is changing rapidly and is well underway to go the way of California in our lifetimes.”
Data shows that Republicans have held the governorship for 26 of the past 34 years. How is that going the way of California?
Rats held the Texas governorship for 100 straight years prior to 1979. It looks like democrats no longer control the state legislature.
Though truth be told, I have only been in Western Kansas A Few Times.
Most of my out of town experiences have been in Missouri.
If you want a long, bitter cultural divide, the one between Kansas and Missouri can fill volumes.
And California was the state of Nixon and Reagan... before it suddenly flipped to what it is today.
The Texas of today... is NOTHING like the Texas of my youth, you would of had to of lived here your whole life to notice the changes.
Yes, I am aware of that divide.
I also spent a lot of time in MO.
MO also has the cultural divide between the AG areas and the cities. Especially Kansas City, MO.
Rush Limbaugh is from Cape Gerado, MO. He has contributed some powerful stuff to the movement to retain our freedom. (yes, he has an ego) Read years ago that his father was a Judge there.
Letting the Lone Star State secede would set a bad precedent. (See the Civil War of 1861 to 1865.)”
Well, it would indeed set a precedent. In the past when states wanted to sucede the central government waged war on them. (See the War of Northern Agression of 1861 to 1865.)
Letting a state withdraw in peace would certainly be a change, but one big-central-government advocates would have a hard time accepting.