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Tim Tebow blackballed by NFL teams because of cult-like following, media frenzy
Yahoo Sports ^ | 05-09-13 | Michael Silver

Posted on 05/09/2013 2:04:09 PM PDT by slumber1

As a journalist who has consistently experienced the wrath of Tebow Nation — mostly for passing along the slings and arrows voiced by various NFL players, coaches and talent-evaluators — I'm well aware that many devotees of the world's most celebrated unemployed quarterback carry a heavy persecution complex.

Yet as Tim Tebow's career wheezes to an underwhelming halt, with less apparent interest in his services than Massachusetts funeral parlors have in Tamerlan Tsarnaev's remains, something strange is happening. Against all odds, I'm starting to wonder whether the man who helped the Denver Broncos become one of the league's most stunning success stories in 2011 is getting unjustly blackballed.

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1 posted on 05/09/2013 2:04:09 PM PDT by slumber1
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To: slumber1

He’ll land somewhere — probably Canada.


2 posted on 05/09/2013 2:05:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: slumber1

The NFL is so gay.


3 posted on 05/09/2013 2:09:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: slumber1

I worked with a young guy who graduated from a Big 10 school about 10 yrs ago and played 3 years in the NFL. He was a bright guy who got an engineering degree in 9 semesters and played football, not an easy combination at that level.

He said there is a lot of management negativity toward ANY player who wasn’t drafted by the organization. They always want to pretend their choices were the best. He said there are a surprising number of “better” players on the bench or out of work despite their ability.


4 posted on 05/09/2013 2:10:42 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: slumber1

and the homo player doesn’t have a cult like following and a media frenzy??

religious bigotry, pure and simple


5 posted on 05/09/2013 2:11:37 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: slumber1

As a Jets fan, I can tell you this: Tim Tebow IS being blackballed...

...because he’s a quarterback who can’t throw the ball.

Don’t get me wrong: I LOVE the guy. What’s not to love. And, AS a Jets fan, I wanted him to start. Mark Sanchez would be better suited to pack groceries at a Pathmark, (assuming they wouldn’t let him pack the eggs.)

I think if Tebow agreed to play another position, Tight End, for instance, he would be playing in the NFL, no problem. His Christianity isn’t keeping him out of the game; his lack of a position does.


6 posted on 05/09/2013 2:13:23 PM PDT by ObamaMustGo2012 (Obama Must Go In 2012)
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To: slumber1

7 posted on 05/09/2013 2:13:30 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: sten

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8 posted on 05/09/2013 2:15:32 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Great minds and all that, laughs.

Sure do miss ya Tim : /


9 posted on 05/09/2013 2:16:13 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Exactly.


10 posted on 05/09/2013 2:30:37 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: ObamaMustGo2012

I agree with you. I’ve said for years that Tebow is simply not cut out to be an NFL quarterback. Football history is filled with examples of players like him who were exceptional collegiate players but could never replicate their success in the NFL because their position is played so differently at that level.


11 posted on 05/09/2013 2:33:10 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: BenLurkin
He’ll land somewhere — probably Canada.

The problem is that Montreal owns his rights and they have already said he wouldn't be a starter (at QB) for them.

12 posted on 05/09/2013 2:37:44 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Alberta's Child
Football history is filled with examples of players like him who were exceptional collegiate players but could never replicate their success in the NFL

Football history is also filled with players that everyone said couldn't play and then the player proved them wrong. Doug Flutie, Kurt Warner and Warren Moon come to mind immediately.

13 posted on 05/09/2013 2:42:14 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

bump to that!


14 posted on 05/09/2013 2:42:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: BenLurkin
I was intrigued by Testaverde's statement that he has fixed Tebow's throwing mechanics problem. Tim has worked very hard on that without much success. If that's the case his agent should do a video to ship around the League requesting workouts with interested teams.

Unfortunately, I think there is a lot of truth to the suggestion that Tim's best supporters have become his worst enemies. What coach or G.M. wants to put up with a media circus for a backup QB?

15 posted on 05/09/2013 2:45:55 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: BenLurkin
He’ll land somewhere — probably Canada.

Likely you're exactly right. One of the hosts on a Sports-Talk radio station here in Chicago said a few weeks ago that Tebow was in fact being blackballed by NFL head coaches and front offices because they don't want the media circus that follows Tebow around.

Believed it then, I believe it now. (No, I'm not a Tebow fan or groupie by any stretch - but one does have to look at the situation objectively and ask why the guy isn't being picked up somewhere. Kurt Warner went through a similar problem after leaving the St. Louis Rams, although he eventually got picked up by the St. Louis Cardinals.)

16 posted on 05/09/2013 2:48:01 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Wooops! That should’ve been Arizona Cardinals. (Who were once in St. Louis, but I digress....)


17 posted on 05/09/2013 2:49:31 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: colorado tanker

It’s one thing to fix your throwing mechanics on the practice field. It’s another thing entirely to do it in the precision timed offense with a bunch of 300 pound guys trying to kill you.


18 posted on 05/09/2013 2:51:11 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: slumber1
"He seems like a great guy to have on a team, and I'd be tempted to bring him in as our backup," one NFC head coach told me Wednesday. "But it's just not worth dealing with all the stuff that comes with it."

What a load of crap.

"Stuff' didn't seem to hinder Michael Vick or any of the assorted assault artists and/or drug addicts and/or twitter genital exposing players. Not to mention the soon to be self-outed gay players.

And they just can't "handle" the stuff associated with Tim Tebow?

19 posted on 05/09/2013 3:00:31 PM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: discostu

Well, that’s why NFL QB’s are so darn scarce. Look what happened to this year’s draft crop - none of them excited anybody enough to use a high pick.


20 posted on 05/09/2013 3:03:05 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: sten

Bingo...totally agree.


21 posted on 05/09/2013 3:10:08 PM PDT by memyselfandi59
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To: discostu

Quarterback of the #1 college football team.It is about GOD.


22 posted on 05/09/2013 3:16:00 PM PDT by ardara
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To: ardara

Performance in college is not a predictor of performance in the NFL. The vast majority of Heisman winners fail in the NFL, especially the QBs. He’s not out of the league because of his religion, he’s out of the league because in over half his games as a starter (even the wins) he completed 10 or fewer passes and he’s got a completion percentage of 47. Add to that the crazy fans who insist everything bad that happens to him is bigotry (while of course completely ignoring the dozens of openly Christian players in the league) and he’s just a headache no sane coach or GM wants.


23 posted on 05/09/2013 3:20:32 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: colorado tanker
"Well, that’s why NFL QB’s are so darn scarce. Look what happened to this year’s draft crop - none of them excited anybody enough to use a high pick."

Teams that win consistently in the NFL have good lines (Both sides of the ball)

If you don't have a Good Line to protect the QB then there is no reason to pay big bucks for one. The Teams that have Big Buck QBs didn't need to draft any and the Teams that don't still haven't got good lines to guard one.

That is why more and more Linemen go early in the draft. Left Tackles are starting to command contracts that equal and many times surpass the so-called "skill positions".

The NFL has always been about winning in the trenches but now they have it honed down to a science and the draft is starting to reveal that philosophy. This year I think we went to number 7 in the second round before a Running back was picked. And there was only One QB picked in the first Round. 9 offensive Linemen and 9 Defensive linemen were taken in the first round.

Years ago I was out in Vegas in the big betting room at Caesar's Palace. It was late February and they already had Odds on the Next Super Bowl. I was curious on how they figured such and the Guy at the sports desk said one of the factors used was how much each team paid their offensive line. The teams with the higher paid lineman had better odds at winning the Big Game.

24 posted on 05/09/2013 3:20:43 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: colorado tanker

Yeah it’s amazing how little excitement this crop generated. Though that might actually mean they’re good, most of the great QBs, especially in today’s game, come on unexpectedly.


25 posted on 05/09/2013 3:26:52 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I totally agree. I was really pleased the Broncos picked a lineman with their No. 1. The point was also made well by the movie, The Blind Side.


26 posted on 05/09/2013 3:27:34 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ObamaMustGo2012
As a Jets fan, I can tell you this: Tim Tebow IS being blackballed... ...because he’s a quarterback who can’t throw the ball.

He does have a noticeable hitch in his throwing motion that makes him vulnerable to fumbles. I remember watching videos of him working on changing that motion after college and just before the NFL draft -- but I don't think he was successful in doing so.

27 posted on 05/09/2013 3:27:40 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Straight Vermonter
Moon had a long career in Canada before he played in the NFL. Warner was simply a late bloomer ... he played at a small college and wasn't even the starter until his senior year, didn't get drafted, and never played in the NFL until his late 20s.

Doug Flutie actually reinforces my point. That guy was a great college QB who spent his career in the NFL mostly as a backup.

28 posted on 05/09/2013 3:29:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: slumber1

But, if he were gay, he’d get a call from the head gay guy in the Pink House in D.C. and be signed to a multi year contract, otherwise the head gay guy in the Pink House in D.C. would have the justice department sue the NFL.


29 posted on 05/09/2013 3:31:06 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: discostu
Really makes me wonder why the Jets of all teams went out and signed him last year. I can't think of an NFL roster where a Christian athlete would be more out of place than that one.
30 posted on 05/09/2013 3:32:37 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: discostu

Tom Brady = sixth round compensatory pick.


31 posted on 05/09/2013 3:33:52 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: discostu

Took losing pro team to the playoffs.It definitely is all about GOD.


32 posted on 05/09/2013 3:38:24 PM PDT by ardara
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To: Alberta's Child

Because they’re a badly run team. Same reason they picked up 2 more QB in free agency, AND drafted another. They’ve got 5 QBs on the roster right now, and none of them are any good. Last year they had the theory of resurrecting the wild cat, so they brought in Sporano and Tebow, and then somewhere in pre-season they got cold feet about the whole thing. It’s amazing to think just a couple years ago they made back to back conference finals, now they make Jerry Jones look like a great GM.


33 posted on 05/09/2013 3:40:35 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: ardara

Took a 1-4 and, with the help of the defense cutting 15 points off their average allowed, got them to 8-8 which needed a tie-breaker to win a bad division, with a 5 game streak (all wins oddly) of 10 or fewer completions per game, one game with TWO completions. It’s all about inability. If it was all about God then you have to explain how Troy Polamalu, Kurt Warner, Tony Dungy and Reggie White all have storied NFL carriers.


34 posted on 05/09/2013 3:42:44 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
You've hit on a good point, but there are a couple of angles to this that are worth noting:

Some of the "skill" positions have lost a lot of their value in the NFL draft simply because of the way players move all over the NFL in the era of the salary cap and free agency. Nowadays, it's just as easy for a GM to fill a spot on his roster through free agency as it is to draft a player. At the QB position, for example, there is a huge risk in using a high draft pick for a college player who isn't a "can't-miss" prospect. You're better off finding someone who has a decent track record on another NFL team and signing him as a free agent.

For a position like running back, there's no reason to draft a superstar if you don't have the offensive line to block for him. In the NFL you're better off with a C+ player behind a solid offensive line than an A+ running back with no line in front of him.

Offensive linemen are highly prized in the NFL draft because with free agency there's no way to spend time developing these players -- so it's important to get them playing together as a unit right from the start of their careers. Defensive linemen are highly prized because the NFL has gone so far towards practically "legislating" record-breaking passing statistics into the game that a strong pass rush is one of the few effective tools a team has to defend against a strong passing attack.

35 posted on 05/09/2013 3:42:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Uncle Chip
He holds the ball too low.

Here's a recent article claiming Tebow's fixed his footwork and is throwing much better now.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/29/testaverde-disappointed-tebow-didnt-get-a-chance/

36 posted on 05/09/2013 3:42:50 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I should have added that he will probably always be relegated to the role of backup QB.


37 posted on 05/09/2013 3:43:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: colorado tanker

Brady was an unusual case because he played at Michigan at a time when other QBs were seen to be stronger NFL prospects (Brian Griese and Drew Henson). Brady did start for his last two years, but wasn’t highly regarded and didn’t make anyone’s All-America teams.


38 posted on 05/09/2013 3:48:39 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: discostu
Because they’re a badly run team.

That sure explains it. LOL.

39 posted on 05/09/2013 3:50:00 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Alberta's Child
Nobody can look good behind the Jets offensive line.

-PJ

40 posted on 05/09/2013 3:55:18 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: slumber1

...something strange is happening.

I would not be surprised if Tim Tebow became an evangelist. God moves in mysterious ways.


41 posted on 05/09/2013 3:55:43 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: discostu

Tim is an outspoken disciple of Christ who talks the talk and walks the4 walk.As a New Yorker I prayed for Tim to go to a town that does fawn over criminal athletes,


42 posted on 05/09/2013 3:57:42 PM PDT by ardara
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To: ardara

So are Kurt Warner and Tony Dungy, so was the late Reggie White. Troy Polamalu leads a cross team prayer circle before every game The difference between those guys and Tim is they were/ are good at their jobs. Tim is not an NFL caliber QB, his stats show it. He’s a nice guy, but NFL players aren’t paid to be nice guys, when they’re QBs they’re paid to complete passes, which Tim doesn’t do, which is why he’s out of a job.


43 posted on 05/09/2013 4:04:08 PM PDT by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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Patriots?


44 posted on 05/09/2013 4:04:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Doug Flutie actually reinforces my point. That guy was a great college QB who spent his career in the NFL mostly as a backup.

Actually he may be a good comparison. He couldn't get a starting job in the NFL because he was said to be too short. He became a Hall of Famer in Canada and then was a starter in the NFL at an age when most QBs are retired. I'll always wonder what he could have done in the NFL in those intervening years. I think he played well enough during his second NFL run to at least dispel the height concerns.

45 posted on 05/09/2013 4:09:57 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
He couldn't get a starting job in the NFL for a number of reasons, and when you go through them you don't really get a picture of a guy who was ever a solid NFL prospect as a starting QB:

1. He signed with the USFL out of college and didn't even make it to an NFL training camp until a couple of years later.

2. He was drafted by the Rams but his rights were traded to Chicago. He made his debut in 1986, but he was basically Chicago's fourth-string QB behind Jim McMahon, Mike Tomczak and Steve Fuller.

3. Flutie was traded to New England in 1987. The NFL players went on strike that year, and Flutie crossed the picket line to play for the Patriots.

4. He disappeared to the CFL after the 1989 season and put up great numbers there. A small, mobile QB can have a great career in that league.

5. He came back to the NFL at the age of 36 in 1998 but never did anything exceptional. He only had two years where he started (1999 with Buffalo and 2001 with San Diego), and one thing that stood out about him is that he threw a lot of interceptions for a guy that didn't pass for a ton of yards.

It would have been interesting to see him as a starter for his entire NFL career, but I'm guessing there's a reason why he never got much interest in the league early in his career.

46 posted on 05/09/2013 4:37:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: slumber1
I'm no pro sports fan, but this is pure Barbra Streisand.

The NFL thrives on controversy and attention.

47 posted on 05/09/2013 4:49:49 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I don’t know what the coaches and GMs were saying about him but the analysts went on and on about his size. My point was mainly that I’d rather see Flutie and Tebow succeed or fail on the field.


48 posted on 05/09/2013 5:12:17 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: slumber1

Horse pucky! Tim may be a fine person, but he’s a lousy NFL quarterback. Period.


49 posted on 05/09/2013 6:29:15 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: slumber1

Earlier today...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3017388/posts?page=1


50 posted on 05/09/2013 6:36:18 PM PDT by Resettozero
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