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Call Your Texas Senator Ahead of 8 May Vote on Smart Meter bill
email ^ | 6 May 2013 | A Texas Patriot

Posted on 05/06/2013 8:47:17 PM PDT by Windflier

Just got this in email tonight, and thought I'd pass it on to my fellow Texans. There's an important vote coming up on Wednesday, 8 May in the Texas Senate regarding smart meters. This is a call to contact your state Senator regarding this important vote.

The email:

To my Friends in Texas – I’m going to just ask you to trust me! Most of you on this list know that I’m not into “radical” stuff – and many know that although I have passed along a little info opposing Smart Meters in the past, it has definitely not been a passionate cause for me. Until now.

In the past week, at two different meetings, I’ve heard some very reasoned and intelligent presentations by educated and informed people whom I deeply respect, that have convinced me that I definitely do not want a smart meter on my house, and feel no one should!

I’m not into the medical reasons (though I’ve seen enough presentations on this by intelligent people to agree that these can pose serious problems to some). It’s the presentations regarding security risks, hacking problems, privacy matters, huge potential for outside control (already happening in some places), and on and on, that are making me passionate.

The attachments will give you plenty of background. Read it all if you have time. Or trust me! The important thing is to call and email your state Senator (and any others you have time for) today or tomorrow.

URGE THEM TO VOTE YES ON SB241 ON WEDNESDAY!

Below are some talking points – if needed – when contacting the Senators. (These are not mine, but they’re very helpful.)

For all Senators’ phone numbers: http://www.senate.state.tx.us/assets/pdf/Senate_Phone_List.pdf

TALKING POINTS WHEN YOU CALL:

PLEASE Vote in favor of SB241 !

This bill gives the citizens the right to choose whether or not we have a monitoring and control computer on the side of our house.

Or, if it has already been installed without providing full disclosure or securing permission, this bill also enables us to have the smart meter removed, if we do not want it.

Regarding the speculated cost of the opt-out provision, this bill recognizes that charging consumers to pay extra not to participate in a non-mandatory program whose benefits do not outweigh the risks nor the increased costs is irrational and irresponsible. Paying extra to protect ne's health or privacy or security of personal information is unjustified.

The bill allows us to keep our lifestyle choices (how we use our electricity) private and secure from others who have no business knowing or controlling what we do in our own home.

This bill protects Texas' grid independence; maintaining Texas' sovereignty over our natural resources is paramount and nonpartisan. By establishing a joint legislative study committee, this bill also recognizes the lack of consideration given to the potential for very serious negative health effects associated with electromagnetic frequencies.

We very much hope we can we count your support for the bill as it is written - with no amendments, repeat, no amendments!

If you have any questions or comments, we would be very happy to discuss our opinions with you. Thank you for all the work you do. And thank you even more for voting for SB241.

Senators' emails:


Brian.Birdwell@senate.state.tx.us

donna.campbell@senate.state.tx.us

wendy.davis@senate.state.tx.us

robert.deuell@senate.state.tx.us

robert.duncan@senate.state.tx.us

rodney.ellis@senate.state.tx.us

troy.fraser@senate.state.tx.us

glenn.hegar@senate.state.tx.us

juan.hinojosa@senate.state.tx.us

joan.huffman@senate.state.tx.us

jane.nelson@senate.state.tx.us

robert.nichols@senate.state.tx.us

dan.patrick@senate.state.tx.us

ken.paxton@senate.state.tx.us

jose.rodriguez@senate.state.tx.us

Charles.schwertner@senate.state.tx.us

kel.seliger@senate.state.tx.us

carlos.uresti@senate.state.tx.us

leticia.vandeputte@senate.state.tx.us

kirk.watson@senate.state.tx.us

Royce.west@senate.state.tx.us

john.whitmire@senate.state.tx.us

tommy.williams@senate.state.tx.us

Judith.zaffirini@senate.state.tx.us


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I couldn't include the attachments from the email in this post, but may do so in a subsequent comment, if anyone requests it.

The important thing to do is to let your state Senator know how you feel about this issue right away, before this coming Wednesday's vote.

Please don't hesitate to pass this on to fellow Texas patriots who aren't Freepers.

Thank you!

1 posted on 05/06/2013 8:47:17 PM PDT by Windflier
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To: El Gato; Eaker; hocndoc; Squantos; SwinneySwitch; MeekOneGOP; weegee; lentulusgracchus; ...

Ping to the Texas list. Smart Meter vote coming up in the Texas Senate!


2 posted on 05/06/2013 8:48:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Thanks fora the ping!


3 posted on 05/06/2013 8:50:03 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Windflier

More crap science. If you buy this “health” malarkey, then you should never be within 10 feet of a cellphone.


4 posted on 05/06/2013 9:01:54 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob
More crap science. If you buy this “health” malarkey, then you should never be within 10 feet of a cellphone.

Health concerns are the least of people's concerns about smart meters, Bob. Mostly, people are concerned about the insidious information gathering and violation of privacy these devices bring.

5 posted on 05/06/2013 9:05:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

You bet, AG.


6 posted on 05/06/2013 9:06:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Thanks for the ping.

But I wonder...if your electric company (I’m in a co-op) tells you that they ARE installing smart meters how do you tell them no?

I really think they would pull my service for refusing. Although I have a ton of kerosene lamps..how am I gonna keep the computer running?


7 posted on 05/06/2013 9:08:09 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Windflier

Thank you. I just contacted my state senator Dan Patrick.


8 posted on 05/06/2013 9:15:12 PM PDT by Texas56
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To: berdie
But I wonder...if your electric company (I’m in a co-op) tells you that they ARE installing smart meters how do you tell them no?

Berdie, I'm far from an expert on this subject, but from what I've heard, it can be darn near impossible to keep the electric utilities from installing this equipment, which THEY own and monitor, on YOUR private property.

That's one of the central issues this bill seeks to address.

You shouldn't have to accept the installation of a device which collects information of a private nature on you and your family, as a condition of doing business with the provider of an essential service.

9 posted on 05/06/2013 9:23:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Texas56
Thank you. I just contacted my state senator Dan Patrick.

Bless you, FRiend.

10 posted on 05/06/2013 9:24:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: berdie
But I wonder...if your electric company (I’m in a co-op) tells you that they ARE installing smart meters how do you tell them no? I really think they would pull my service for refusing. Although I have a ton of kerosene lamps..how am I gonna keep the computer running?

Not a fan of lawsuits but I think that is how you tell them no. I doubt any contract between you and your electric provider included them having the right to gather detailed information about you and your home. I think it's more like they provide electric power and you pay the bill and that's about where it stops.

11 posted on 05/06/2013 9:26:39 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Windflier

That makes sense.

I’ll call my guys tomorrow.

Thanks again!


12 posted on 05/06/2013 9:28:06 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Windflier

Uh what information would that be? You use more electricity when you are home and less when you are away at work. You gotta realize that your life is pretty mundane and boring and nobody would really want to analyze it. There are a lot more important issues to be concerned with and the government liberals are probably happy that people are taking the time to concern themselves with this issue.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 9:30:15 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower
Uh what information would that be? You use more electricity when you are home and less when you are away at work. You gotta realize that your life is pretty mundane and boring and nobody would really want to analyze it.

I thought the same thing, until I started reading a bit about smart meters. They don't call them 'smart' for no reason. They collect a whole lot more metric data about you than you'd be comfortable with, if you knew.

14 posted on 05/06/2013 9:33:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Off the top of my head I could see one way of combating this intrusion.

You could install a deep cycle battery system as used in solar, and wind type systems. The batts would be charged off the grid and used to buffer the power used in the house. This makes the smart meter data completely inaccurate and worthless.

15 posted on 05/06/2013 9:38:19 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Windflier

I’ve had one on my home for the last two years. No difference. My point is there are a lot bigger fish to fry.


16 posted on 05/06/2013 9:39:21 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Same here for the last two years. If anything I have been able to monitor my own use and have been able to slightly reduce overall consumption.


17 posted on 05/06/2013 10:16:43 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: artichokegrower

So they can’t call their state Senator then move on to the next fish?


18 posted on 05/06/2013 10:18:03 PM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: Windflier

You don’t. They will do it anyway. I told them no; and they said tough. It blew my electricity and I, not them (emphasis here) had to pay a 1,000 bucks to get it fixed. It’s quite a scam.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 10:18:30 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: artichokegrower; Windflier

I’ve had one on my home for the last two years. No difference. My point is there are a lot bigger fish to fry.
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They (Atmos) installed the new meter at my house about two years ago, also. I’ve lived here for 27 years and do the bill-averaging payments. I have seen no change in my normal billings with the new meter. .....What kind of new data could they collect with the new meters, other than peak usage times at my house?


20 posted on 05/06/2013 10:18:55 PM PDT by octex
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To: Windflier

Here in California, PG&E came through and installed smart meters on all of the houses in our area. Our house received one without my knowledge or permission. They do provide a way to “opt” out of the smart meters, but at a price. I had to pay a fee of something like $35.00 to have them come out, remove the smart meter, and re-install the old one. In addition, I now have to pay an extra fee of something like $10.00 per month in order to continue having the old-fashioned meter. What a scam!! I am not thrilled, to say the least, but I am paying the extra money to keep big brother at bay for little while longer....


21 posted on 05/06/2013 10:29:13 PM PDT by Zetman
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To: Windflier

For nearly 100 years utility customers have had strangers (meter readers) peering over their fences once a month. THAT is an invasion of privacy! But if you wanted the service you accepted it.
Now they want to read their meters remotely, eliminating the monthly peeping tom, and everyone’s up in arms! Sheeesh!


22 posted on 05/06/2013 11:07:30 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: artichokegrower
I’ve had one on my home for the last two years. No difference.

Oh, there's a very big difference, and it's in the data that's been collected on your private electrical usage.

I highly suggest doing some cursory reading on the subject to get at least a rudimentary understanding of what's going on here.

23 posted on 05/06/2013 11:25:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Zetman
I now have to pay an extra fee of something like $10.00 per month in order to continue having the old-fashioned meter. What a scam!! I am not thrilled, to say the least, but I am paying the extra money to keep big brother at bay for little while longer....

At least you're fighting back is some fashion. Kudos to you.

24 posted on 05/06/2013 11:27:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cartoonistx
...they want to read their meters remotely, eliminating the monthly peeping tom, and everyone’s up in arms! Sheeesh!

You really ought to do yourself a favor and do some digging on this subject. It goes a lot deeper than merely reading your meter remotely.

25 posted on 05/06/2013 11:29:10 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Great post for awareness. I had the “smart meter” removed and the old style reinstalled about 3 mos. ago. The smart meter was installed last year. Location is on the outer wall directly behind our bedroom. I noticed I could not sleep at night and over the period of 8 mos. experienced a decline in health. I ran across an article regarding these meters and saw that there were very reasoned arguments for not wanting this meter, especially so close to your sleeping space. I also noticed that since the meter is gone my electric bill has been reduced by about 30 to 40 percent per month. Everyone should decline this meter. I do believe you have a RIGHT to decline it. You should post a label on your meter warning that it cannot be replaced with a smart meter. It warns the electric company that you are not agreeing to this meter.


26 posted on 05/06/2013 11:32:24 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Windflier

They do it with the internets!


27 posted on 05/06/2013 11:33:23 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: bigbob
Not crap.... real health decline for me. I am doing great since they removed the meter. Took about a month or so before I was able to sleep at night.

I really don't understand Freepers who welcome "big brother" into their home so willingly.

28 posted on 05/06/2013 11:36:57 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Windflier

Thanks for the ping.

I’ve had debates on other forums regarding Smart Meters. Most people think I’m a tin-foil hat nutcase, and, personally, I like that, because it means that they will accept the Smart Meters, and therefore the utilities will get what they want - at the same time I get what I want, if this bill passes, as I get to opt out.

I think 5 to 10 years from now, when everything in one’s house is centrally controlled, many more people will want to opt out...but it will probably be too late, and I’ll be grandfathered with a good old dumb meter.

At least that’s my hope.


29 posted on 05/07/2013 5:11:42 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL

With the Smart Meter comes incremental electric billing (charge more at the hottest part of the day just to increase profits), the ability to shut off your power individually with no warning. Further, with the advent of so many “smart” systems, there is the threat of reading your individual systems through the meter. Data is always being transmitted along the power lines already. In addition, there is no ability to keep the utility from surreptitiously changing the power measuring algorithm without your knowledge.


30 posted on 05/07/2013 5:33:19 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: artichokegrower

We’ve had one for over five years. Our bills have been the same as when they are manually read. We also have a water meter that the city just drives by, and it transmits our water usage instead of having an employee open the cover and read usage.

The utility department can give you an hour by hour printout of any month. That actually helped us, when we had a lead between the meter and house. The city looked at the start date and when I fixed the line and gave us a cost adjustment.


31 posted on 05/07/2013 5:53:46 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Windflier

I already have what I call a “smart meter”. It enables the electric company to read my meter without coming on to my property. I can keep my gate locked and I know my dogs are not getting out. What am I missing or is this NOT the device you are talking about?


32 posted on 05/07/2013 6:31:14 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: berdie

Guinei Pigs in a small rowboat causing waterflow over an impeller running a generator???

Ohhh wait...That brings up a Co-Gen issue...Oops yer screwed there...;-)


33 posted on 05/07/2013 8:23:48 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Ditter

Ditter, it sounds like you have one of those meters that can be read at a distance with a hand held device. Not the same as the so-called ‘smart meters’.

Search on the keyword, ‘smartmeter’ at FR and tons of articles will pop up. This thing is an insidious information gathering device that you probably don’t want.


34 posted on 05/07/2013 8:29:31 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

You know, all kidding aside...(I know its hard for me at times)...

They put a smart meter on our house wihtout any fanfare or briefing on what it was supposed to do...I thought it was to make it easier to bill us...

Sure it could be monitored remotely and reduce the need for manual (onsite) inspection/monitoring...For billing purposes...

If somehow we are under the potential for regulation of our usage, and the rates of usage, somehow they want to brown us out, or shut us down completely without any input from us, as the case may be determined BY THEM, then yeah, I have a problem with it, and if these smart meters allow them to do it easier then hell yeah, lets pull their plug...

But if the agenda is clear to them and they are allowed by law to do this, what is to stop them anyway??? they don’t need to pic through and shut us down individually, they can just shut down the plants that generate the power to our grid and boom...There go the lights...

Bottom line: I would like to go back to where it is hard for them to micromanage our power usage...If we leave the lights on, we pay for it...If we conserve and do the right thing and not waste the power generated, then what the hell is the big beef then???

That’s actually a rhetorical question...

I have some “things” that keep me powered up, in cases of emergency, that they cannot regulate...And the means to keep them, if they decide to somehow desire that we give those things up...


35 posted on 05/07/2013 8:32:08 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: All
Folks, if you're even the least bit uninformed about the so-called 'smart meters', do yourself a favor and visit these FR threads on the subject:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/smartmeters/index?tab=articles

36 posted on 05/07/2013 8:37:11 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; Ditter

You know...Come to think of it ours may be one of those drive-by (from the street) easy read meters also...

Ditter and I live in the same area, and CenterPoint has installed a lot of those in the last couple of years...

But, since this has come up, I will ping my State Senator and ask him where he falls on this issue/bill...that’s Larry Taylor...I will also get Senator Eltife up in N.E. Texas a call as well...Thats about all I can do...


37 posted on 05/07/2013 8:37:28 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64
I will ping my State Senator and ask him where he falls on this issue/bill...that’s Larry Taylor...I will also get Senator Eltife up in N.E. Texas a call as well.

Thanks, Stevie. Much appreciated.

38 posted on 05/07/2013 8:39:07 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; All

Senator Eltife from Texas Senate District 1 is a “yea” on this one tomorrow...

FYI...


39 posted on 05/07/2013 8:44:51 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64

For many, the meter is located near a bedroom. I am concerned about the long-term health effects from the peak energy emitted by the meter. Although I am no expert on this, but it’s not hard to find testimony from medical experts and scientists who are concerned. Search for Dr. Carpenter for a bunch of information. Here is one article:
http://maisonsaine.ca/smart-meters-correcting-the-gross-misinformation/

And a related concern is not just the smart meters, but also the intermittent transmission meters (that send the information back and forth from the smart meters) that are installed throughout the neighborhoods.

Common sense tells me that surely all of this radiation is going to add up, and it may cause immediate effects to those who are especially sensitive to ongoing radiation. Also commen sense tells me that the government/industry coalition that is pushing the smart meters did not bother with careful safety studies.


40 posted on 05/07/2013 8:53:32 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: All
More from my Texas patriot friend this morning:

Right now in the TX legislature we’re trying to get SB241 voted on – WITH NO AMENDMENTS - which has to do with Smart Meters, and the ability of Texans to opt out of this program, with no penalty. I wrote my Texas friends yesterday with talking points, etc. and urged them to CALL YOUR STATE SENATOR and urge him/her to vote FOR Senate Bill 241!

Today I’m writing my friends everywhere – just to suggest you go on this website: http://takebackyourpower.net/ and watch the trailer.

I saw the full documentary last Friday night – excellent. It showed me that this is not an issue that should be relegated to any political party. It’s not a “nutcase” issue. Intelligent professionals in scientific, ecological, biological, engineering, security, health fields, etc – are on record as opposing smart meters.

You should care about this if you value your security (from regular home thieves who can easily find out when folks are out of town via the smart meter), value your security from other forms of interference stemming from the knowledge of exactly what electrical appliances you are using at any time (thus tracking your daily life patterns), value your independence, freedom from control of your life by others, value your health, and on and on … (as always, the bottom line is money and control).

The trailer to the movie “Take Back Your Power” is just a few minutes long – but it gives a good overview of the issues involved with smart meters. I’m sharing this with those of you who aren’t in Texas – just so you’re aware. The film shows people around the globe beginning to wake up and protest smart meters.

http://takebackyourpower.net/

41 posted on 05/07/2013 9:17:56 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Let me know what you find out stevie.


42 posted on 05/07/2013 9:45:05 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter; All

As usual...Larry Taylors office promices a lot...But delivers zero...

It might be safe to “assume” Taylor will vote “yea”, but the proof will be in the pudding...

Getting tired of the lack of communication from this guy...I remember when he was one of us...Just a lowly Precinct Chair back in the day...

Kinda makes you think...

Should have been pretty easy to poll ALL the senators in this state on this bill, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

I do know they are up to their eyeballs in stuff to do on the floor these days, but at least their staffs should have the information we are looking for...

I guess I need to work on my communications skills as well...;-)


43 posted on 05/08/2013 5:02:54 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Windflier

Privacy issues seem to be the major issue with AARP. Or that’s how I read their info.

An article from the Houston Chronicle back on Feb. 28, 2013

http://www.chron.com/opinion/outlook/article/Smart-meters-raise-questions-of-third-party-4298105.php


44 posted on 05/08/2013 5:22:44 AM PDT by deport
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To: El Gato; Eaker; hocndoc; Squantos; SwinneySwitch; MeekOneGOP; weegee; lentulusgracchus; ...
Last Minute Update Ping

The smart meter bill, SB241, needs help. We don't yet have our 21 votes and time is running out. These undecided Senators need to hear from us now.

You can call folks other than YOUR Senator. Most don’t ask where you’re from.

One who called all of these Senators was told by about half of them that they hadn’t received any calls on this matter!

Davis (D) 512-463-0110
Birdwell (R) 512-463-0122
Deull (R) 512-463-0102
Duncan (R) 512-463-0128
Ellis (D) 512-463-0113
Fraser (R) 512-463-0124
Garcia (D) 512-463- new, not in book, can't find number right now
Huffman (R) 512-463-0117 might be a yes by now
Nichols (R) 512-463-0103 might be a yes by now
Rodriquez (D) 512-463-0129
Selliger (R) 512-463-0131 Amarillo area. Sidd is his aide. Cites all kinds of bogus data.
Uresti (D) 512-463-0119
Zafferini (D) 512-463-0121

45 posted on 05/08/2013 2:37:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

...and you can BET that they are hearing from the Utilities...


46 posted on 05/08/2013 4:19:03 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL
...and you can BET that they are hearing from the Utilities...

The Utilities are only interested in getting paid for the electricity they deliver. As far as I know, they're having no trouble with that.

No, someone else wants these invasive, information gathering devices installed on every American house.

47 posted on 05/08/2013 4:46:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Not true. From a utility standpoint, these meters are PERFECT as it negates the need for energy storage when systems get too top-heavy with wind and solar (i.e., unpredictable generation)...and they are being forced into that.

Without thees meters, the Utilities would have to build a boatload of new plants, to deal with cloudy/windless days, or roll blackouts - neither of which is very popular.

...but shut off demand when supply dries up...much easier for them, politically.


48 posted on 05/08/2013 4:58:32 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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...but don’t get me wrong - others (law enforcement, bad guys, employers who want to know if their employee is really home sick, etc.) are very interested in that information, but they are not the ones that NEED the smart meters.


49 posted on 05/08/2013 5:00:11 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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From a utility standpoint, these meters are PERFECT as it negates the need for energy storage when systems get too top-heavy with wind and solar (i.e., unpredictable generation)...and they are being forced into that.

Without thees meters, the Utilities would have to build a boatload of new plants, to deal with cloudy/windless days, or roll blackouts - neither of which is very popular.

Bob, you may not have been keeping up with news on the energy front lately. Electric power generation from wind and solar is on the wane, and existing boondoggle facilities are being taken off-line all over the country.

That news isn't anything but a blip in the national leftmedia because it's an enormous failure of their green agenda, but the data's all over the place in the alternative media.

50 posted on 05/08/2013 5:20:35 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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