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BENGHAZI MEANS NOTHING
boblonsberry.com | 05/09/13 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 05/09/2013 3:02:03 PM PDT by shortstop

Benghazi is not like Watergate.

It’s worse.

But it won’t have the same end.

In Benghazi, American military specialists, hurrying to relieve other Americans under fire, were twice ordered not to.

In Benghazi itself, they ignored the order and saved dozens. In Tripoli, they had to obey, and two brave former SEALS died as a result.

Let me repeat. American men at arms, ready and eager to go to the aid of their countrymen, were, in two separate incidents, ordered to stand down.

Two separate conscious decisions were made to let Americans die. The fundamental ethic of the American armed forces – leave no man behind – was violated.

We didn’t scramble jets, we didn’t send over the special operators from Tripoli, we didn’t come in from our Mediterranean fleet or our Italian bases, we didn’t fire a missile or divert a drone.

We didn’t even ask the Israelis or the Egyptians for help.

We just wrote them off. It’s not surprising that two more Americans died as a result, it’s surprising that only two more Americans died as a result.

When our government decided to do nothing to relieve besieged Americans, the issue was not two former SEALS, it was the survival of dozens of our countrymen. The compound under attack was providing refuge to a great many Americans, and as terrorists and their munitions surrounded those Americans, our government decided to stand down.

That is incomprehensible.

For the first time in our history, the demonstrated attitude of our government is that Americans are expendable.

That’s the first big thing.

The second is that the American government willfully, repeatedly and purposely lied to the American people.

Contrary to what we now know was the government’s understanding at the time, the Obama Administration denied terrorist involvement, spun some complete lie about an anti-Muslim movie, and purposely and significantly distorted and misreported what had happened.

Pressed on it, the secretary of State yelled at Congress. Asked to explain, the White House spokesman complained of partisanship.

And yesterday, in front of the TV cameras, in an open meeting, the No. 2 diplomat in Libya demonstrated under oath the dishonesty and dishonor of the administration.

And it all means nothing.

The press and the Democrats have characterized the entire inquiry as Republican hate mongering, some species of semi-racism undergirding any opposition to or disagreement with Barack Obama.

In the end, this won’t move the needle of public approval or public policy.

Which is how this is different from Watergate. In that criminal attempt to influence an election, the president’s party turned against him. In this criminal attempt to influence an election, the president’s party will stick with him.

Nixon fell because Republicans of conscience refused to tolerate his immoral and illegal activity. Obama will stand because Democrats have no conscience.

In the case of Nixon, Democrats opposed him universally before Watergate. The only shift in public thinking – the shift that pushed him out – was among Republicans. In the case of Obama, Democrats supported him universally before Benghazi. There will be no shift in their thinking. He will not be pushed out.

In fact, it is likely that among his supporters, he will become more popular, as the narrative of victimhood is wrapped around the poor president being beaten up by the hateful Republicans.

There is no record of an administration sacrificing citizens’ lives and patently lying to the American people. Obama holds the record on that.

And he is going to hold his office, too.

Not because he did the right thing, but because he’s got the right supporters. Supporters to whom party is more important than propriety.

It’s not about America, it’s about partisanship.

And dying is part of life.

Get over it.

And hope there’s something left of America when this monster gets done with it.


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May Obama, the Democrats and the Media all rot in he!!.
1 posted on 05/09/2013 3:02:03 PM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

“May Obama, the Democrats and the Media all rot in he!!.”

I’ll second that!


2 posted on 05/09/2013 3:05:45 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: shortstop

Indeed.

The depths of Hell is where Traitors should reside.


3 posted on 05/09/2013 3:06:23 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: shortstop

....this will only die if we let it


4 posted on 05/09/2013 3:06:44 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: shortstop

WATERGATE WAS NOT ABOUT THE BURGLARY- IT WAS ABOUT THE COVERUP AFTERWARDS

BUT A LEAST NIXON DIDN’T CAUSE ANYONE TO DIE


5 posted on 05/09/2013 3:07:42 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: shortstop

Let me repeat. American men at arms, ready and eager to go to the aid of their countrymen, were, in two separate incidents, ordered to stand down.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes, anyone with two ears and a brain who has followed the facts knows this.

The ROYAL question is WHY?

I think that Obama was arming Muslim Brotherhoods Hamas and others to destabilize or destroy Israel, and if Obama allowed the rescue and the subsequent slaughter of those who attacked Benghazi, then Obama would have been outed for all the world to see by those he had dealt with.These arms were gathered from Gadaffis arsenal.

Obama is essentially a treasonous, fascist prick with the morality of a pustulated Muslim toad.

Good Read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


6 posted on 05/09/2013 3:10:51 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: shortstop

If the cultist media doesn’t begin policing the leftist personalities they worship, they are going to be ruined by one. This is the kind of media that allowed Hitler, Stalin and Mao to rise to power.


7 posted on 05/09/2013 3:10:56 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Doogle
....this will only die if we let it

It will not die, if we the people will not let it die.

8 posted on 05/09/2013 3:11:26 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: shortstop
Nixon fell because Republicans of conscience refused to tolerate his immoral and illegal activity. Obama will stand because Democrats have no conscience.

How many times has this been demonstrated since Watergate? Republicans will clean up the messes created by their own. Democrats pass the blame onto others, and then rally around the politician facing scrutiny. THIS is the difference between the two parties. THIS is what the GOP should be focusing the attention of the voter on. Republicans may make mistakes, but only Democrats hide from them.

9 posted on 05/09/2013 3:11:46 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: shortstop

Obuma gave a big FU to our comrades in the military. They need to remember that.


10 posted on 05/09/2013 3:12:03 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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11 posted on 05/09/2013 3:12:15 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: shortstop

What angers me most about this is that those people died for nothing and for months...MONTHS! the GOP didn’t do squat. They sat silent while Obama sent lapdogs out to craft his coverup.

Obama/Democrats are what they are. I expect them to abandon American lives for political gain. The GOP is supposed to be their opposition. And what good is ann opposition that aids and abeds the Dems?

Think about this folks.


12 posted on 05/09/2013 3:13:09 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: shortstop
The big problem here is showing weakness to Al Qaeda. One of the last terror attacks leading up to 9-11 was the attack on the Kenya and Tanzania embassies. Al Qaeda has found a haven in the Sahara and Horn of Africa and it is metastasizing.

It can now be assured the Community Organizer in Chief will do nothing about them.

13 posted on 05/09/2013 3:13:14 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: shortstop

14 posted on 05/09/2013 3:13:18 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: shortstop

Then there’s the GOP: They made a lot of noise just to promote there own political objectives, but with no real effort to make Obama pay for this. The GOP conducted a spectacle which gives our enemies greater understanding of how we gather and utilize intelligence at the highest levels of our government.

This will help future terroirst operations to be even more sophisticated in manipulating our gutless leadership. What the GOP did was worse than the DemonRats: The GOP was supposed to be an effective moralizing force in this fiasco. All it did was huff and puff.

Can you imagine the DemonRats letting something like this slide—if George Bush ha been responsible??? I am disgusted with the Miss Lindsay and his Party. We need a new party.


15 posted on 05/09/2013 3:14:02 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

This is how much the GOP cares about Bhengazi and dead Americans folks...

Report: RNC scrapped pre-election Benghazi ad; Conservatives demand to know why

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3017604/posts


16 posted on 05/09/2013 3:17:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: shortstop
Paging SEAL Team 4 leader Rob Price!!!.. Oh wait. He 'committed suicide' (yeah right). How about the CH-47 (not MH-47) chopper chalk full of 31 SEALs that crashed in Afghanistan? Who puts 31 SEALs on one helicopter? WTF? America's most prolific sniper, Navy SEAL Chris Kyle was murdered at a gun range..

How many SEALs have died under 0bama's watch, compared to Bush's reign when the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were MUCH hotter and heavier in action?? 33 SEALs dead under 0bama just in this post. I'm sure there's many more..

Oh wait.. Add 2 more to the list: Glen Doherty and Ty Woods.. Total now: 35 and counting..

I hope the Navy SEALs are watching their backs, on the lookout for any government plots to kill more of them.

17 posted on 05/09/2013 3:17:34 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: shortstop
We just wrote them off."

No. They did more than that! Hillary and Hussein gave aid and comfort to the islamoterrorist enemy in Libya and elsewhere in the world by their complicity in the murder of U.S. citizens.

Hillary and Hussein are traitors to the United States of America. And now it is the duty of the American people to demand their indictment, public trial, conviction, and public execution of sentencing for the crime of treason.

18 posted on 05/09/2013 3:17:56 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: shortstop

You.
Don’t
Say.

“Libya: Inside Benghazi’s rebel training camps
Libyan insurgents may be making sporadic progress - but their tactics need a lot of work, finds Ben Farmer at a rebel training camp.

A training camp has been set up at the April 7th Army Base in Benghazi City

Volunteers are required to do two weeks basic training before they are allowed at the front Photo: DAVID ROSE

By Ben Farmer, Benghazi
7:30AM BST 24 Apr 2011

The ageing military instructor had assumed the statuesque pose of a javelin thrower to teach his rebel pupils how to fire a rocket-propelled grenade.

“It flies through the air like this,” he demonstrated gravely, grasping the rocket projectile in his right hand like a paper aeroplane.

Seated at his feet in deep, but puzzled attention were nearly 30 cross-legged students dressed in everything from long traditional robes to business suits, rather than fatigues.

Some 50 yards away, on the parade ground of what was once one of Col Muammar Gaddafi’s largest military camps in Benghazi, was another semicircle of students gathered around a dilapidated anti-aircraft gun.

At such daily training sessions, the Libyan rebel high command hopes to forge its rabble of young revolutionaries into a force which can resist and one day even defeat Col Gaddafi’s army.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8469896/Libya-Inside-Benghazis-rebel-training-camps.html

U.S. knew for years of Benghazi extremism

By Scott Cooper on December 10, 2012in Sharia Free USA
http://shariafreeusa.com/u-s-knew-for-years-of-benghazi-extremism/

“Benghazi’s Real Scandal? Uncle Sam Joined the Jihad
Written by:Diana West
Thursday, October 11, 2012
http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/2264/Benghazis-Real-Scandal-Uncle-Sam-Joined-the-Jihad.aspx

“In Libya, 11 reportedly die in cartoon protests”
Saturday, February 18, 2006
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/02/17/libya.cartoons/index.html?_s=PM:WORLD

“Benghazi 911: “see no Islam, see no jihad, see no Sharia”
Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:36
http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/05/benghazi-911-see-no-islam-see-no-jihad-see-no-sharia-2637872.html

Videos: Benghazi terror training boot camps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFRw05-KpjI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0hAdGYFTtI

My real fear here is that we were there as one of the principal conduits for Al Qaeda and ‘renewal of Islam’ Arab Spring arms trade, courtesy of George Soros, Barack Obama, and certain well-placed Administration corruptocrats.


19 posted on 05/09/2013 3:21:13 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Mr. K

Right on!


20 posted on 05/09/2013 3:22:05 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: shortstop

Coincidence?


21 posted on 05/09/2013 3:23:45 PM PDT by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: shortstop

Well-written article.


22 posted on 05/09/2013 3:30:50 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: SC_Pete
The GOP conducted a spectacle which gives our enemies greater understanding of how we gather and utilize intelligence at the highest levels of our government.

Specifically? Back that statement up.

23 posted on 05/09/2013 3:31:45 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

There is only one party in Washington: The Re-Election Party. If Schumer had a more intimate relationship with McCain and Graham, someone would have to throwof a bucket cold water on them.


24 posted on 05/09/2013 3:34:20 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

If only the sycophants on FR would see that. When we, the hardest of the right still have our own making excuses for the GOP, we can’t expect the average voter to see the light.


25 posted on 05/09/2013 3:36:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Candor7
The ROYAL question is WHY?

I have thought about this for months. Only one answer come to mind. Obama/Clinton made a political calculus....what is more potentially politically dangerous....To save the Americans, making obamas past statements that "al Quaeda is on the run" an obvious lie, or cut all 36 Americans loose to the terrorists, then have a ceremony, calling them all dedicated servants, heroic in all ways, placating their families with words, telling them lies, and then moving on.

ONLY ONE THING RINGS TRUE. OBAMA/CLINTON WANTED ALL OF THE AMERICANS TO DIE. DEAD PEOPLE DO NOT TALK. DEAD PEOPLE DO NOT BECOME WHISTLE-BLOWERS. DEAD PEOPLE CAN BE DESCRIBED ANY WAY OBAMA WANTS TO DESCRIBE THEM WITHOUT BEING CONTRADICTED.

OBAMA/CLINTON WANTED ALL OF THE AMERICANS IN BENGHAZI TO DIE. Nothing else makes sense.

26 posted on 05/09/2013 3:38:11 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: shortstop
May Obama, the Democrats and the Media all rot in he!!.

It's gotten to the point were this is the only response I have, as well.

27 posted on 05/09/2013 3:40:52 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: shortstop
Benghazi is not like Watergate.

It’s worse.

But it won’t have the same end.

Not necessarily. Keep the information flowing. No to defeatism.

28 posted on 05/09/2013 3:41:08 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: SoldierDad

SoldierDad `:” Nixon fell because Republicans of conscience refused to tolerate his immoral and illegal activity.”

True ! Nixon fell because his own party, the then Republican party refused to tolerate his immoral behavior.

SoldierDad~:”Obama will stand because Democrats have no conscience.”
No , Demorats have no sense of morality ; the agenda and partisanship superceeds righteousness.
Do you recall the three separate votes the convention had to hold about adhering to Christian principles. And even after three votes the chair had to override the floor vote.

No sense of morality:
The same executive who sent weapons to Mexico drug cartels criticizes his own country for promoting violence and weapons.
The same executive officer who spends money with wild abandon hasn’t submitted a budget in 4 years
The same executive officer who sends money to international terrorists but ignores unemployment in his own country
The same executive who calls for religious tolerance here for muslims ignores the slaughter of Christians on two continents
The same executive who swore to support the Constitution, selectively ignores enforcement of immigration law
The same executive officer who is suppose to protect religious freedom is forcing people to violate their conscience on abortion
Ad infinitum , Ad nauseam .., etc.


29 posted on 05/09/2013 3:42:39 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: shortstop
— Then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, Jan. 23, 2013:

“I wasn’t involved in the talking points process.... As I understand it, as I’ve been told, it was a typical interagency process where staff, including from the State Department, all participated, to try to come up with whatever was going to be made publicly available, and it was an intelligence product.”

“With all due respect,the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided to go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?”—Hillary Clinton


30 posted on 05/09/2013 3:48:01 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I'm afraid to go visit any American college because of all the foreign students with bombs.)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Texas Songwriter~:” OBAMA/CLINTON WANTED ALL OF THE AMERICANS IN BENGHAZI TO DIE. Nothing else makes sense.”

Or ,.. State Dept. employees taken prisoner in exchange for “the Blind Sheik”
The electorate has never abandoned the chief Executive in times of crisis.

But you are right : History is written by the survivors ,
and history rarely is written by the deceased


31 posted on 05/09/2013 3:48:32 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Norm Lenhart
Report: RNC scrapped pre-election Benghazi ad; Conservatives demand to know why

In that final debate, I kept yelling into the TV set for Romney to bring up Benghazi, but he said not a word.

32 posted on 05/09/2013 3:51:15 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: combat_boots

Ping


33 posted on 05/09/2013 3:53:14 PM PDT by locountry1dr
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To: Texas Songwriter

Another smoking gun is WHY did the FBI wait almost 8 MONTHS to issue photos of the suspects? Why the excessive delay in announcing this, other than to appease the Benghazi hearing players that they were doing everything possible to apprehend the terrorists? Were these suspects supposed to kidnap Christopher Stevens and went beyond the scope of the plan?


34 posted on 05/09/2013 3:57:12 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

If obama had ordered every asset in Europe, North Africa, the Middle East.....all of it, and they all arrived too late....Obama would have, and could have, held his head high, the American people would have stood with him and his attempt to save our countrymen....even I would not have criticied him for doing that.....but his instinct was to let them die for his personal aggrandizement...and he not doubt felt his personal advancement warranted the death of the 36 Americans who he ordered to be turned over to terrorists. After all, he is the first black President. He is beyond narcissitic. He has a God complex.


35 posted on 05/09/2013 3:58:23 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: shortstop
Very well done rant by Bob Lonsberry. I hate the title because it's a "lie", but I unfortunately get the full point of it. From the article ...

The second is that the American government willfully, repeatedly and purposely lied to the American people.

And part 2A of that is that the STATE RUN media fully aided and abetted this repeated and purposeful LIE ... all in order to manipulate the re-election of this lying fraud disgracing our WH and treating the American people (inside and outside the womb) as "expendable". He nor Hillary could care less.

"What difference does it make?" indeed. To them ... absolutely nothing.

36 posted on 05/09/2013 4:00:24 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Fiji Hill

Aside from the many obvious questions that still need to be answered, my burning question is:

How did the terrorists know the ambassador was going to be there...that night? The Syrian consulate; as I understand it, is in Tripoli....Stevens’ normal place of business.

Stevens was only there for a meeting.

I’m confused.


37 posted on 05/09/2013 4:01:30 PM PDT by Benjamin Dover (This tagline space for rent)
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To: pallis
"This is the kind of media that allowed Hitler, Stalin and Mao to rise to power."

BUMP that!

38 posted on 05/09/2013 4:02:46 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: shortstop

39 posted on 05/09/2013 4:03:53 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Texas Songwriter

If you are right, then we indeed are now living under a
genuinely fascist presidency, with the distinct possibility of being ever fascist in the future.

WE MUST reject them.

Good read:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


40 posted on 05/09/2013 4:04:10 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: shortstop

I despise democrats.


41 posted on 05/09/2013 4:05:24 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: shortstop

Bob needs to learn to develop his thoughts into paragraphs. Otherwise, to end each of his sentences with an exclamation mark, because that’s what he’s doing, shouting single disconnected thoughts. Read Elliot Abrams’ piece in this morning’s WSJ.


42 posted on 05/09/2013 4:07:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: shortstop

Let me add the RINO’s that just passed the amnesty thru the Senate to that.


43 posted on 05/09/2013 4:51:41 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Norm Lenhart

I have thought about it FRiend, and have reached the same conclusion as you.

I keep waiting for a third party, but if one does not come soon I will be filing as an independent.

I am ashamed to call myself a Republican.


44 posted on 05/09/2013 4:53:52 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: SC_Pete
boehner did demand State to hand over all of the pertinent emails today and he did state that there would be more hearings. IF boehner calls for a “Special Investigative Committee”... they get subpoena power and then it will be game on. These things have to play out... Watergate certainly did. I do not trust boehner but we have to fight these demons with the weapons that we have... regardless of how spineless they are. We must pressure the republicans to fight hard... and we must never surrender... period.

LLS

45 posted on 05/09/2013 4:57:49 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

We kept the information flowing on our fraudulent president, and his Not a Natural Born citizen. His fake Birth Certificate, his college records, do you really think anyone gives a damn?

In a month this will be as cold as Fast and Furious. As cold as Bill Clinton’s head job.


46 posted on 05/09/2013 4:59:53 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

None of us are “republicans” today... Conservatives are battling the left and the left leaning leadership of the republican party. We must replace the old guard... they are the same ones that have helped the dims screw this country up! We need more CRUZ thinking Conservatives in DC.


47 posted on 05/09/2013 5:00:46 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Thank you for being a Patriot!

LLS


48 posted on 05/09/2013 5:04:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: shortstop

IT TOOK TWO WEEKS FOR THE BRITISH NAVY TO GET TO THE FALKLANDS BUT THEY GOT THE JOB DONE... obama and clinton... they wanted these Americans dead... all of them. I pray to GOD that HE intervenes on the side of good. Only GOD can wake up America. I pray daily that HE will. Amen.

LLS


49 posted on 05/09/2013 5:09:35 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Venturer

“We kept the information flowing on our fraudulent president, and his Not a Natural Born citizen. His fake Birth Certificate, his college records, do you really think anyone gives a damn?

In a month this will be as cold as Fast and Furious. As cold as Bill Clinton’s head job.”

It doesn’t mean that we stop trying.

LLS


50 posted on 05/09/2013 5:11:54 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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