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Now China Says It May Own Okinawa, Too
TBI ^ | 5-8-2013 | Agence France Presse

Posted on 05/08/2013 6:10:24 AM PDT by blam

Now China Says It May Own Okinawa, Too

Agence France Presse
May 8, 2013

US Sale Of Armed Drones To Japan And South Korea Would Transform Tensions In The Pacific China's top newspaper on Wednesday published a call for a review of Japan's sovereignty over the island of Okinawa -- home to major US bases -- with the Asian powers already embroiled in a territorial row.

The lengthy article in the People's Daily, China's most-circulated newspaper and the mouthpiece of the ruling Communist party, argued that the country may have rights to the Ryukyu chain, which includes Okinawa.

The island is home to major US air force and marine bases as well as 1.3 million people, who are considered more closely related to Japan in ethnic and linguistic terms than to China.

The authors of the article, two scholars at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, considered China's top state-run think-tank, said the Ryukyus were a "vassal state" of China before Japan annexed the islands in the late 1800s.

"Unresolved problems relating to the Ryukyu Islands have reached the time for reconsideration," wrote Zhang Haipeng and Li Guoqiang, citing post-World War II declarations that required Japan to return Chinese territory.

The article also repeated Chinese government arguments for China's historical claims over a set of tiny uninhabited islets in the East China Sea known as Diaoyu in Chinese and Senkaku in Japanese.

The two nations have stepped up a war of words over the dispute in recent months, with Beijing's vessels regularly entering the waters around the Tokyo-controlled islands, stoking fears of armed conflict.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhoasia; china; cicobama; japan; militarybase; okinawa; redchina; war
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Most won’t pay for an American made shirt.

Triple (at least) the cost.

The only thing keeping inflation down is that we have exported our labor to slave economies and expanded credit to the moon.

I want to move the jobs back, but you have to be honest about the costs. Short term, our standard of living will take a huge hit when most can no longer afford the crap they buy now.


21 posted on 05/08/2013 7:09:28 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Just saying...

I used to be pro-free markets.

China is abusing “free” markets. We need to climb off that pedestal and bring back US jobs.

It will be arduous, but it beats military defeat.

Which is how this is starting to play out.

Bring back American jobs. Now.


22 posted on 05/08/2013 7:11:56 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: blam

Pretty soon, you will see the Russians say that they have rights to Hokkaido, because they were “Granted” it during WWII.


23 posted on 05/08/2013 7:17:52 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Amen.

Been doing this for a long, long time. I haven’t often done without a certain item because I refuse to buy anything made in China.


24 posted on 05/08/2013 7:20:50 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: tanknetter

The Japanese are already building aircraft carrying combat ships in response to the Chinese:

http://www.jeffhead.com/worldwideaircraftcarriers/16ddh.htm

And they have a larger class in planning:

http://www.freewebs.com/jeffhead/worldwideaircraftcarriers/22ddh.htm

If the Japanese want to go to the next level (aircraft carriers carrying 70-90 aircraft), the Japanese will have a number of advantages over the Chinese including access to still secret US carrier design technology.


25 posted on 05/08/2013 7:21:55 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort Today forges Tomorrow)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You’ll have to wait until the bombs and bullets start flying before we can see have good or bad the Chinese military is ,right now it’s just a lot of TALK


26 posted on 05/08/2013 7:41:14 AM PDT by molson209
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
China is the slave economy of the old south. Slave labor creates a false economy and our stores are flooded with affordable items due to slavery in China.

Before 1865, in the Old South, slave labor enriched the southern plantation owners, bankers, newspaper owners and the top of the food chain. Slave labor and King Cotton ruled the day. Chinese slaves working for Foxconn make iphones, ipads and provide off shore profits for American Companies. Chinese Slavery makes the world turn today.

Suicide nets in Chinese manufacturing 'cities' that are fancy prison compounds are visible by satellite. Forced abortions, sleepless work days, and no hope for a future face the Chinese slaves day in and day out.

As long as it is out of sight and out of mind, Chinese Slavery is AOK with the Demoncrats and GOP.

How many millions of Chinese Slaves are there? Who cares.

27 posted on 05/08/2013 7:43:55 AM PDT by x_plus_one (John Ransom: truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: molson209

Agreed.

I do not WANT to find out how good anyone’s bombs or bullets are, but we are on a rapidly failing glide path.

Our nation runs a trillion or so in debt a year. Our unemployment is high, so we need to support people with government handouts.

We send our factories elsewhere, where we need to pay foreigners to make when we end up buying (sending more money elsewhere), and we have continued this short-sighted nonsense now for nearly three decades.

Yet we think this (helps) us?

Wake up. Bring back American jobs.


28 posted on 05/08/2013 7:45:26 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Again, that is fine. But I doubt the majority of people will see it that way. Also, let’s face it. Most people don’t want to make shirts or such things.


29 posted on 05/08/2013 7:45:47 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your barking up the wrong tree bucko.

I might go for boycot China, but buy American what?


30 posted on 05/08/2013 7:55:26 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
How do you abuse a free market?

How do you move jobs? Do you box them up, or bottle them?

Does buying an inferior product made by Americans smack of racism or stupidity?

Speak of the underlying concepts of the problem and find answers, paint it with platitudes and get nowhere.

31 posted on 05/08/2013 7:59:46 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: redgolum

Look it goes (far) beyond shirts.

Go in any store. Any store. Anywhere in America.

Pick up anything. Or if it’s too big, tilt it over.

It will probably have been made in China.

Which means no Americans were hired, by the producer.

Which likewise means, someone in America is now on unemployment, collecting money from our government, to subsidize that things, so you can buy it.

Bring back US jobs.


32 posted on 05/08/2013 8:04:05 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: redgolum
Triple (at least) the cost.

We had another thread and did a cost analysis, a $14 shirt made in China would cost $16 man in the USA. More, but not a lot more.

33 posted on 05/08/2013 8:09:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: American in Israel
How do you abuse a free market?

How can you have a free market with a Communist Country?

34 posted on 05/08/2013 8:10:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

How can so called freedom loving people, like our resident free traders, be for commerce with a slave nation like China? The cognitive dissonance on display is astounding.


35 posted on 05/08/2013 8:13:12 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; central_va
CV,
Does that cost include employee health insurance, EPA/OSHA costs/ etc?

If a $14 dollar shirt will only cost $16 made in the US, then the textile market is a lot different from anything I have seen.

C.N.N. I agree with you. But can you get those living on the dole now to do the jobs? My plant pays north of $15 an hour, and we can't get people. This in an area with high unemployment. The reason? People get paid not to work, why would they go on shift?

Once you have been off work for eight months or so, it is hard to get them back.

36 posted on 05/08/2013 8:19:47 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: C210N
...as opposed to a nuclear-within-a-month...

Or nuked-up by the time you finish reading this post. They probably have all the components built, tested and sitting no further than 6" apart from each other awaiting assembly orders, and has probably had them there for decades.

37 posted on 05/08/2013 8:20:01 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: blam

“Okinawa has always been part of China”

Coming soon...

“The moon has always been part of China”


38 posted on 05/08/2013 8:21:30 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: blam
China is becoming a copy of 1930's Japan. The thing is, because China is officially a Communist country, they will get away with it while 1930's Japan was the bane of liberals everywhere (that was before Hiroshima and Nagasaki, when our war against Japan suddenly became "racist").

No matter how reactionary you are, if you call yourself a "Communist" no liberal will ever criticize you because of the golden rule of "no enemies on the left."

We should have declared ourselves officially a "Communist" country under Reagan and conquered the world!

39 posted on 05/08/2013 8:23:35 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: redgolum
Does that cost include employee health insurance, EPA/OSHA costs/ etc? If a $14 dollar shirt will only cost $16 made in the US, then the textile market is a lot different from anything I have seen.

The analysis is with $40.00 per hour workers in the US vs. virtually free Bangladesh labor. The other assumption was it takes 5 minutes of total labor to sew one shirt.

What Does that $14 shirt really cost?

See post Post 52

40 posted on 05/08/2013 8:28:50 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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