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Explosive Materials Background Check Act Revealed
The Truth About Guns ^ | May 7, 2013 | Nick Leghorn

Posted on 05/07/2013 1:03:55 PM PDT by Mama25

We’ve reported on Frank Lautenberg’s knee-jerk Explosive Materials Background Check Act before, but now that the full text has been released people have begun to parse out exactly how bad this thing is. Unfortunately, since it simply re-writes existing law instead of creating new law, it’s fairly hard to understand all the moving parts. Jesse over at Predator Intelligence has a document he put together that shows how the EMBCA amends Federal law to screw over gun owners. Here’s what I take away from this . . .

■Requires those who want to use black or smokeless powder to obtain a “limited” explosives license. ANY AMOUNT OF LOOSE BLACK OR SMOKELESS POWDER WOULD REQUIRE SUCH A PERMIT. Commercial small arms ammunition (finished cartridges) is exempt. For now. ■The bill redefines “manufacturer” in terms of explosives to mean anyone who makes something that goes boom, even if it isn’t for sale or profit. Previously, you needed to be “in the business” of manufacturing to qualify as a manufacturer, which means making a profit from your endeavors. As the current law makes the manufacture of an explosive without a license illegal, this is pretty clearly a stab at making tannerite and other binary explosives that people assemble themselves illegal. ■It expands the factors that would exclude someone from purchasing “explosive materials” to include those who have a restraining order against them. ■Restricts those who are suspected of being terrorists or on one of the many secret terrorist watch lists from obtaining a license for explosive materials, turning the “shall issue” explosives permit process into a “may issue” permit at the Attorney General’s discretion. And they don’t have to tell you why you were denied, or provide a means of redress.

In short, it looks like this bill is specifically designed to restrict the ability of those who load their own ammunition or use black powder firearms from buying the components that fuel their activities. Keep in mind that right now, gun stores don’t need an additional license to sell black powder or smokeless powder. You can even buy it online and have it shipped to your door for a modest fee.

Should this bill pass, gun owners would need to pay $50 every three years to buy and store gunpowder. And gun stores would need a whole new set of licenses to sell the stuff. This is an immense financial burden to law abiding Americans involved with firearms, and doesn’t do a damned thing about fireworks. Or pressure cookers.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackpowderhunters; guncontrol; muzzleloaders; muzzleloading; secondamendment

1 posted on 05/07/2013 1:03:55 PM PDT by Mama25
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To: Mama25; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

2 posted on 05/07/2013 1:05:52 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Mama25

Guess I better start stocking up, in case this one makes it through. These gun grabbers are starting to bankrupt me...


3 posted on 05/07/2013 1:06:03 PM PDT by apillar
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To: sasquatch

Bonk


4 posted on 05/07/2013 1:07:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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To: Mama25

This isn’t a knee jerk reaction. It is a calculated attack on reloaders.


5 posted on 05/07/2013 1:08:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Mama25

BATFE already has a strict licensing program for explosives. This is just harassment.


6 posted on 05/07/2013 1:11:47 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Mama25
Yep, pretty dangerous stuff. Photo of terrorist here. She is definitely on DHS watch

list!

7 posted on 05/07/2013 1:14:02 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Mama25

Would Mentos and Diet Pepsi be on the list?


8 posted on 05/07/2013 1:15:47 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Mama25

Printable guns? OK first they control the ammo supply via lezbo, THEN they go after reloaders —what this is.


9 posted on 05/07/2013 1:17:55 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Mama25

Lord, forgive me for the dance of joy I will do when this POS assumes his well deserved residence in Hell.


10 posted on 05/07/2013 1:21:48 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: Mama25

Not surprised....

“WARNING: Laws being written to screw you.”

“I work on a security commission and I’ve just received word to start campaigning on a campaign we’ve been working on for the last two months and now it all makes sense.”

“They’re going to pin this event on a male late teens to early 20’s and say he did it because he’s unstable. They are going to find firearms and a NRA book in his home. They are going to say he used reloading powder for the explosion and that reloading powder shouldn’t be for sale to the public. They are then going to say that because the powder in ammunition can be used for explosions that the number of rounds you can buy should be limited and taxed to help pay for these events.”

“I can’t do anything or I’ll lose my job and possibly face criminal charges. Please don’t let them get away with it. They won’t find the suspect till later this week and the raid is issued to occur on Friday. This was a staged event. The people hurt are real but the event was planned. Don’t let them hurt our rights.” ~ 4/15/13 ‘Anonymous’


11 posted on 05/07/2013 1:23:47 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

MRE heaters will be next...


12 posted on 05/07/2013 1:27:51 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Mama25

IEDs are being built with “Match Heads”....

For crying out loud are we gonna ban matches...

Every Boy Scout will now be classified as a terrorist...


13 posted on 05/07/2013 1:37:37 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Mama25

Should this bill pass, gun owners would need to pay $50 every three years to buy and store gunpowder. And gun stores would need a whole new set of licenses to sell the stuff. This is an immense financial burden to law abiding Americans involved with firearms, and doesn’t do a damned thing about fireworks. Or pressure cookers.

The Bill needs to re-named: “The Extra Bloated not-needed Beer-o-crap employment act”

It is a “JOBS” bill, right Biden...


14 posted on 05/07/2013 1:39:01 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Mama25
i guess "shall not be infringed" doesn't mean what it use to
15 posted on 05/07/2013 1:41:57 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Mama25

Also I think this would finally kill model rocketry completely.


16 posted on 05/07/2013 1:43:12 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Mama25

I GUESS THAT DIESEL AND FERTILIZER ARE GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN.


17 posted on 05/07/2013 1:49:16 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: null and void
We'll need a license for food?.......
18 posted on 05/07/2013 1:51:00 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Mama25

Lautenberg the idiot fossil just needs to retire. The bobsy twins up in Mass. used FIREWORKS. Already illegal by statute.


19 posted on 05/07/2013 1:55:28 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: null and void

it just gets worse and worse


20 posted on 05/07/2013 1:58:12 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yep. Napolitano has a lock on all available ammo, and this ‘background check’ nails down the reloaders. That about covers it. National database complete.


21 posted on 05/07/2013 1:58:45 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Mama25
All of these bills are fueling the hoarding out there. I haven't seen a brick of small rifle primers in months. I occasionally find small pistol primers. No luck with 8 lb containers of powder and I haven't been able to find jacketed bullets in bulk for two months. (Note: I buy primers and powder locally since I don't want to pay Hazmat fee associating shipping on purchases over the Internet - another f'n government regulation.)

If there was any powder available there would be a run on it.

Maybe it is time to learn how to make gun powder. Swaging bullets is definitely feasible, but setup costs are a bit high. Making primers is tedious but doable. I'm not worried about brass, if I shot my brass to failure, I would wear out the barrels on all my weapons.

22 posted on 05/07/2013 2:12:43 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: Mama25

Yeah, this will screw innocent reloaders and those of us that have been shooting black powder antique muzzle loaders (without killing anyone) for decades.


23 posted on 05/07/2013 2:15:20 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Mama25
Mildy on-topic, Powder Valley has 500 count 69 grain and 77 grain .223 Sierra Match Kings in stock.
24 posted on 05/07/2013 2:21:23 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GraceG
Every Boy Scout will now be classified as a terrorist...

That's homophobic terrorist to you, bub!

25 posted on 05/07/2013 2:28:24 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: Mama25

This nation has turned into one giant classroom where if one student farts, the entire class is punished.


26 posted on 05/07/2013 2:37:15 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Mama25
Requires those who want to use black or smokeless powder to obtain a “limited” explosives license.

Been there, done that, got the flag...

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27 posted on 05/07/2013 2:47:11 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Inyo-Mono
Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers.


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28 posted on 05/07/2013 2:49:12 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Mama25
Availability of reloading components has been screwed since Obama's election. The big stores once carried every imaginable bullet caliber, weight and style from multiple manufacturers. Ditto for brass, powders and primers. That stuff is nearly impossible to get anymore.

Before I left San Diego for Idaho, my wife and I would each shoot 300 rds a week. The brass would get "laundered" in the vibratory cleaner on Saturday night. I would reload 600 to 1000 rds on Sunday night while listening to Drudge. A box of 1,000 primers and two 500 count boxes of bullets would be consumed. It was revolver brass, so it all came home. A 1 lb can of powder cost $20. Ditto for 1,000 primers. At a nominal 5 gr powder per round, I could reload 1400 rounds with that single can. A box of 148 gr DEWC in .357 caliber set me back $27 for 250. The gun shop loved the business. I had a great hobby. That's pretty much eliminated by a meddling government...for no good reason at all. The indoor range collected the spent bullets and sold the lead to a bullet casting company. Everything but the powder and primers was carefully recycled.

29 posted on 05/07/2013 2:50:17 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

And the damnedest thing about is that the Marathon bombers didn’t even use black powder from a reloading supply shop! They used powder taken from fireworks!


30 posted on 05/07/2013 2:53:47 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Mama25

Aluminum powder and rust are explosives [thermite]-

Aluminum cans, foil and tin cans now will be confiscated after usage by your local ATF recycling plant.


31 posted on 05/07/2013 3:07:33 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: bunkerhill7

BATF may want to stay clear of my backblast area

32 posted on 05/07/2013 3:32:33 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: allblues
You might find this article an interesting read.
(I only skimmed it, but the parts I did read seemed good.)
33 posted on 05/07/2013 4:52:41 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Kimberly GG

You bring up a good point.
I didn’t hear anything about the raid, did it turn up NRA and firearm paraphernalia? (But up until that point everything seemed to follow that prediction.)


34 posted on 05/07/2013 4:55:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GraceG

There oughta be a law!


35 posted on 05/07/2013 5:25:29 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Mama25

Like the other prongs in the effort, it’s a class war against the Second Amendment for the rabble. And at the other end of the default process, we’ll all be members of the rabble.


36 posted on 05/07/2013 6:08:43 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Mama25

After analysis, it’s an attempt to register reloaders, and more immediately, to cut off supplies for even longer. If consumers are wise enough, for the mere presentation of such a threat, the political/regulator class won’t get their hunting tourism season and revenues. Besides, save what you have, folks, and avoid expending it. There might not be any more.


37 posted on 05/07/2013 6:15:53 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Mama25

Being insane doesn’t mean that you can’t be elected to the Senate or the White House.

America, what a place!


38 posted on 05/07/2013 6:35:10 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Mama25
the terrorists took apart fireworks for the powder so NOW the RATS will try and screw over hand loaders...
39 posted on 05/07/2013 7:09:32 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Mama25

Well, at least, this latest statist legalist action, is in well within the bonded legalism of the NDAA. Oh Joy! Vote Lt.Col. Allen West, what ever he runs for and however. Just remember- He runs for your emoted wonderfulness.


40 posted on 05/07/2013 7:24:30 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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