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Same-sex marriage underlines social change in Ireland
EU Observer ^ | 07.05.13 @ 08:42 (May 7) | Honor Mahony

Posted on 05/09/2013 11:31:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A recent convention in Ireland on same-sex marriage has highlighted the depth of social change in a country that decriminalized homosexuality only 20 years ago.

The 100-strong constitutional convention—made up of citizens (66%) and legislators—in April found an overwhelming majority (79%) in favor of amending the constitution to allow same-sex marriage.

The gathering also was strongly in favor (81%) of changing laws to reflect different family structures and to give all family members the same rights. …

A recent poll show that 75 percent of people support same-sex marriage. …

(Excerpt) Read more at euobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: gaystapo; homosexualagenda; ireland; moralabsolutes; ssm
Republic is really heading in the wrong direction. Northern Ireland just struck down an attempt to legalize gay marriage, by contrast.
1 posted on 05/09/2013 11:31:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Mante Teo wants to know if the Irish extend the recognition to online same sex relationships as well.


2 posted on 05/09/2013 11:35:08 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: Olog-hai

How long will the normal, well-adjusted majority allow itself to be led around by the nose by an abnormal, mentally twisted minority?


3 posted on 05/09/2013 11:35:21 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Olog-hai

Social change like this does not just happen. It’s engineered. Marxists and fascists are experts at social engineering. Start with the children.


4 posted on 05/09/2013 11:37:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Olog-hai
It's hard to believe Bishop Sheen once described Ireland as "the last bastion of Christian civilization."

I wonder how much of this is a rejection of their father's Ireland just as they now order Budweiser (or Coors!) in the pubs instead of Guinness and wear baseball caps instead of their ol' da's peaked cap.

Or does Satan just have it in for Ireland?

5 posted on 05/09/2013 11:40:52 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: skeeter

A majority that is led around by queers and Bull Dykes is not a normal well- adjusted majority.

They are all friggin sick.


6 posted on 05/09/2013 11:44:28 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

I’ll grant that the majority seems to lack critical thinking skills.


7 posted on 05/09/2013 11:45:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Oratam
It's hard to believe Bishop Sheen once described Ireland as "the last bastion of Christian civilization."

That title now belongs to Poland, and God knows how much longer even there.

8 posted on 05/09/2013 11:47:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

The entire world is headed in the wrong direction.


9 posted on 05/09/2013 11:47:51 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Olog-hai

Will multi-party contract “marriages” for business purposes be allowed?

Will the state now begin vetting marriages for demonstrations of “love?”


10 posted on 05/09/2013 11:47:51 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: Oratam

Although not Irish, I celebrate my own birth on St. Patrick’s day. Satan the snake has it in for all of mankind on every corner of the Earth. Only a return to God will drive him out and pride keeps humanity from repentance.

God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit weep for the destruction we bring upon ourselves. Have heart Christ has already paid for our sins on the cross and the enemy lies defeated. I am convinced the evil of today is allowed to test the faith of the righteous. Stay close to Jesus and all will be well.


11 posted on 05/09/2013 11:54:43 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Olog-hai

My brother married into an Irish expat family who says the place has gone right down the crapper since they joined the EU.


12 posted on 05/09/2013 11:56:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

So much for fleeing to Ireland


13 posted on 05/09/2013 12:18:03 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Olog-hai

The insidious wordsmiths on the left continue to bastardize the English language.

The SSAD crowd destroyed a perfectly good word “Gay” by assigning it to their perversion which is anything but gay.

The same deviants want to destroy the term Marriage to include a perversion which is not Marriage. If SSADs are allowed to use that word then it becomes meaningless.

The same thing would happen if anyone who could operate a can opener would be called an Engineer. Engineer would be meaningless.

Or their biggest destruction of all is the word Choice which now means to kill children. Maybe they could do all the world a favor and eliminate themselves from civilization. Think of all the CO2 they could save.


14 posted on 05/09/2013 12:27:06 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Olog-hai

Social change = the return of the sodomites, the coprophiles, and the same-sex pedophiles. More like the collapse of the civilized world.


15 posted on 05/09/2013 12:35:33 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Allowing gay marriage”

What does that even MEAN?

That’s like “allowing dry water” or “allowing invertebrate birds”.

Engaging in this debate is accepting that gibberish is discussable. Foolishness.


16 posted on 05/09/2013 12:44:40 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Olog-hai

Well glory be in Gomorrah.

Insert tacky limerick here.


17 posted on 05/09/2013 1:53:39 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Olog-hai; Oratam; dfwgator; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; HarleyD; ...
Republic is really heading in the wrong direction. Northern Ireland just struck down an attempt to legalize gay marriage, by contrast.

I do not know much about Ireland, but find correspondence btwn religious demographics and moral/political views and other factors interesting.

Northern Ireland makes up about 30% of the island's total population.

As of 2007, 36% of the population define themselves as Unionist [overwhelmingly Protestant], 24% as Nationalist [predominantly Catholic] and 40% define themselves as neither....Protestants have a slight majority in Northern Ireland, according to the latest Northern Ireland Census. The make-up of the Northern Ireland Assembly reflects the appeals of the various parties within the population. Of the 108 MLAs, 55 are Unionists and 44 are Nationalists (the remaining nine are classified as "other"). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland

In the Republic of Ireland In 2006, 86.8% of the population identified themselves as Roman Catholic, 4.8% as Protestant or another Christian religion, 0.8% as Muslim, and 4.4% as having no religion – making the non-religious group the second largest group after Roman Catholic... According to a Georgetown University study, the country has one of the highest rates of regular Mass attendance in the Western World. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland

18 posted on 05/09/2013 2:04:48 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Olog-hai
A recent convention in Ireland on same-sex marriage has highlighted the depth of social change in a country that decriminalized homosexuality only 20 years ago.

So many changes; so little time...


Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 

19 posted on 05/09/2013 7:11:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

>> Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Misogynists.


20 posted on 05/09/2013 7:12:50 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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I wonder how hand picked this group was, and the veracity of the 75% of the population wanting fag marriage. Since Ireland has a hard time even forcing it's population to want to stay in the EU, this is very odd.

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21 posted on 05/09/2013 8:36:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Olog-hai

HUH they ban abortion but would allow this , no chance.

Why do these people who get off sexually in very bizarre unnatural way feel that their sex life should be public and why do they feel the need to change what a family is and who raises children.

Are they mentally that disturbed, maybe as the ones I have met have a victim character, feel the world is against them and certainly have temper anger issues on anyone who opposes their view which to me I couldn’t careless and I wish more would stand against them instead of being cowards


22 posted on 05/10/2013 4:36:00 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m sick of mentioning how they had all this written down back in 63 and you’re right Jim.
This is no change over the last 5 years, this was all done over decades.
Its the cowards and I don’t care, no Govt crowd who have let the communist agenda gain control in this country either by their ignorance or laziness.


23 posted on 05/10/2013 4:37:43 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: little jeremiah

Now the dept of education has stated in Baltimore that they can’t say mother and father.

i’d just like to thank those cowards who never speak up or the I don’t care ignorant no Govt crowd for getting us this this far on the communist rules written back in 1963

well done cowards and ignorant crowd, how proud they must be.

Rules 23 to 28,

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm


24 posted on 05/10/2013 4:40:44 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc
...either by their ignorance or laziness. or SIN.
25 posted on 05/10/2013 4:59:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

well said.


26 posted on 05/10/2013 5:02:33 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Oratam

Indeed. They need another St. Patrick to drive out more than the snakes.


27 posted on 05/10/2013 5:49:53 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: manc

“Now the dept of education has stated in Baltimore that they can’t say mother and father.”

How long before Father’s Day and Mother’s Day are criminalized?


28 posted on 05/10/2013 5:51:50 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

oh in the next coupe of years betting.

Once those who had no problem with marriage be re-defined ten t was obvious to many like us who actually looked into their agenda that this was coming.

Those who said that they had no problem with their homosexuality marriage and ten civil unions, then marriage, then adoption.
Then no mother and father on marriage certificates, birth certificates.
No mother and father on passports.
No more mothers day.
No more fathers day.

I hope those who had and have no problem with this sham marriage are very proud of what they have supported, I’m waiting for those on here who claimed giving homosexuals marriage was not a problem to now state to defend this in Baltimore etc.
Not any thus far because they know their ignorance or support for communist agendas sounds pretty stupid right about now


29 posted on 05/10/2013 6:35:41 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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