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Welcome to Orania... as long as you're white: Remote town in South Africa
The Daily Mail ^ | 8 May 2013 | Nick Enoch

Posted on 05/08/2013 5:57:06 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

'Welkom in Orania' proclaims a mural, painted in white, blue and orange.

But this South African town, in the remote Northern Cape province, does not extend its welcome to everyone.

The colour scheme on the wall - accompanied by the community emblem of a boy pulling up his sleeves - harks back to the old apartheid flag.

Orania, one of the last outposts of racial segregation, is a whites-only enclave.

Around 1,000 people live in the rural community, established in 1991 during the last years of apartheid.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anc; apartheid; orania; southafrica

1 posted on 05/08/2013 5:57:06 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
Black-only enclaves are fine though.
2 posted on 05/08/2013 5:59:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

One single village on the planet made up of only whites must be stamped out down to the atoms!

It sets a very bad example when a group can actually manage their own lives without an overarching nanny state tyranny.


3 posted on 05/08/2013 6:01:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Just a large target for the ANC


4 posted on 05/08/2013 6:04:18 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome
The Zulu made the mistake of counting out the Boers.
5 posted on 05/08/2013 6:17:50 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

This is actually very good news. I have long advocated for an independent state within Africa for the displaced whites. It’s a tough situation, but much like when we freed the slaves, sending people back is not practical, so we learned to co-exist over time. Not possible in South Africa. Too much hatred. I hope the South Africans let them go their own way and end the strife in that country.

It would also be interesting to see how the new nation did when compared with the others in the region. Would it have similar problems, or would it develop differently?


6 posted on 05/08/2013 6:19:26 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Vertrou in God en die Mauser”


7 posted on 05/08/2013 6:19:52 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Viennacon

Let’s see what happens in the next ten or twenty years. Half of the Whites will probably emigrate.


8 posted on 05/08/2013 6:21:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Half of the Whites will probably emigrate.”

If they come here, can we call them African-Americans?/s


9 posted on 05/08/2013 6:24:20 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Travis McGee

Interestingly - when an outspoken black speaks his mind that more black men should marry black women instead of messing with the white girls - nobody makes a big issue out of it.

Of course if it’s the other way around (white/white)..it’s toxic.


10 posted on 05/08/2013 6:26:02 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m no expert on the country but IMO the best solution would have been to divide it into at least two pieces and maybe more.It would have been completely reasonable for *both* groups to be unwilling to be ruled by the other.One piece would have been for the whites and the other one(s) for blacks.Both the “white” portion and the “black” portion would have contained fertile farm land as well as substantial reserves of mineral wealth (gold,diamonds,etc).But then nobody asked me.


11 posted on 05/08/2013 6:27:41 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: Viennacon

“It’s a tough situation, but much like when we freed the slaves, sending people back is not practical, so we learned to co-exist over time. Not possible in South Africa. Too much hatred.”

That’s an idealistic view of race relations in the US; they are bad and only getting worse. As bad as Jim Crow was, affirmative action quotas are no better (simply antagonizing people who may have had any other reason to involve themselves in race issues). Freed slaves that did return to Africa fared well in Liberia (founded 1847) until the native Africans there rose up a century and a half later...because THEY were treated as slaves.


12 posted on 05/08/2013 6:29:15 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Oh, I agree. Race relations right now in America are awful, particularly anti-white education and animosity between blacks and Hispanics. I’m just saying we haven’t committed mass killings in a long while, whereas the plight of white Africans today is hard to read about. Like the composite parts of Yugoslavia had to go their own way, so will these countries in Africa.


13 posted on 05/08/2013 6:34:05 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: MinorityRepublican

It is a matter of survival for the whites:

South African whites are murdered by blacks at a rate six times the murder rate of Detroit.

http://ajkraad.wix.com/genocide-museum

http://www.genocidewatch.org/southafrica.html

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/


14 posted on 05/08/2013 6:42:49 PM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: dynachrome
If they come here, can we call them African-Americans?

I used to work with a white guy from South Africa who was a naturalized American. He used to get a kick out of reminding us Yanks that he was an African-American.

15 posted on 05/08/2013 6:47:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Viennacon

“Like the composite parts of Yugoslavia had to go their own way, so will these countries in Africa.”

So will the composite parts of the US, unless people are truly treated equally in the eyes of the law. We have no mass killings (but plenty of racial killings) because we are segregated enough to prevent it; I live within sight of Newark NJ, but you won’t find me there after dark - that is how people stay safe.

If my children have to step aside for jobs or educational opportunities because they are not a “preferred minority”, then obviously they are much better off if such “preferred minorities” don’t exist. They shouldn’t be expected to treat as their equals people that THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT MAINTAINS ARE INFERIOR AND REQUIRE A “LEG UP”. This isn’t even just about race; women are treated as inferior by such policies as well. My children will probably qualify as “preferred minorities” themselves, and I’d use that to the max to prevent them being denied a future.


16 posted on 05/08/2013 6:53:23 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
My children will probably qualify as “preferred minorities” themselves, and I’d use that to the max to prevent them being denied a future.

I was born a "preferred minority", but no one from the gubmint has ever done a thing to give me a leg up. Not that I've asked for it, either.

My kids could milk that cow if they wanted to, but I have a feeling that the idea won't even cross their minds until much later in life. Same as me.

17 posted on 05/08/2013 6:57:05 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

“My kids could milk that cow if they wanted to, but I have a feeling that the idea won’t even cross their minds until much later in life. Same as me.”

They will if they can’t get an education or job without it (and I wouldn’t blame them). When we were younger it was less overt; it is blatant now, and enforced by law (and the threat of lawsuits). My town (which has few blacks, though many Hispanics) has an agreement with the NAACP whereas we have to waive our residency requirements for police/fire (to allow neighboring Newark’s residents to apply) while Newark is allowed to maintain its residency requirements for those same jobs.

If this doesn’t breed racial hatred, it certainly breeds indifference (which may be worse).


18 posted on 05/08/2013 7:01:14 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
They will if they can’t get an education or job without it

Well, I've never relied on Uncle Sugar for a damn thing, and my little acorns won't fall far from the tree.

Perhaps it's because they're home schooled, and their family owns a business. They just don't have the 'gibmedat' mindset, and never will.

19 posted on 05/08/2013 7:05:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

“Perhaps it’s because they’re home schooled, and their family owns a business. They just don’t have the ‘gibmedat’ mindset, and never will.”

That’s fine, until they are competing with businesses that get tax breaks and easier access to capital because they are “minority/women owned” and because they hire a certain number of “women/minorities”. You have noble intentions, but the legal atmosphere has changed since BJ Clinton was elected (and it is worsening quickly).

I’ve never had that mindset, and I’ve worked since I was 13 years old (even earlier than that delivering a weekly newspaper one afternoon per week); I’ve never been unemployed (even for a day, thank God), and have never received a government benefit - I’m a “maker”, not a “taker”. I would like my children to have the same opportunity, without being punished for their skin color.

I instill my values in my children, including contempt for “preferred” groups that won’t grow up to be real Americans. I also make sure they know what Irish people faced when they arrived here; they eventually grew up and joined the ranks of adult Americans (with no help at all from the government).


20 posted on 05/08/2013 7:14:42 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: DJlaysitup

“Of course if it’s the other way around (white/white)..it’s toxic.”

This article reminds me of Greenville, Texas back in the 50’s and early 60’s. the Chamber of Commerce had a banner strung across Main Street. Anyone recall what it said?


21 posted on 05/08/2013 7:44:24 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: kearnyirish2
“Perhaps it’s because they’re home schooled, and their family owns a business. They just don’t have the ‘gibmedat’ mindset, and never will.”

That’s fine, until they are competing with businesses that get tax breaks and easier access to capital because they are “minority/women owned” and because they hire a certain number of “women/minorities”.

My children's family business IS 'woman and minority owned', but it's never received a dime of federal assistance, nor gotten access to capital because of the race and gender of their parents. We've competed with such businesses for fifteen years, and we're still here and going strong.

This, even in the face of the corrupt use of illegal labor among our less scrupulous competitors.

Our business has survived and even thrived without handouts or unfair advantages doled out by Uncle Sugar, because we do things the old fashioned way - we earn it. That's all my kids know, and it's the mindset that will keep them strong and prosperous when the gubmint programs for minority businesses dry up and blow away.

22 posted on 05/08/2013 7:45:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“But this South African town, in the remote Northern Cape province, does not extend its welcome to everyone.”

Egregious hypocrisy, of course, as any plain fool can see; every other effing town in that nation is, more or less, for Blacks only.

And no one says a word about it.


23 posted on 05/08/2013 8:13:46 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: snoringbear

If I recall correctly, it had something to do about not letting the sunset on one’s arse...


24 posted on 05/08/2013 9:37:58 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Windflier

I’m genuinely happy for you; well done. In my area businesses in some sectors that wouldn’t use illegals have already gone under; they couldn’t compete in an area where money has gotten extremely tight (we have the highest costs and tacx burdens in the country, while jobs have disappeared and those still working have watched their income fall due to inflation). IF those vacant businesses are re-opened at some point down the road, our government has decided to help some people open them rather than others depending on their race/gender (I say “If” because after watching what happened in Detroit, I no longer assume things will return to the way they were 15 years ago).


25 posted on 05/09/2013 2:28:10 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
In my area...

I just clicked on your profile and see that you're in New Jersey. No wonder you've got the perspective you do.

I'm in Texas. Life is quite a bit different out here. For the most part, this part of the country is still America.

26 posted on 05/09/2013 2:37:56 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

“I’m in Texas. Life is quite a bit different out here. For the most part, this part of the country is still America.”

Oh, I completely agree with you. This place is a mess, and any idea that illegal immigration would fix it has gone out the window in recent years as their costs close our hospitals and drive up the costs of our public school system. Whole towns now resemble Caracas or Lima, with nobody receiving a W-2 since they “arrived”.


27 posted on 05/09/2013 2:44:05 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Uncle Lonny

The End is Near for South Africa’s Whites?


28 posted on 05/09/2013 2:08:30 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

There is more to this than many people appear to understand.

During the CODESA negotiations between the white apartheid regime, represented by the ruling Nationalist political party, and the AFrican National Congress, many and various concessions were made by both sides, as well as certain compromises.

I shall not elaborate all of them. Let it suffice to say that, just as the ANC promised to allow the Directors General of the government departments, and others, to remain in their posts for a certain period after they assumed power, they agreed to allow hard-core militant Afrikaners (not only, but especially) to establish a teeny-little homeland (it amounts to a small town or a large village) in a remote, rural, semi-arid region of South Africa.

All of these things were done because the Nationalists warned the ANC that influential and powerful sectors of white South Africa needed incentives to reduce their virulent, and potentially violent, well-armed, opposition to what they perceived as the sell-out of South Africa to godless communism.


30 posted on 06/17/2013 4:43:13 AM PDT by meduseld (Consider carefully.)
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