Posted on 05/09/2013 8:42:04 AM PDT by Mozilla
Remember when Senators Pat Toomey, Joe Manchin and Chuck Schumer formed an unholy alliance during the recent gun battle on Capitol Hill? Remember how their amendment would have encouraged your psychiatrist to turn you in to the FBI’s gun ban list?
And you remember how we stopped that provision, because over 40 senators found it to be odious and a violation of the Second Amendment?
Well, guess what? Barack Obama has just concluded that “he don’t need no stinkin’ Senate.”
Instead, Secretary Kathleen “ObamaCare” Sebelius – and her Department of Health and Human Services – has promulgated regulations which would, by executive fiat, waive all federal privacy laws and encourage you doctor to report you to the FBI.
Understand a couple of things: First, the standard which your doctor would use to turn you in is embodied in Clinton-era ATF language and in the anti-gun Veterans Disarmament Act of 2007. Specifically, you doctor would “drop a dime” on you if he suspected you were even a slight “danger to yourself of others” or were “unable to manage your financial affairs.”
So if they say you can’t balance your checkbook, then you lose your constitutional rights.
But there’s another problem: The day these regulations become law, lawyers will be lining up to sue “deep-pocket” psychiatrists for every case where they failed to turn in a patient to NICS – if the patient subsequently engages in a horrific act.
The bottom line? Any psychiatrist who failed to report all of his patients to the NICS system risks losing everything if any of them engages in harmful conduct. Soon the rule of thumb will be: See a shrink; lose your guns.
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
Psychologists and psychiatrists would be prudent to band together and not support this. If the “accuser” tag gets out, their business is for sh!t in any sense of the word.
I won’t be losing my guns, because I never participated in or will participate in the background check system. So they can put me on any list they want, and I will continue to get any gun I want from the “sources” I always have...
The real “trouble guns” in this country are ghetto and barrio guns.
Let him do a sweep through those ‘hoods by executive order, and really make a positive difference.
(((((crickets)))))
Psychologists and psychiatrists would be prudent to band together and not support this. If the “accuser” tag gets out, their business is for sh!t in any sense of the word.
A very good point indeed.
Also remember this: Just because you’re Paranoid doesn’t mean that they aren’t out to get you. You might have very real reasons to be that way.
I am sure criminals will also continue to get any gun they want from their “sources.” They don’t follow laws and they will find a way to commit a crime and a murder.
One shrinks opinion of who’s nuts and who isn’t will be different from another shrinks eval. So you may have one shrink who perceives your “condition” as a threat so he reports you. Another one may think you don’t really have much of a problem. So, who decides? Should you seek a 2nd opinion? If you can, avoid ever going to one in the first place. And don’t tell your pcp any more than you absolutely have to. If you have an ingrown toe nail, him/her asking you about weapons in the house is irrelevant. And you should let them know it.
Some geniuses we have on the Left in Washington...
Yep - just as many lawyers willing to sue them for infringing on their rights a there are to get them if they don't report. Lawyers don't care which side they're on as long as there's money involved.
In fact, the Supreme Court reflected on the statutes referenced above when it officially clarified in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer that executive orders do not have the force of law unless legislatively supported by Congress. And since we already know that Obama doesn't have the Senate's support with respect to taking away our gun rights, Obama can make paper airplanes out of any executive orders that attempt to do so.
Executive order
Note that evidently one of our liberal "friends" at Wikipedia has worded the first paragraph of the page referenced above to give the impression that executive orders have the force of law. But also note that the explanation slips up by using the term "delegated legislation" which ignores the Founders' clarification that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress and therefore not delegatable.
In fact, the history section of that page linked to above essentially backpedals and admits that executive orders have to be supported by congressional legislation.
Again, Obama clearly has no support for gun control in the divided Congress which is necessary for any executive order that he makes for gun control to have any teeth.
Deep pockets work both ways. Most doctors now work for hospitals or medical groups. If someone loses his firearms for telling a doctor or nurse about them, the hospital or group medical practice is on the hook for any counter-suit.
perfect paranoia makes perfect awareness.
“unable to manage your financial affairs.”
So if they say you can’t balance your checkbook, then you lose your constitutional rights.
I guess the above means the government shouldn’t have guns then?
Yup...no paperwork...
Bottom line...never, never, never see a shrink...never go to a phycologist, never go to a phychiatrist...first of all, they cannot help you; and second, they can harm you...their prescriptions are in many cases deadly, and none of them are good for you. The practice is EVIL.
Exclude counselor as well. Life is life. And stuff happens. To everybody. Some cope. Some have their weapons confiscated.
You are correct.
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