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Will Tyranny Ever Come to America?
Right Wing News ^ | May 8, 2013 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 05/08/2013 12:04:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Last week, President Obama traveled to Ohio to speak at the Ohio State University commencement. There, he trotted out his new favorite line of attack against Second Amendment advocates: He said it is unpatriotic to believe in the possibility of government tyranny. Why? According to Obama, the Founding Fathers created our government. The American dream and American government are one and the same. By definition then, believing in the possibility of government tyranny means opposing the Founding Fathers and the American dream.

Here’s how Obama expressed this nasty notion. He said that the Founders left us “the keys to a system of self-government, the tools to do big things and important things together that we could not possibly do alone … To conquer fascism and disease; to visit the Moon and Mars; to gradually secure our God-given rights for all our citizens, regardless of who they are, or what they look like, or who they love.”

Government, in Obama’s view, is the great guarantor of rights. Never mind that government — yes, government in America — has routinely stripped its citizens of rights. Never mind that state governments stripped black people of their basic personhood for decades, enshrining slavery with the help of the federal government. Never mind that for a century after slavery, state governments, with the silent assent of the federal government, enshrined Jim Crow. Never mind that the federal government stripped thousands of Japanese citizens of their rights during World War II and the unborn of their rights in 1973.

None of that matters to Obama. He said, “This country cannot accomplish great things if we pursue nothing greater than our own individual ambition.”

The Founders believed, to the contrary, that government’s job was to protect our most basic rights...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; fascism; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment; tyranny

1 posted on 05/08/2013 12:04:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Seems to me it is already here in the form of the Democrat party and their minions in the EPA, ATF, etc.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

2 posted on 05/08/2013 12:06:51 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish “hard tyranny” would just get here already. I’m not going to die on my knees, but the way they’re going, I won’t know that I’m on my knees when I’m killed anyway.


3 posted on 05/08/2013 12:12:35 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will it ever come to America?

It’s already here.


4 posted on 05/08/2013 12:14:42 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nah. That'll never happen.


5 posted on 05/08/2013 12:15:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Believe me . . . this dippy-doo did not write this speech . . . his puppet handlers wrote it, put it on a teleprompter for the puppet to read, and the sock-puppet read it. He’s only telling us what his handlers want us to hear.


6 posted on 05/08/2013 12:17:23 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where you been the last 20 years or so?


7 posted on 05/08/2013 12:18:08 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bammy also once again incorrectly referred to this country as our democracy....seems the Constitutional “scholar” forgot we’re a Constitutional Republic.

but, if you keep repeating the lie often enough, guvment educated low information voters will believe we’re a democracy.


8 posted on 05/08/2013 12:19:04 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The question is: Will it ever leave?


9 posted on 05/08/2013 12:24:11 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Don't forget love)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Funny thing: A Marlin/Glenfield Model 60, Hi-Point C-9 or that new 3-D printer Liberator pistol could still mess up that squad of gendarmes in less than 10 seconds.
10 posted on 05/08/2013 12:25:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Absence of truth in leadership is tyranny, especially when the people lose the power to expose the truth. I would say the Obama cult, including its media devotes, has less regard for truthfulness than any administration preceding them.


11 posted on 05/08/2013 12:27:16 PM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ask any good democrat:

“Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used, and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against ***tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible***”

Senator Hubert H. Humphrey (D) Minn.
“Know Your Lawmakers” Guns (magazine), February, 1960, p. 4.


12 posted on 05/08/2013 12:30:47 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: Mushroom Gravy

The month and year I was born, btw.


13 posted on 05/08/2013 12:37:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's already here....or did everyone miss the pictures of all the guys in "military" gear searching homes in Boston.

When's the last time that happened?? 1776??

14 posted on 05/08/2013 12:44:13 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huey Long was once asked if he ever thought that fascism would take over in the U.S. “Yes”, he replied, “but here it will be called anti-fascism.” I can see tyranny come to the U.S. under the same circumstances. We will be told that the government needs such-and-such a power or that certain restrictions need to be imposed, all under the guise of preventing Muslims or gun-nuts or commies or religious fundamentalists, or some other group that one side or the other will use to scare us, from taking over and imposing a greater tyranny on the rest of us.


15 posted on 05/08/2013 12:51:18 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Uncle Miltie

Those guys are jusr wearing vests!

As Sean Connery told Kevin Costner in “The Untouchables”,

“Aim low, put your man down.”

Even the folks who enjoy pistols, instead of revolvers, with all those angles on that car, I might think that a few ‘misses’ would still ‘get there’!

A question: “All those guys, even though it is a photo, seem to ooze that, ‘we got da guns, we bad’ aura. Do you get that?”

I know in my heart that there are a large number of Americans, that have greater range hours, and more holes on paper and dents on steel, than these guys, or me.


16 posted on 05/08/2013 12:54:12 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It has happened may times in history the world over and it can happen here. The gov’t is presently in the hands of murderous, committed ideologues who have both the history, desire and means to act. It only comes down to what exactly they are planning and whether Patriots can stop them. THEY know how thin that line of Patriots is and this emboldens them. Sometime between this very moment and, say, three years they WILL act. Nature of the beast, that sort of thing.


17 posted on 05/08/2013 12:57:10 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
. Never mind that government — yes, government in America — has routinely stripped its citizens of rights.

Libtards believe in the anarchic concept of freedom combined with the ends justifies the means and might makes right. For them, the government is free to use force and violate natural rights if it will achieve libtard ends.

18 posted on 05/08/2013 1:08:52 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This sounds very much like a question from a frog in a very warm (and rising) pot of water.


19 posted on 05/08/2013 1:09:02 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

20 posted on 05/08/2013 1:11:33 PM PDT by Zakeet (If idiots could fly, Washington would be an airport)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At the rate at which they are successfully decoupling young people from the Constitution...twenty years, max.


21 posted on 05/08/2013 1:15:05 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A Marlin/Glenfield Model 60, Hi-Point C-9 or that new 3-D printer Liberator pistol could still mess up that squad of gendarmes in less than 10 seconds.

Similar to my initial thought: "How thoughtful of them to use their soft bodies to protect the light armor of the vehicle from getting scratched."

22 posted on 05/08/2013 1:15:24 PM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Was this written before the election in Nov. 2008?


23 posted on 05/08/2013 1:23:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We already put Japanese-American citizens into internment camps because they were “considered,” without trial(s), to be dangerous.

So, yes - Democrats definitely will allow, promote, and execute tyranny on U.S. soil and they have.

Next question?


24 posted on 05/08/2013 1:24:01 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This speech by Obama reminds me of quote from Ender’s Exile by Orson Scott Card:
“True believers in a cause often behaved in self-defeating ways because they expected other people to see the rightness of their cause if they just stated it clearly enough. As a result, they tipped their hand in every game and couldn’t understand why everyone ganged up against them.”

And another quote about “politicians”:
“It’s so very, very hard when you have no convictions except your lust to remain in power.”


25 posted on 05/08/2013 1:44:52 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Will Tyranny Ever Come to America?

Already here.

26 posted on 05/08/2013 2:03:23 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Remember Benghazi !!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Will Tyranny ever leave?
27 posted on 05/08/2013 2:07:00 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tyranny was never better (or worse) expressed by Bill Clinton shortly after his impeachment hearings. On a speaking engagement in Buffalo (?) someone in the crowd asked him if they were going to get a tax cut because the stock market was booming and the budget was getting balanced. Slick Willy told the guy asking the question that he’d like to give a tax cut, but he didn’t think the taxpayers would spend it wisely. In short, he was telling the guy his money belonged to the government, and it/he could do with it whatever he felt like. He should have been impeached and removed as much for that remark as much as for anything else he did.


28 posted on 05/08/2013 2:12:32 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” — Benjamin Franklin

Tyranny is the opposite of liberty. For every freedom we surrender, we accept one more inch of tyranny. And we’ve given up MILES of liberty to reach our current state of public comfort and safety.

Personally, I prefer slightly crazy neighbors, with the ultimate option to shoot them if they get out of hand, than a Nanny State solution that smothers every little thing we do, say, wear, use and believe in. (e.g. “Your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose.”) Just leave us ALONE and we’ll all be better off.

Thanks for another great post, 2DV.


29 posted on 05/08/2013 2:14:04 PM PDT by DNME ("... to support and defend the Constitution of the U.S. against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is busy installing it right now.


30 posted on 05/08/2013 2:37:40 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It has already come to a degree. There is still time to stop it, but the will seems to be lacking.


31 posted on 05/08/2013 2:44:09 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Mushroom Gravy

Regrettably, the Hubert Humphreys, Zell Millers and Scoop Jacksons are no longer present in the RAT Party. You could disagree with them, but still respect them and be respected by them.


32 posted on 05/08/2013 2:47:47 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tyranny is a part of our daily lives in today’s America.

LLS


33 posted on 05/08/2013 4:26:51 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes. It might not happen under dear leader, but he’s putting things into position for a future dictator.

And unfortunately, talking to some Americans, quite a few of them would not only have no problem with it, but openly support it.


34 posted on 05/08/2013 5:04:05 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Will Tyranny Ever Come to America?”

The other question:

Will American tyrants be hanged from lampposts?

A sword has two killing edges.


35 posted on 05/08/2013 5:04:49 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The American people may never be able to spell the word, but tyranny is already here.


36 posted on 05/08/2013 7:44:12 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It hasn’t yet?


37 posted on 05/08/2013 9:57:26 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Theodore R.
Plato and Aristotle define a tyrant as, "one who rules without law, looks to his own advantage rather than that of his subjects, and uses extreme and cruel tactics—against his own people as well as others".

Yep, Big Bully Barry fits the description to a BIG FAT "T".
38 posted on 05/09/2013 2:52:34 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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39 posted on 05/09/2013 4:50:48 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Will Tyranny Ever Come to America?

How will we know? Will tyranny announce its arrival?

History provides us with several clues, some subtle, some direct, but all are profound and contain wise counsel.

This is the very first clue that tyranny is afoot.
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." - Tacitus, Roman Senator and Historian (A.D. c.56 - c. 115) Tacitus (c. 56/57-ca. 125) was a Roman orator and historian. In a life that spanned the reigns of the Flavian emperors and of Trajan and Hadrian, he played a part in the public life of Rome and became its greatest historian.

The second clue is:
This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector: Plato: Ancient Greek philosopher

There are many other clues and I have listed several in no particular order.

It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. Benjamin Franklin

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Thomas Jefferson

"The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

"Nothing is so opportune for tyrants as a people tired of its liberty." --Alan Keyes

“Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.” Frederick Douglass

Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson

"The mob is the mother of tyrants." – Diogenes

“Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny.” Edmund Burke

"'Necessity' is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt, 1783

"If thou wouldst rule well, thou must rule for God, and to do that, thou must be ruled by him. Those who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants." William Penn

Truly, there is nothing new under the sun.

40 posted on 05/09/2013 8:46:36 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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