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Jordanians oppose confederation with Palestinians
Jerusalem Post ^ | 04/30/2013 19:25 | Khaled Abu Toameh

Posted on 05/06/2013 10:03:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai

More than 1,000 Jordanians have signed a petition opposing the idea of a confederation between the kingdom and a future Palestinian state.

The petition also opposes using Jordan as a launching pad for Western military intervention in Syria. …

Some Palestinians have also voiced opposition to the confederation idea, saying it should be discussed only after the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with east Jerusalem as its capital. …

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: confederation; jordan; palestinians; rop
This dates back eight days, but I couldn’t find it posted here. Jordan is definitely not “Palestine,” something that does not exist along with the fictional “Palestinian people”. There is no affinity between the two.
1 posted on 05/06/2013 10:03:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The Jordanians kicked the dirty palestenians away as soon as they could.

So did the Arabians.

2 posted on 05/06/2013 10:05:34 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

If the arabs get a separate state in the heartland of Israel what is currently known as the West Bank, it’s a foregone conclusion that it would have to become a part of Jordan. If left on it’s own it would be a nonviable country. Completely dependent on foreign handouts. This isn’t stated but is widely acknowledged by those in the region or in the know as I understand it.

Maybe it just becomes a war zone and that’s all. War on all Hebrews and kafirs.

3 posted on 05/06/2013 10:26:57 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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The Phased Plan of 1974, official PLO policy, note point 5. This was four years after Arafat and his minions were driven out of Jordan to Lebanon by the King's pop, also a King Hussein, after an assassination attempt beginning Black September. His pop having been murdered by palestinians in 1948. Arafat had the support of Egypt and the Saudis, and actively Syria. Did him no good. I can't imagine why Jordan doesn't want to confederate with palestinians. In any case, the Phase Plan envisions Jordan and presumably the King disappearing

THE PLO'S PHASED PLAN Political Programme
Adopted at the 12th Session of the Palestinian National Council
Cairo, June 9, 1974
Text of the Phased Plan resolution:
The Palestinian National Council:

On the basis of the Palestinian National Charter and the Political Programme drawn up at the eleventh session, held from January 6-12, 1973; and from its belief that it is impossible for a permanent and just peace to be established in the area unless our Palestinian people recover all their national rights and, first and foremost, their rights to return and to self-determination on the whole of the soil of their homeland; and in the light of a study of the new political circumstances that have come into existence in the period between the Council's last and present sessions, resolves the following:

1-To reaffirm the Palestine Liberation Organization's previous attitude to Resolution 242, which obliterates the national right of our people and deals with the cause of our people as a problem of refugees. The Council therefore refuses to have anything to do with this resolution at any level, Arab or international, including the Geneva Conference.

2-The Liberation Organization will employ all means, and first and foremost armed struggle, to liberate Palestinian territory and to establish the independent combatant national authority for the people over every part of Palestinian territory that is liberated. This will require further changes being effected in the balance of power in favour of our people and their struggle.

3-The Liberation Organization will struggle against any proposal for a Palestinian entity the price of which is recognition, peace, secure frontiers, renunciation of national rights and the deprival of our people of their right to return and their right to self-determination on the soil of their homeland.

4-Any step taken towards liberation is a step towards the realization of the Liberation Organization's strategy of establishing the democratic Palestinian state specified in the resolutions of previous Palestinian National Councils.

5-Struggle along with the Jordanian national forces to establish a Jordanian-Palestinian national front whose aim will be to set up in Jordan a democratic national authority in close contact with the Palestinian entity that is established through the struggle.

6-The Liberation Organization will struggle to establish unity in struggle between the two peoples and between all the forces of the Arab liberation movement that are in agreement on this programme.

7-In the light of this programme, the Liberation Organization will struggle to strengthen national unity and to raise it to the level where it will be able to perform its national duties and tasks.

8-Once it is estabished, the Palestinian national authority will strive to achieve a union of the confrontation countries, with the aim of completing the liberation of all Palestinian territory, and as a step along the road to comprehensive Arab unity.

9-The Liberation Organization will strive to strengthen its solidarity with the socialist countries, and with forces of liberation and progress throughout the world, with the aim of frustration all the schemes of Zionism, reaction and imperialism.

10-In light of this programme, the leadership of the revolution will determine the tactics which will serve and make possible the realization of these objectives.

The Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization will make every effort to implement this programme, and should a situation arise affecting the destiny and the future of the Palestinian people, the National Assembly will be convened in extraordinary session.

6 posted on 05/07/2013 5:12:27 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Olog-hai

Because Joranians are simply another name for “Palestinians”. This is why I DO NOT ACCEPT a seperate “Palestine”.

Jordan, GET OVER IT, you are it.

7 posted on 05/07/2013 5:52:35 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Sheapdog

Please see post 7, thank-you!

8 posted on 05/07/2013 5:53:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

As far as I’m concerned Jordan is Palestine if they wanna call it that. Obviously the “west bank’ or as in scripture the mountains of Israel are the exact location specifically promised to Jacob’s inheritance. The land doesn’t belong to a person that they can sell or give away anyhow. But, it might be tried with disastrous results temporarily.

9 posted on 05/07/2013 7:56:57 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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To: Biggirl

They aren’t, though. And they never were. The Arabs calling themselves by the false name “Palestinian” come from elsewhere.

10 posted on 05/07/2013 9:40:45 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Sheapdog

That’s not what the “Palestinians” really want. They aren’t worried about viability so-called. They are fond of the handouts from the current head of the terror caliphate (Iran) and all the other antisemitic countries that hate Israel and Jews, besides. Pan-Arabism is all about Islamic socialism, imperialism and antisemitism.

11 posted on 05/07/2013 9:43:41 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I understand but the corrupt politicians and world leaders including Israeli ones will force their agenda and goals on Israel.

12 posted on 05/07/2013 9:52:33 AM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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To: Olog-hai


13 posted on 05/07/2013 10:19:23 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl
So the “Palestinians” don’t belong to Jordan, nor Jordan to them. They are and always will be separate entities. IIRC, the historic Moabites and Ammonites still live there and predominate, and they are not Arabs (who are Ishmaelites).

Even Zuheir Mohsen, the PLO leader who admitted that the “Palestinian people does not exist” (direct quote from him), acknowledged that Jordan wasn't “Palestinian” either, but expressed a desire to unite “Palestine” with Jordan upon attaining his goal of conquering all of Israel and renaming it “Palestine”—he never at any time called Jordan “Palestine”.
14 posted on 05/07/2013 10:31:57 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SJackson

80% of Jordanians are Palestinian. Even Palestinians want nothing to do with other Palestinians. But everything will be all better if Israel just negotiates under duress from the US.

15 posted on 05/07/2013 2:30:25 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Olog-hai

Aren’t the Arabs descended from some guy named Qahtan, not Ishmael? Supposedly, Ishmael was the founding father of the “Arabized Arabs”.

16 posted on 05/09/2013 8:35:18 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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