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HILLARY MISLED CONGRESS--BUT NOT UNDER OATH
http://www.breitbart.com/ ^ | may 9 2013 | by JOEL B. POLLAK

Posted on 05/09/2013 3:59:46 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

Wednesday's testimony on the Benghazi terror attacks by State Department whistleblowers before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform contradicted several statements by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in testimony before House and Senate committees in January. However, while Clinton may have misled Congress in her testimony, she likely did not commit perjury because she never actually testified under oath.

Video recordings of Clinton's Jan. 23 testimony before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee suggest that she was never sworn in.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazibenghazilies; benghazilies; hillarybenghazi; lyingtocongress; perjury; sourcetitlenoturl
Either the GOP is a useless moron rump party or are complicit in a cover-up of possible Obama/Hillary Treason gun running to terrorists in Syria via Libya.

It`s either one or both.

1 posted on 05/09/2013 3:59:46 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

I thought it was illegal to lie to Congress in any case.


2 posted on 05/09/2013 4:02:47 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

“I thought it was illegal to lie to Congress in any case.”

Unless you are or were one of them.


3 posted on 05/09/2013 4:06:41 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Article goes on to say that Dempsy and Panetta were not under oath either.

Democrats are never held to account for any wrongdoing.


4 posted on 05/09/2013 4:06:51 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

That’s because the idiots afreed to let her “testify” without swearing her in.

Statements not made under oath are NOT testimony.


5 posted on 05/09/2013 4:07:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Maybe the Republicans were afraid that Mrs. Clinton would get mad at them if they asked her testify under oath. They want to go out to dinner with her after she becomes president.


6 posted on 05/09/2013 4:07:24 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Well she was sworn in as Sec of State. What was in that?


7 posted on 05/09/2013 4:07:38 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: penelopesire

Well, this certainly explains their lackadaisical attitude towards the whole thing.

I am hurling.


8 posted on 05/09/2013 4:08:16 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Para-Ord.45

Fine. Subpoena her cankled ass, drag her back in front of the committee, and swear her in this time. If it was good enough for Ollie North....


9 posted on 05/09/2013 4:08:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The incompetency is UNBELIEVABLE.

I WAS heartened for once ..to see Issa, chafetz, Gowdy,etc.


10 posted on 05/09/2013 4:12:34 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

ROTFLOL Utter nonsense.


11 posted on 05/09/2013 4:12:35 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Para-Ord.45

It does not matter. She is guilty of abuse under the color of authority. Also, if she did willfully lead to the death of these men, then she is an accessory to murder.


12 posted on 05/09/2013 4:13:12 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Para-Ord.45

definition of “is” all over again...

Rose Law records, cattle futures, Vince Foster....

She cannot be touched.


13 posted on 05/09/2013 4:18:46 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: jospehm20
I thought it was illegal to lie to Congress in any case.

I heard Judge Napolitano say the same thing. He didn't seem to see the lack of an oath as a big deal. Levin, referrring to this article,on the other hand, seems to think it is a big deal that she wasn't given the oath. I don't have a clue.

14 posted on 05/09/2013 4:19:38 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: penelopesire
Hillary, Dempsey, and Panetta were not under oath
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Infuriating! Above the law!
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Perjury and lying to Congress are two different crimes. Perjury, defined under 18 U.S.C. § 1621, requires violation of an oath.

The crime of making a false statement to Congress, defined under 18 U.S.C. § 1001, covers lying about or concealing a "a material fact" in "any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate."

The difference is subtle but significant. A witness testifying under oath is under a greater obligation to tell the truth right down to what he or she believes it to be.

A witness merely testifying to a committee of Congress without taking an oath may not subjectively believe what he or she is saying but will probably escape punishment, so long as he or she does not "knowingly and willfully" misrepresent or cover up a material fact.

15 posted on 05/09/2013 4:19:57 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: BenLurkin

What good is testimony when it is not under oath? Please inform me.


16 posted on 05/09/2013 4:22:16 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You’re asking the wrong person.

They should all have been obliged to swear in if you ask me.

If it’s not under oath then it is NOT testimony. It’s just an unsworn statement.


17 posted on 05/09/2013 4:25:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Under Oath? Hillary took an oath, a long time ago, and it supercedes, any other possible compliance to a silly “swearing-in process.” Ask Saul Alinsky.


18 posted on 05/09/2013 4:26:29 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Para-Ord.45
Either the GOP is a useless moron rump party or are complicit in a cover-up of possible Obama/Hillary Treason gun running to terrorists in Syria via Libya.

Hillary would not testify under oath. But the did want to get her on the record.

19 posted on 05/09/2013 4:27:30 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: bigbob
definition of “is” all over again...

Rose Law records, cattle futures, Vince Foster....

She cannot be touched.

Agreed. She is virtually untouchable. Her brain is the most trained brain in the history of our country. She can be sharp as a tack, then her mind can become jello on demand(I can't recall) or quite as easily concussed, all to suit her demanding persona.

None of this, however, would be possible without political power.

The fix is in.

20 posted on 05/09/2013 4:28:18 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

If this is true it makes the GOP committee members, accessories after the fact, to a crime.


21 posted on 05/09/2013 4:29:43 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: forgotten man

After the Amnesty vote today I am convinced that there are only 4 Republicans in the Senate.

The rest are RINO’s and cowards and trash.

I hate it when I hear some Senator refer to other as the “Honorable” There is no honor in the Senate, only career thieves sucking off the Government teat.


22 posted on 05/09/2013 4:30:21 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Para-Ord.45
HILLARY MISLED CONGRESS--BUT NOT UNDER OATH

Misled, my ass. Have the guts to call a LIE a LIE. She LIED!!! She is CURRUPT. Any wonder she lost her law license? Of course not...She is a LIAR...she is CURRUPT!! Just ask Vince Foster.

23 posted on 05/09/2013 4:30:48 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Para-Ord.45

Under oath? Not under oath? What difference would it have made???

24 posted on 05/09/2013 4:31:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: BenLurkin
I do not think that they could have compelled her with a subpoena at that point. I think only a “Special Investigative Committee”... appointed by boehner... has that power. At least that is how I understood Mark Levin yesterday. They probably had to agree that none of the demons had to be put under oath. They knew that she would lie so that when they put her under oath... she will have to decide whether she will lie again or whether she will tell the truth and condemn herself with the truth. Either way... and I have no idea what will happen... but I do think that any plan that she had for another run at the presidency... is finished regardless.

LLS

25 posted on 05/09/2013 4:41:20 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: colorado tanker
"Hillary misled Congress, but not under oath"

"Under oath? Not under oath? What difference would it have made???"

Absolutely none. But when Hillary gave aid and comfort to the enemy, that's treason, whether she was under oath or not.

26 posted on 05/09/2013 4:42:28 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Para-Ord.45

She was also not under oath when she lied to the American people. It will not help her... she will face the truth of her treason... she may never feel the sting of Justice but she will never be president either.

LLS


27 posted on 05/09/2013 4:44:11 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: bigbob
definition of “is” all over again...
Rose Law records, cattle futures, Vince Foster....
She cannot be touched.

Do you ever get the feeling that the clowns in DC are all in a conspiracy together and someone is pulling the strings? Anyone else with her history would've been in Supermax long ago.

28 posted on 05/09/2013 4:44:12 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Benghazi - When you abandon four men to a terrorist mob, it is murder.)
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To: Venturer

After the Amnesty vote today I am convinced that there are only 4 Republicans in the Senate.

The rest are RINO’s and cowards and trash.

I hate it when I hear some Senator refer to other as the “Honorable” There is no honor in the Senate, only career thieves sucking off the Government teat.

If we can;t primary these RINOs out we need to demand that they switch parties and become Democraps so we can run someone against them...


29 posted on 05/09/2013 4:46:37 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Carl Vehse
Even if she had been under oath there is as much chance of her being prosecuted for perjury as her husband.

The consequences should come when and if she runs for President. Any opponent, Democrat or Republican, should ram this down her throat. Not only did she lie to the American people, she showed incredibly bad judgment in a crisis. Not qualified to be the leader of the free world.

30 posted on 05/09/2013 4:48:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Para-Ord.45

WE SHOULDN’T LET ANY CLUNTON NEAR ANY GOVERNMENT POSITION EVER AGAIN! AND F@CK CHELSEA, THAT WEBB HUBBLE LOOKING DEMON SPAWN.


31 posted on 05/09/2013 4:49:11 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: thouworm

It has been one of those days...just pure outrage after outrage after outrage.. I am just feeling beat down and hopeless now.

This country is run by criminals,fools and traitors. our media is run by corrupted statists whose only concern is for their own marxist political aims. Our citizens care more about American Idol than the future of our great country.i cannot find one single thing to be hopeful about right now.


32 posted on 05/09/2013 4:54:52 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

As far as I’m concerned every government employee should be considered as always under oath.


33 posted on 05/09/2013 4:57:54 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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34 posted on 05/09/2013 4:58:41 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

She worked for me and EVERY other taxpayer in this country. I expect my employees to tell the truth. She’s not some f**king goddess or queen who can do whatever she wants. She drinks too much and falls down. There’s a real display of greatness.


35 posted on 05/09/2013 5:02:21 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Para-Ord.45

What’s the big deal. Impel her to testify under oath to the same things she claimed when she wasn’t under oath. If she differs in her testimony, investigate it.

Our current RINO/CINO congress doesn’t have the balls to do it. She knows that. She skates.


36 posted on 05/09/2013 5:33:41 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

Bingo.

That or they KNEW of gun-running from Libya to terrorists in Syria and and condoned it.


37 posted on 05/09/2013 5:37:07 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45

Call Congress.

202-225-3121


38 posted on 05/09/2013 5:46:18 PM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: Para-Ord.45

Oath .. or not?

What difference does it make? (ducks)


39 posted on 05/09/2013 5:48:20 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Yes, and if she sbupoenaed to appear again, this time under oath, she will plead the 5th.


40 posted on 05/09/2013 5:53:00 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

She will never he held criminally. Only politically. Doesn’t matter if she was under oath.


41 posted on 05/09/2013 6:11:37 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

US Congress = Theater Of The Absurd


42 posted on 05/09/2013 6:28:44 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: Para-Ord.45

That depends on what the meaning of “is” is.


43 posted on 05/09/2013 6:32:12 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Para-Ord.45

Bring her back (subpoena) and make sure she’s under oath. Ask the same questions and more. She’ll lie — guaranteed.


44 posted on 05/09/2013 6:38:53 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: jospehm20

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Lying to congress carries the same criminal liability and the same punishment as lying under oath to congress.


45 posted on 05/09/2013 6:53:09 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Para-Ord.45

Hillary has lied all her life, it just comes naturally for her to continue, I’m sure she actually believes her lies as well.


46 posted on 05/09/2013 6:58:37 PM PDT by haircutter (,,,)
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To: haircutter

BUT ‘What difference does it make’?


47 posted on 05/09/2013 7:05:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The GOP would rather have a campaign issue, than making someone pay a price. Stupid not to put these Rats under oath. The GOP is a bunch of morons.


48 posted on 05/09/2013 7:17:34 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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