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Boy who held pencil like gun suspended
Fox 43 ^ | 5/7/2013 | Anne McNamara

Posted on 05/07/2013 3:17:44 PM PDT by markomalley

A Suffolk school suspended a second grader for pointing a pencil at another student and making gun noises.

Seven-year-old Christopher Marshall says he was playing with another student in class Friday, when the teacher at Driver Elementary asked them to stop pointing pencils at each other.

"When I asked him about it, he said, 'Well I was being a Marine and the other guy was being a bad guy,'" said Paul Marshall, the boy's father. "It's as simple as that."

Christopher's father was a Marine for many years. He thinks school leaders overreacted.

"A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made," said Bethanne Bradshaw, a spokesperson for Suffolk Public Schools.

The Suffolk school system has a "zero tolerance policy" when it comes to weapons. And, Bradshaw admits, that policy has tightened up in recent years because of widely publicized school shootings.

"Some children would consider it threatening, who are scared about shootings in schools or shootings in the community," said Bradshaw. "Kids don't think about 'Cowboys and Indians' anymore, they think about drive-by shootings and murders and everything they see on television news every day."

But Christopher's parents say school administrators failed to use common sense. Christopher has good grades and no history of being disruptive in class. They pointed out a line on the suspension notice, where the teacher wrote, "I told him to stop and he did."

"Enough is enough," said Paul Marshall. "I see it as the tail is now wagging the dog."

And while Christopher can play freely at home, he says he won't pretend to play with guns at school in the future.

Bethanne Bradshaw with Suffolk Public Schools says both students were suspended for two days. The other student was also 7 years old.

According to school policy, suspensions can last up to 10 days. The school makes that determination based on the situation, the student's age and behavioral history.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; discipline; guncontrol; secondamendment; suffolk; waronboys

1 posted on 05/07/2013 3:17:44 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I guess playing cowboys and indians is out too.


2 posted on 05/07/2013 3:22:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: markomalley

Now, if he had been playing with a condom, he would have gotten extra credit.


3 posted on 05/07/2013 3:22:17 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: markomalley

“A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made,” said Bethanne Bradshaw, a spokesperson for Suffolk Public Schools.

No it’s not, it’s a pencil. Only an idiot liberal(I repeat myself) would mistake a pencil for a gun.


4 posted on 05/07/2013 3:22:25 PM PDT by Stevenc131
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To: markomalley
They're scared because you remind them every day.

No one talked about the war after WWII in front of children. We were never scared. Our parents protected us from the horrors of war.

Secure your schools through re-design.

Stop driving the kids nuts.

5 posted on 05/07/2013 3:22:34 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley
Mental Psy-ops to condition the skulls of mush to think "Guns Bad" "Guns baaaaddd"

Eric Holder said he wanted to brainwash the kids....

Zero Tolerance does this...

6 posted on 05/07/2013 3:23:14 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: markomalley

If I had a kid in elementary school right now, especially a boy, I’d just wait for the phone to ring.

Sooner or later, every boy is going to point and say ‘bang’.


7 posted on 05/07/2013 3:25:13 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: markomalley
Just shut up and do whatever Ubama's civilian army tells you to do.
8 posted on 05/07/2013 3:25:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: markomalley

To be accurate, he held a pencil like a gun, not a gun-like pencil.


9 posted on 05/07/2013 3:25:46 PM PDT by ruptured duck (He shoots....and boom goes the dynamite!)
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To: Sacajaweau

And removing them from our kids too...


10 posted on 05/07/2013 3:27:05 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: ruptured duck

He held the pencil as if it were a gun.


11 posted on 05/07/2013 3:27:13 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: markomalley

WOW! This is all it takes today to get out of going to screwls. I’m surprised a whole class hasn’t pull this stunt.


12 posted on 05/07/2013 3:28:07 PM PDT by Digger
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To: markomalley

I teach and yesterday a kid brought one of those CO2 powered BB pistols to class. My hands are tied in that situation and had to take the kid to the office. I was able to keep the kid from being suspended or expelled but he got ISS for a few days. I’m sure he would have been hung, drawn, and quartered in some places in this country.


13 posted on 05/07/2013 3:30:40 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: markomalley

Can they think about guns? I used to sit in class and daydream about hunting. Sometimes I daydreamed about plinking for fun. And when I was in high school shotguns and rifles were in lots vehicles on the school lot and no one gave them a second thought. Amazingly enough, all those guns never did shoot up our school. Now kids are endangered by good old Ticonderoga #2’s. Pathetic!

These nazis are ruining a great country.


14 posted on 05/07/2013 3:32:57 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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You all realize that we are allowing certified crazy people to teach and watch over our children. And we are doing it WILLINGLY!


15 posted on 05/07/2013 3:33:31 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko
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To: .45 Long Colt

I’m going to glue a picatinny rail to a good ole #2 pencil and make it an assault weapon.


16 posted on 05/07/2013 3:34:59 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko
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To: markomalley
I cannot stand how far our nation has fallen.

This was my favorite toy when I was 7 years old, back in the days when boys were boys, and gun crime was really pretty rare because most of us actually had values.

Mattel Fanner 50.

17 posted on 05/07/2013 3:35:37 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: markomalley

Morons: a pencil is a weapon when it is thrust into the eye socket of an adversary or otherwise used as a stabbing weapon; pencil is a toy when pointed at another person while saying “pow, pow” or “bang, bang”.


18 posted on 05/07/2013 3:36:24 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: markomalley
Everyone should be home-schooling. Everyone.

And if the parents aren't smart enough because they went to the public schools, too, then the grandparents should do it. Who would put their kids through this nonsense?

19 posted on 05/07/2013 3:37:07 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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To: markomalley

Wow! I wonder if my finger gun pointed at the TV every time someone peeing on the Constitution is legal?

I am in big trouble now...


20 posted on 05/07/2013 3:38:35 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: markomalley

SEE!!!

Guns don’t kill people, gun NOISES kill people!

Proposed ammendment to the gun ban....ban making gun noises with mouth or any other body part or combination thereof.

If he’d only stopped with the pencil, this could have ended peacefully.


21 posted on 05/07/2013 3:38:40 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: markomalley

Any time you see reference to a “zero tolerance policy”, you can automatically substitute “liberal, zero brains policy”.


22 posted on 05/07/2013 3:39:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: markomalley

How about some school ‘diversity’ - maybe half the teachers could be conservative - or at least have IQ’s above 102...


23 posted on 05/07/2013 3:39:07 PM PDT by GOPJ ( A gang rape by eight isn't 'immigration reform'... Send the 33 million illegals home.)
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To: markomalley

I just can’t understand why these parents don’t SUE

The kids have a right to have an education a
and to not have a mark on their record

I would sue the Teacher Personally, sue the principal personally, and sue the school board.

I couldnt care less about their stupid policy, it needs to be challenged in court

Someone needs to fight back against these Brainwashing Bullies and make them think twice


24 posted on 05/07/2013 3:40:55 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot
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To: markomalley
The parents need to find an Attorney who will sue the school district. Then put the school personnel on the witness stand and have each one of them describe the ammo cartridge that is loaded into the pencil, how and where the bullet projectile leaves the pencil, and at what muzzle velocity.

When they cannot answer the questions, asks the judge for a default judgement and 10 million dollars.

25 posted on 05/07/2013 3:42:31 PM PDT by Chief901 (Tyranny coming to an area near you soon !)
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To: markomalley
The school authorities are engaging in magical thinking.

The fact is, no matter how many noises are made, the pencil will never become a firearm!

Who let these phonies into the public school system? They should be in prison where they can't hurt anybody else.

26 posted on 05/07/2013 3:43:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Pop Tart “guns”, pencil “guns”, Hello Kitty bubble “guns”. . .what’s next? It’s time to send a message that this nonsense is going to be met with heavy resistance. I say these idiots should be sued and, if possible, they should lose their jobs. Hysterical and imbalanced people shouldn’t be in a position of responsibility, especially over kids.


27 posted on 05/07/2013 3:43:08 PM PDT by Hayride
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28 posted on 05/07/2013 3:53:18 PM PDT by B4Ranch (http://www.theycometoamerica.com/)
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To: colorado tanker
If the boy had pointed one of those at another boy he would have been invited to a celebrity gala event at the WH, all expenses paid.
29 posted on 05/07/2013 3:53:50 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: markomalley

If your child, grandchild are ever subjected to this type of situation, you might consider having the police come to the scene and perform a gunpowder residue test.

When/if they asks why, tell them this will be used as evidence in the lawsuit you will be filing for subjecting you child to punishment based on bias.


30 posted on 05/07/2013 3:53:57 PM PDT by Chief901 (Tyranny coming to an area near you soon !)
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To: Hayride

Hopefully I’ll only encounter frosted Pop-Tart “guns”.

Then, only a snack appetite is necessary to avert “disaster”.

This country has just gone plain silly.


31 posted on 05/07/2013 3:55:35 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: markomalley

Bill Ayres has a hand in this. These reactions are occurring all over the country. School personnel have been told what to do. By Ayres and his ‘cohort’ who have ‘absolute access’ to the classroom.

I refer you to Postman and Weingarten: “Teaching as a Subversive Activity” (1970)

http://www.amazon.com/Teaching-Subversive-Activity-Neil-Postman/dp/0385290098/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367967444&sr=1-1&keywords=teaching+as+a+subversive+activity


32 posted on 05/07/2013 3:58:18 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

April 25, 2008
“Bill Ayers and the Subversion of Education’
By Ed Lasky
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/bill_ayers_and_the_subversion.html


33 posted on 05/07/2013 4:00:10 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: markomalley
"'A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made,' said Bethanne Bradshaw, a spokesperson for Suffolk Public Schools."

So with her line of thinking, a weapon is a pencil when it is pointed at someone in a non-threatening way and writing noises are made.

34 posted on 05/07/2013 4:02:12 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: The_Reader_David
pencil is a toy when pointed at another person while saying “pow, pow” or “bang, bang”.

It only means that toys are banned. The end goal is to grow - and in a very short time frame, like 10 years - a generation of men who cannot even *think* of guns. The 2A may remain the law, but it won't mean much if the majority of population does not want to use it. The population will disarm itself; at the same time the government gets more voters who want to ban guns, since they don't have them and don't know what they are.

35 posted on 05/07/2013 4:02:16 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: markomalley

The people implementing this policy are graduates of the school system they now administer. Graduates with advanced degrees, no less.

Leave your kids in this system and you’ll get kids too dumb to come in out of the rain, thoroughly conditioned to snap sloppily to attention when Big Brother speaks.

Yessir. Three bags full sir.


36 posted on 05/07/2013 4:05:34 PM PDT by marron
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To: markomalley

When I was a kid, marksmanship was taught at the high school. Junior high kids were bussed over for shooting lessons.


37 posted on 05/07/2013 4:07:42 PM PDT by marron
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To: markomalley

Crips

If they had this level of stupid when I was in elementary
school would have been on death row .......


38 posted on 05/07/2013 4:10:24 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: NormsRevenge

We have a whole neighborhood of little boys under the age of 12. Several 4 year olds were engaged in a shooting match last Sunday during our monthly pot luck. Asked one if they were playing Cowboys and Indians and he said “No ma’am, we’re playing Cops and Robbers. You probably don’t remember how because you’re not a boy.”

Some 6 and 7 year olds were also engaged in a gun battle but theirs was a military ambush since the mom of one of them was in the Army and just ended her enlistment this last year. Dad is still serving and is an MP. One of the 6 year olds came running over and announced their side had just defeated the Taliban.

The 11 and 12 year olds were all playing some version of Star Wars on their iPads.

The adults were drinking beer and eating BBQ and boiled crawfish.

Generational activities in a Texas neighborhood on Sunday afternoon.


39 posted on 05/07/2013 4:14:35 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is ridiculous. Nothing like making adults look like idiots to kids. What a waste of time and energy.


40 posted on 05/07/2013 4:15:16 PM PDT by DallasSun
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To: markomalley
It was a Ticonderoga pencil.
41 posted on 05/07/2013 4:22:25 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: DanielRedfoot

“I just can’t understand why these parents don’t SUE”

I don’t understand why conservatives don’t show up at schoolboard meetings by the thousands.

Oh, wait. Yes, I do. They’re busy remodeling kitchens, barbecuing ribs and worshipping mammon.


42 posted on 05/07/2013 4:23:31 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: markomalley

We shouldn’t be fighting this. In fact we should allow ANY excuse to get kids out of the gummint schools.


43 posted on 05/07/2013 4:33:46 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Progressives program of gun control.


44 posted on 05/07/2013 4:52:29 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: markomalley

My grandkids (and friends) play “gun” at school using their fingers.
Typical thumb up, index finger out - if the teacher asks what they are doing they say ‘boomerang’. They tilt their hands sideways, pretend like they are throwing it, pulling in their fingers and then the kids they are playing with “catches it” or misses it and it comes back to the thrower, and finger/thumb go back up.

Kids will as they always have figure out how to play “cowboys and Indians” (or some sort of shoot’m up game).


45 posted on 05/07/2013 4:55:24 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: markomalley

“A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made,”

Well, when I am holding a pencil, it is my p***s, and I am playing gay boys. So is it still a WEAPON????


46 posted on 05/07/2013 5:02:32 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

I would give twenty bucks to see the resulting meltdown from that...

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47 posted on 05/07/2013 5:11:42 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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Can we take a stand against these Nazis?


48 posted on 05/07/2013 5:21:01 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: mass55th

None of us are worthy to be in the shadow of your presence ~ post of the day!


49 posted on 05/07/2013 5:54:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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