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Why so many people including scientists suddenly believe in an afterlife
Maclean's ^ | May 7, 2013 | Brian Bethune

Posted on 05/07/2013 11:00:54 AM PDT by rickmichaels

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1 posted on 05/07/2013 11:00:54 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

It’s all happened before...


2 posted on 05/07/2013 11:01:57 AM PDT by GOPJ ( A gang rape by eight isn't 'immigration reform'... Send the 33 million illegals home.)
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To: rickmichaels

There’s no dead atheists.


3 posted on 05/07/2013 11:04:39 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If guns kill people, how come no one dies at gun shows?)
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To: rickmichaels

They know the end is near.


4 posted on 05/07/2013 11:10:28 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: rickmichaels

Obama’s Amerika — proof positive that hell exists.


5 posted on 05/07/2013 11:11:30 AM PDT by kevao (.)
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To: rickmichaels

And the “visions” tend to correlate with whatever the person was trained to believe in. Like that kid whose book sold well last year or so, who “saw” a blonde-hair, blue-eyed Jesus.


6 posted on 05/07/2013 11:13:29 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: rickmichaels

We scientists are a religious lot. As Einstein used to say in talking of the existence of God, “God does not roll dice.”


7 posted on 05/07/2013 11:13:38 AM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: rickmichaels
Colton Burpo, now 13, “died” 10 years ago from a ruptured appendix, and spent three minutes of earthly time in heaven

It is appointed unto man once to die, then the judgement.

8 posted on 05/07/2013 11:14:15 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: self

ping


9 posted on 05/07/2013 11:22:44 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: James C. Bennett

Even if you took God out of the equation there is far too much evidence that suggests there is life after death. Tales of reincarnation, ghost stories, out of body experiences where they one back with knowledge they could not have possibly known or observed things that are other worldly and unfamiliar to them. I’ve literally heard thousands myself because this is one thing my wife is really into. Even taking into account charlatans / hoaxers the evidence is overwhelming. I’m guessing once the scientific immunity really e mbraces this that the liberals may start to worry. Maybe they have been the ones with closed minds that lacked sufficient creativity or imagination to believe that another reality may exist right around them. After you usually can’t see nitrogen or oxygen but you breath it every day.


10 posted on 05/07/2013 11:28:31 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Graybeard58
It is appointed unto man once to die, then the judgement.

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It seems rather obvious to me that human beings, regardless of intelligence, have absolutely no idea “how” death occurs - not all the signs of death are physical - if so, we have not learned to detect them.

Is anyone who was “brought back” ever really dead in the first place? I don't think so. The thought of it staggers my mind.

Satan can truly deceive.

11 posted on 05/07/2013 11:29:38 AM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: rickmichaels

<”And the stories offer similar proofs”>

And the stories were all deception...amid drugs and vivid imaginations.


12 posted on 05/07/2013 11:32:20 AM PDT by caww
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To: rickmichaels

I love reading things like this. People who believe in Heaven, but not Hell, or Heaven, but not God, are cowards. They want all of the beauty that faith brings, but not any of the responsibilities. Their stance is, “I’m going to Heaven whatever I do and no one judges me for anything”

I have to ask these people if they believe they’ll meet Ted Bundy and Hitler in Heaven. Their disbelief in God is usually grounded in “rationality”, yet they find belief in Heaven to be perfectly reasonable.

In the end, these people are what’s known as “cowardly atheists”, and I am related to a few of them. They embrace atheist disbelief in divinity to avoid having to subject themselves to any kind of objective right and wrong, however unlike Dawkins and other members of the hardcore elite, they just cannot bring themselves to the logical conclusion of their beliefs. That when they die, that’s all there is. They will never see their dead loved ones ever again, because humans are just bags of meat.

I can’t help but shake my head at people like this. They eat from both sides of the plate.
The facts are these. There is a Heaven. There is a Hell. Our actions in this life determine where we shall end up.


13 posted on 05/07/2013 11:40:09 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: GreyFriar

Afterlife ping.


14 posted on 05/07/2013 11:43:57 AM PDT by zot
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To: KittenClaws
Is anyone who was “brought back” ever really dead in the first place? I don't think so. The thought of it staggers my mind.

Jesus? Lazarus?

15 posted on 05/07/2013 11:43:59 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: rickmichaels

No one ever mentions their dead pets in these NDEs. I’ve always wondered about that.


16 posted on 05/07/2013 11:52:32 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: BipolarBob

Jesus? Lazarus?
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Apples, Oranges


17 posted on 05/07/2013 11:53:09 AM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: rickmichaels

This article states that none of the books talk about hell. I read one by a college professor from KY who ‘died’ in Paris, in which he was being dragged to hell by a host of demons before being saved. Can’t remember the name, but it was much better than the Mary Neal book I just finished.


18 posted on 05/07/2013 11:53:14 AM PDT by redangus
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To: BipolarBob

Bueller?


19 posted on 05/07/2013 11:54:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: KittenClaws
Is anyone who was “brought back” ever really dead in the first place? I don't think so.

What of Lazarus?

20 posted on 05/07/2013 12:05:06 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
My comments are specific to the subject matter.

None of them were resurrected by an act of faith (either by themselves or of others), by God Himself, nor a Miracle performed by Jesus.

They “said” they died, man-made machines may have “said” they died - perhaps they were even resuscitated by men. That is not to say they were yet “dead”.

21 posted on 05/07/2013 12:11:28 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: rickmichaels

The spiritual realm is constantly trying to communicate with us on this Earth. The story being told is not what we were told in Sunday school or in ancient times.


22 posted on 05/07/2013 12:12:50 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: rickmichaels
But Wiese’s book also went nowhere because hell no longer possesses the power it once held in Christianity. That’s particularly remarkable within an American religious milieu that was always attentive to warnings of hellfire.

That is an interesting comment but one that is true. Christians rarely talk about hell any longer. It's almost as if they're embarrassed by the topic. But it is a fact that our Lord Jesus talked more of hell than He did of heaven. For those who are interested: Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God

23 posted on 05/07/2013 12:18:41 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: KittenClaws

Ah, then I merely misunderstood what you were getting at.


24 posted on 05/07/2013 12:20:09 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Brett66
The spiritual realm is constantly trying to communicate with us on this Earth. The story being told is not what we were told in Sunday school or in ancient times.

And if they are in rebellion, then it only makes sense they would wish to spread disinformation.

25 posted on 05/07/2013 12:22:42 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: rickmichaels

Bttt


26 posted on 05/07/2013 12:36:58 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: rickmichaels

I would be interested in a NDE account by a person who verifyably had not been previously exposed to any organized religion. I did read a book once called, I believe, 13 minutes in hell. It was about a man whose NDE wasn’t about a heavenly experience, but of the pure anguish and existence void of God in hell. Scary book.


27 posted on 05/07/2013 12:37:50 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: rickmichaels

Bookmarked.


28 posted on 05/07/2013 12:45:43 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: rickmichaels

I don’t wanna go tot he afterlife, I wanna hang around as a ghost and haunt all of the liberals...

At least for a few thousand years....


29 posted on 05/07/2013 12:47:04 PM PDT by GraceG
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...much less the unconditional love that I now know God and the universe have toward us.

Ok... If that is so, why did we need Lucifer?

Rhetorical.

There IS an afterlife, but IMO what you want out of it goes a long way towards predicting what you'll get out of it. No proof, just my opinion.

30 posted on 05/07/2013 12:51:36 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: stuartcr

Someone had a pet butterfly.


31 posted on 05/07/2013 12:56:24 PM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: Gadsden1st

Hopefully all sentient beings are there.


32 posted on 05/07/2013 1:07:19 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

“No one ever mentions their dead pets in these NDEs.”

Sure they do. All the time. Don’t you listen to George Noory?


33 posted on 05/07/2013 1:22:12 PM PDT by Zuse
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To: OneWingedShark

Widow of Nain’s son? Jairus’s daughter?


34 posted on 05/07/2013 1:25:27 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Zuse

I’m not familiar with him


35 posted on 05/07/2013 1:36:23 PM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: jsanders2001

I believe. I’ve read the books by George Anderson and went with a colleague to see John Edwards once in one of his performances. Edwards contacted this colleague’s deceased father and told him things that Edwards had no way of knowing - such as that the father spoke in tongues at church when he was alive.

After my best friend (not the colleague mentioned above) was murdered, his family and I went to a psychic. The psychic said that my deceased friend wanted his family to have the $100 dollars that he had hidden in his room. His room was locked and we had to climb in through a window, but the $100 bill was right where we were told to find it.

My friend’s spirit also told the psychic to tell us to forgive his murderer and to feel compassion for him.


36 posted on 05/07/2013 1:42:42 PM PDT by A'elian' nation
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To: stuartcr

For anyone who may be interested read the book that started me becoming interested in the NDE’S phenomenon. “Return From Tomorrow”, written by Dr. E. Gorden Ritchie while he had an NDE during basic training in WWII.


37 posted on 05/07/2013 1:57:07 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: rickmichaels

I am not an atheist or denier of an afterlife, but a near-death experience is not a death experience.


38 posted on 05/07/2013 2:00:18 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: KittenClaws

Here are a few:

Acts 9:36-41 - Peter raises Tabitha

Luke 7:11-16 - Nain’s Son

Mark 5:35-43 Jairus’ Sick Daughter

II Ki 4:20-37 - A Resurrection by prophet Elisha


39 posted on 05/07/2013 2:00:50 PM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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Ah, then I merely misunderstood what you were getting at.

That's right OWS, I was not speaking of REAL Miracles or Biblical resurrections - just the topic of "after death experiences".

40 posted on 05/07/2013 2:08:32 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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41 posted on 05/07/2013 2:21:04 PM PDT by ELS
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To: KittenClaws

For what it’s worth, I saw an interview once with a man who claimed to have died and reentered his body while it was being autopsied. If he wasn’t really dead, then somebody made a very big boo-boo.


42 posted on 05/07/2013 2:28:51 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: gop4lyf
Check the book “To Hell and Back” by Dr. Maurice Rawlings. His collection of anecdotes suggest that atheists will be in for a surprise.
43 posted on 05/07/2013 2:30:13 PM PDT by Zuse
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44 posted on 05/07/2013 2:39:26 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: zot

thank you.


45 posted on 05/07/2013 4:31:03 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: KittenClaws
That's right OWS, I was not speaking of REAL Miracles or Biblical resurrections - just the topic of "after death experiences".

Um, if they (Jesus, Lazarus, etc) were miraculously brought back from the dead, then everything experienced after that is an "after death experience."
;)

46 posted on 05/07/2013 4:44:32 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: rickmichaels; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; Godzilla; Elsie; ...

WATCH (Prove all things)
http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/Amazing/ (various amazing testimonies)
NDE Research: Gary habermas Near Death Experiences and the Afterlife (Video File download) http://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/context/lts_fac_pubs/article/1214/type/native/viewcontent
Glimpse of Eternity with Ian McCormack: stung by box jellyfish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1-ezZ9hkD8
Download: http://www.divinerevelations.info/Documents/ian_mccormack/Glimps_of_Eternity_GoodQuality.mp4
Dr Maurice Rawlings - NDE – Interviews: To Hell and Back; including an atheist) Download: http://media.tbn.org/download/tbn/gallery/To_Hell_And_Back.wmv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M19g4KtVAGQ ( Mickey Robinson — air crash to Christ)
Roman Gutierrez — “Twice” dead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh38mI498C0
Channel 7 news — man raised from dead after 40 minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRoAcfzytCA
23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysqXNRdZ4V8
Matthew Botsford - To Hell and Back http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/Amazing/Matthew_Botsford011206.aspx
Deerinda Lowe Gets A Second Chance http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/amazing/Deerinda-Lowe-120810.aspx
The Day Jeffrey Thompson Almost Died http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/amazing/Jeffrey-Thompson-072810.aspx


47 posted on 05/07/2013 6:14:24 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Zuse

Dr Maurice Rawlings - NDE – Interviews: To Hell and Back; including an atheist) Download: http://media.tbn.org/download/tbn/gallery/To_Hell_And_Back.wmv


48 posted on 05/07/2013 6:15:28 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Viennacon
The facts are these. There is a Heaven. There is a Hell. Our actions in this life determine where we shall end up.
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You should spend more time reading the bible and less time coming up with your own facts. Jesus Christ would greatly disagree with you.

49 posted on 05/07/2013 6:37:27 PM PDT by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: bramps

Repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ are actions.


50 posted on 05/07/2013 6:43:51 PM PDT by Viennacon
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