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More Bill Richardson: Everyone’s misinterpreting what I said about defining Ted Cruz as a Hispanic
Hotair ^ | 05/07/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 05/07/2013 7:03:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Via the Free Beacon. He says he didn’t mean Cruz can’t be defined as Hispanic, just that Cruz shouldn’t be defined exclusively by race. His problem is that he’s saying this against a backdrop of 25 years of liberals accusing Clarence Thomas of being inauthentically black because his politics are right-wing rather than left. And political operatives on both sides understand that if Cruz lands on the ticket in three years, attacks of this sort in ways subtle and not will be thrown at him. Peter Beinart wrote a piece for Newsweek this morning titled “Yes, Democrats Can Be Racist” (really?) chastising Dem Dick Harpootlian for his nasty comment about Nikki Haley, and speculating that that’ll become more frequent on the left as Republicans elect more minorities. True, but the blowback potential from cracks like that guarantees that they’ll be rare-ish. The likelier leftist reaction to GOP diversity, I think, will be to double down on the sort of determinism that Thomas has been demagogued with. You won’t hear people tell Haley to go back where she came from, you’ll hear them tell her that she’s betrayed her race by carrying water for the “white party.” The boss emeritus has been getting that from the left for decades. I think it might get worse before it gets better.

Anyway, enough Richardson. The more interesting Cruz-related clip yesterday came, surprisingly, from James Carville, who was near-rapturous about Cruz’s retail skills. Watch below. I can’t tell if this is Serpenthead paying legit respect to a worthy adversary or some sort of sly briar-patch play where he’s promoting a guy whom he thinks would be easiest for Hillary to beat. Verdict?

Update: After you’re done with these two clips, go watch “Morning Joe” wrestle with the fact that, by their own admission, Harpootlian’s remark about Haley would have been five-alarm news if he was a Republican. That fits nicely with the point I’ve been making lately about Gosnell: The media is more open about its biases than it was 10 years ago. Just don’t expect them to do much about it.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billrichardson; hispanic; tedcruz

1 posted on 05/07/2013 7:03:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Richardson, you’re about as believable and honest as a Muslim cleric.

Shove it up your smelly Obama.


2 posted on 05/07/2013 7:03:58 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

3 posted on 05/07/2013 7:07:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

In other words....what I said, I did not say.....


4 posted on 05/07/2013 7:11:08 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: SeekAndFind

He is more “Hispanic” than the white guy with the last name “Richardson”.


5 posted on 05/07/2013 7:11:49 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: SeekAndFind

Walk it back, Bill!


6 posted on 05/07/2013 7:14:49 AM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bill Richardson, isn’t he a “white Hispanic?”


7 posted on 05/07/2013 7:16:07 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: SeekAndFind

RailRunner Richardson is an economic genius.


8 posted on 05/07/2013 7:17:27 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Da Coyote
One of the very first immigrants to Jamestown Virginia was a fellow named Cruz. He'd lived at Hopewell earlier when the Spanish had a sort of mission station ~

Bet that beats any of Richardson's more traditional Spanish ancestors in what is now the United States ~ earliest ones into the Southwest didn't arrive until 1598, and some of them had actually lived along the James River in Virginia.

Again, American history in the 16th century just isn't well covered in the public schools these days and that allows idiots like Richardson to spout nonsense.

9 posted on 05/07/2013 7:18:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

I think we’ve heard just about enough from you, Mr. Swedish-last-name!


10 posted on 05/07/2013 7:18:54 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: zerosix

I always found it amusing how the white guy with the WASP name “Richardson” claimed to be a leading voice among “Hispanics”

I guess if you are a leftist needing to play racial politics, and the other talking heads proclaim it, it is so.

Just like Elizabeth Warren can be considered a Cherokee.


11 posted on 05/07/2013 7:20:34 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Hispanic is a nationality, not a race. Too bad people don’t understand that.


12 posted on 05/07/2013 7:20:44 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: NRA1995

Well, seeing that Cruz father is from CUBA on the island of HISPANIOLA, who is more ‘hispanic’ monsieur Richardson?......


13 posted on 05/07/2013 7:25:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: SeekAndFind

“That fits nicely with the point I’ve been making lately about Gosnell: The media is more open about its biases than it was 10 years ago. Just don’t expect them to do much about it.”

That’s the issue today. Once morality is defined by one’s own opinion instead of God’s authority, then we’re on the road to destruction. For example, the media/progessive left used to deny that unborn babies were in fact babies that were being murdered. They’ve finally had to acknowledge they are babies because of technology, but now we see the call from them to kill children even AFTER they are born!


14 posted on 05/07/2013 7:25:24 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: NRA1995

I like how some mexicans play both sides of that street.


15 posted on 05/07/2013 7:38:31 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Richardson is the clown who tried to pay off Monica Lewinski with a UN job after she gave bubba another sort of job

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16 posted on 05/07/2013 7:39:49 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: NRA1995

I never quite understood that one either. So it looks like language is the definer of race now? I (apparently incorrectly) thought hispanics originated in Spain. (which last time I looked was in europe) Maybe it’s the mayan/aztec angle. Hell who knows anymore. Kind of like when you fill out your census form you put “American” in the race box.


17 posted on 05/07/2013 7:43:39 AM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST mr. president(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: SeekAndFind

..backtracking like crazy......he must have gotten some phones calls
Don’t you just love it when they say...”you heard me wrong”


18 posted on 05/07/2013 7:45:02 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: SeekAndFind

We read you loud and clear Bill. Si se puede.


19 posted on 05/07/2013 7:46:42 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hehehehehe...Bill had to be feeling some heat and rightly so! I say turn it up!


20 posted on 05/07/2013 7:59:40 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: NRA1995
"Hispanic is a nationality, not a race. Too bad people don’t understand that."

The muzzies have convinced the UN to define the Jihadis as a race. Why not "hispanics" too?

21 posted on 05/07/2013 8:19:18 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger
Well, seeing that Cruz father is from CUBA on the island of HISPANIOLA, who is more ‘hispanic’ monsieur Richardson?......

Cuba isn't on the island of Hispanolia. It is an island by itself. Hispanolia is made up of two countries: the Dominican Republic and Haiti.
22 posted on 05/07/2013 8:19:36 AM PDT by railroader
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To: SeekAndFind
[...] just that Cruz shouldn’t be defined exclusively by race.

Shouldn't no one be defined exclusively by race. I mean: Don't good taste and commonsense demand that?

Regards,

23 posted on 05/07/2013 8:19:54 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Red Badger
Well, seeing that Cruz father is from CUBA on the island of HISPANIOLA, [...]

Wait... The island of Cuba is located on the island of Hispaniola?

Regards,

24 posted on 05/07/2013 8:21:11 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: wolfman23601

Guillermo son de Ricardo?

Hey it’s just a guess.


25 posted on 05/07/2013 8:23:23 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t believe your lying ears!


26 posted on 05/07/2013 8:34:25 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: alexander_busek; railroader

Well, It’s nearer there than New Mexico, anyways......;^)


27 posted on 05/07/2013 8:38:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: NRA1995

Actually Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race or nationality


28 posted on 05/07/2013 9:03:19 AM PDT by Cosmo105
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To: SeekAndFind

we need more Eskimos in positions of power


29 posted on 05/07/2013 9:05:14 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Red Badger

You are mistaken. You might try looking at a,map occasionally. Cuba and Hispaniola are two different islands: Cuba is the largest island, by far, in the Caribbean; the island of Hispaniola lies to Cuba’s southeast. Hispaniola, which was discovered by Columbus, became the property of France and was named the St. Domingue colony. It is now known as two countries, French-speaking Haiti and the larger, Spanish-speaking Dominican Republic.


30 posted on 05/07/2013 9:05:19 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Cosmo105

No, it is not an ethnicity either. It’s like saying that being European is an ethnicity. The descendents of Italians and Germans in Argentina and Uruguay have nothing in common with the half-Indian half Spanish people of Mexico, who in turn have no tie to the Negroes of Cuba and Puerto Rico.


31 posted on 05/07/2013 9:12:35 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: NRA1995

“Hispanic is a nationality, not a race. “

What nation would that be?

Hispanic means Spanish-heritage region of origin - i.e. Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American, or even Spain. But this includes those who self-identify as being of Mexican (etc.) descent even if they were born in the USA.

So you are right that Hispanic is not a racial identity, but it does not really describe a national identity either.

Since my learning to speak Spanish fluently would not make me Hispanic, I have to conclude being Hispanic is generally-speaking an ethnic/cultural type of identification.

But I also contend that Black is not a race either. Humanity is one race. It is very similar to the categorization of Hispanic as being an ethnic/cultural type of identification. The one difference is that Hispanic is usually associated with Spanish-speaking cultures.


32 posted on 05/07/2013 9:28:04 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If "everyone" is misinterpreting you, you dolt, that means you said it wrong!
33 posted on 05/07/2013 9:59:50 AM PDT by FatherFig1o155 (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil. -- Thomas Paine)
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To: Da Coyote

Being defined exclusively by race is a privilege granted only to leftists.


34 posted on 05/07/2013 10:24:31 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Da Coyote

I am missing something here. It is certainly not an insult to be called a hispanic.


35 posted on 05/07/2013 11:31:59 AM PDT by DallasSun
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To: rockrr
Caribbean and Gulf coast populations of both Hispanics and non-Hispanics are a tad different here and there.
36 posted on 05/07/2013 11:51:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: woofie
The EIEIO rules as put together by Justice Thomas way back when say that if your spouse is a member of some kind of protected group, so are you.

Sarah's hubby is a member of a protected group ~ so is she per Thomas' regulations.

Some of these pukes who've gone after Sarah and her kids could probably be sued down to their short hairs!

37 posted on 05/07/2013 11:54:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: unlearner

If you are native born in an area once ruled by the King of Spain you are Hispanic whether you like it or not ~ most of us on this board are actually Hispanic simply because we were born in the United States.


38 posted on 05/07/2013 11:56:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, it’s our fault for being too stupid to understand what you mean.

Say ‘Hi’ to Barack for us.


39 posted on 05/07/2013 12:49:04 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: kabumpo

Per the OMB guidelines located here, hispanic is considered an ethnicity:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/fedreg_directive_15


40 posted on 05/07/2013 4:38:03 PM PDT by Cosmo105
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To: DallasSun

>> I am missing something here. It is certainly not an insult to be called a hispanic.

The insult meant to dissociate Cruz from any Hispanic advantage. It was a presumptuous, racist remark.


41 posted on 05/07/2013 4:47:34 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Gene Eric

Hispanic is not a race. Hispanics are caucasians. I am not being difficult to get along with. I must be thick as a plank. Sorry. And hispanics do not vote for a canddate because they are hispanics. I worked for Henry Bonilla. He never got the hispanic vote.


42 posted on 05/07/2013 4:50:49 PM PDT by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun

Race differentiation is not bound to the set containing the familiar classifications: Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid. The term can be used to distinguish cultural characteristics and biological subspecies.


43 posted on 05/07/2013 5:13:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Gene Eric

We could do that certainly. Of course, we would then be inaccurate...but we can do that too.


44 posted on 05/07/2013 5:20:19 PM PDT by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun

Not inaccurate, just not the narrow, familiar usage.

Richardson’s remark involved a genetic taxonomy which differentiates Hispanics from non-Hispanics. That’s racism.


45 posted on 05/07/2013 5:37:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Gene Eric

I understand what you are saying. And yes, I agree with your opinion of Richardson’s racism. Si.


46 posted on 05/07/2013 5:39:07 PM PDT by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun

And I agree that Hispanics are indeed Caucasian. :)


47 posted on 05/07/2013 5:40:03 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Gene Eric

Thank you kindly.


48 posted on 05/07/2013 5:43:17 PM PDT by DallasSun
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To: Cosmo105

The WH is making this up out of whole cloth, and I can’t believe that anyone at FR would cite them as a source.
Because guess what, Argentinians don’t think they are in any kind of category with Mexicans, Guatamalans or Puerto Ricans. And that goes three ways back at them.


49 posted on 05/07/2013 10:58:05 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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