Skip to comments.Canada faces tough choice as naval resupply ships, icebreaker on collision course
Posted on 05/08/2013 8:50:40 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
The Canadian Coast Guard is also designing a new polar-class icebreaker, the CCGS John G. Diefenbaker, to replace its existing heavy icebreaker, the Louis S. St-Laurent (pictured), which is due to be retired in 2017.
The Harper government is going to have to decide whether resupplying Canadas navy or Arctic sovereignty is more important thanks to a looming collision at a Vancouver shipyard.
The Royal Canadian Navy is designing new joint support ships to replace its 50-year-old resupply vessels, which were supposed to have been retired in 2012 and have become environmentally unsound and prohibitively expensive to maintain.
The Canadian Coast Guard is also designing a new polar-class icebreaker, the CCGS John G. Diefenbaker, to replace its existing heavy icebreaker, the Louis S. St-Laurent, which is due to be retired in 2017.
But while both are expected to be ready for construction at the same time, the Vancouver shipyard slated to build them can only handle one project at a time.
This scheduling conflict was acknowledged in a recent Defence Department report tabled in Parliament, which noted that the Joint Support Ship and the Polar Icebreaker are progressing on a very similar schedule such that they both could be ready for construction at the same time.
The report goes on to say the first joint support ship will be delivered around by 2018, assuming JSS is not delayed by the initial Coast Guard projects and the Polar Icebreaker program.
Any delay in replacing the navys existing resupply vessels could be potentially devastating for the maritime fleet because new ships are needed immediately, while delays undercut the purchasing power of the $2.6 billion set aside for the project.
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Gonna need a bigger boat yard.......
Is Saint John Shipbuilding busy? They built some of the frigates back in the 1980s.
The headline needs a little work...LOL
I think there is some spare capacity in the US. We aren’t hardly doing s..t and it looks like we are going to be doing more and more of it.
The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarters Expenses?
IIRC there’s another yard on the east coast.
“environmentally unsound” - is that code for “they burn diesel fuel”?
Yeah, they should be solar powered. Would work real well in the long winter.
I understand that they probably want to keep all of their ship building within Canada, but I wonder if they have checked into the possibility of an American shipyard building the ice breaker. If it’s going to save them billions in the long run, might be worth doing.
Ingalls could probably use some work........
The Canadian yards are astoundingly expensive and inefficient but they have to build domestically for political reasons.
Maybe Canada could use the more environmental communist approved sled-dogs to pull them through the ice.
Looks like Canada will have to ship its ship building to Communist China....where everything else is going. They can make the Free Traders happy in the process
“The headline needs a little work...LOL”
LOL, that was my first thought as well. :)
Seriously, though; I don’t have any knowledge to comment intelligently, but there must be some Canada-based solution to the problem. I’m sure they’re working on it.
Will you please confirm that I am on any and all CANADA pinglists? I sure want to be!
(But sometimes I miss things)
Can't, cruelty to animals. The only acceptable use for sled dogs is the Idatarod.
You are now.
Halifax Shipyard, owned by the Irvings, has six 253 gross tonnage Canadian Coast Guard (CCG) patrol vessels to be completed before the end of 2014, so they may be unable to start new work. In addition, staffing might be a problem, as there are many Maritmers working in the trades in the Athabasca oil sands, particularly welders and draftsmen, so expansion might be difficult.
Chantier Davie Canada Inc. (Davie shipbuilding), of Levis, Quebec, with the largest drydock in Canada (1,148 ft), is likely not to be considered. Its JV, formed to bid on the 'National Shipbuilding Procurement Strategy', building ships for the CCG, RCN and the Departmewnt of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO), failed to win the bid so the partners pulled out of the JV. It would not make sense now, for Davie to bid now on the supply ships, without partners with deep pockets. Also, though support for separation in Quebec is low, given that the Quebec government is separatist, there is less chance of Davie getting a 'rush' contract from the Feds for any major ships.
That leaves Vancouver Shipyards, where the scheduling is the problem. They have lots of experience with larger ships like ferries, both ships and people (after all, it is the west coast!), but the scheduling of both the CCG icebreaker and replacements for HMCS Protecteur and HMCS Provider is the problem.
What would not surprise me would be if all three ships were laid down in Vancouver, with the first two, hulls only being completed and launched and then towed through the Panama Canal, one going to Halifax and one to Davie in Quebec, for completion of decks and powerplants. The third ship would be completed in Vancouver. It would cost a lot to do this, but governments are all about spending OUR money and winning elections, rather than being prudent guardians of the nation's wealth, even if they are called 'conservative'.
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