Skip to comments.California bill penalizes companies for reducing employee hours under ObamaCare
Posted on 05/09/2013 10:10:15 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
230.9. (a) It shall be unlawful for a large employer, as defined in Section 14199.1 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, to designate an employee as an independent contractor or temporary employee, reduce an employee's hours of work, or terminate an employee if the purpose of the action is to avoid the employer's obligations under Article 7 (commencing with Section 14199) of Chapter 7 of Part 3 of Division 9 of the Welfare and Institutions Code.
Just do what all the other businesses are doing... Pack it up and leave.
California’s politicians are too stupid to even deserve any economy.
Texas is about to get a whole lot busier.
This is a job-killer for sure. libs should be proud.
Low tier public servants trying to run other people’s businesses now. Not very bright. I imagine Jimmy Gomez is one of those low information/not very bright people who can’t find a REAL job.
Now employers know, they have to cut back before this IDIOTIC BILL goes into effect.
Of course California isn’t constrained by ex post facto, and will try to make the law retroactive.....
Excellent. It should be called the Zero-Employment bill.
This will enable private suits on the issue. Another gold mine for lawyers who do employment litigation. Such a shame.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see the CA legislature one day pass a bill that will not allow businesses to leave.
For the list.
Time to go Galt!
It shall be a crime to attempt to comply with the law, by taking an action that creates a legal exemption from the law.
so glad I am leaving in 19 days
It’s already being discussed in the form of a “departure tax,” last I heard. Can’t recall the source but I know I read about it somewhere.
This is an example of the political poison that’s given Californicate the highest unemployment rate (except only nevada). Plus 3 times its “share” of people on the dole. No sane business or investor puts money into Calif anymore (excepting computer programming and much of the growth in that is now overseas).
Well...who could have seen this coming. The next step is that employers will be forced to hire a certain number of workers.
I worked for a company that bought an Italian company in the 80’s. At the time (I don’t know what things are like now), the labor laws in Italy were so onerous that you essentially had to have several witness see an employee murder a co-worker in order to fire them immediately. So, this particular company had no “employees” other than the officers - everyone else worked as subcontractors as defined by their legal system! I wonder if such legal machinations are the next unintended consequences of Obamacare.
Then fire 'em because they voted for Obama ;)
They’re going to destroy that state if it’s the last thing they do.
They’re not far from it...
Unless an employer says it was Obamacare how will CA govt prove it?
Dang, Democrats really do want to implement Cloward/Pivan.
upcoming - it will be unlawful for businesses to move, or go out of business, to reduce their tax profiles or reduce their obamacare obligatios.
Ah. That explains the earthquake I just felt...
forgot, unlawful to fire employees to reduce obamacare obligations, too.
Straight out of Atlas Shrugged. Not only must you obey the insane new laws, you must also not adjust your business to minimize the impact of those laws. You MUST take the maximum damage from their screwed-up ideas and “feel-good” foolishness.
It’s not the politicians that don’t deserve any economy — it’s the people of California who elect these numbnuts.
Hey Chevron, Texas awaits you with open arms.
The democrat controlled state legislature is doing to California what Jodi Arias did to her ex-boyfriend.
This would in fact be one effect of an implementation of the infamous Directive 10-289 of “Atlas Shrugged”.
I just hope I see the day that the Welfare queens/kings get shorted by their need for ever-increasing "stuff". I relish the day they have to sit in the Emergency Rooms even longer for their baby's sniffles.
I'm now talking to Realtors in Reno, NV and parts of Arizona.
A coworker told me a friend of his in this state has 58 employees. He is forming a second business and placing 29 under eachh one.
Texas is about to get a whole lot busier.”
After trying to drive in the city traffic in Houston today at 5 p.m. I would like to say that I hope no one else moves here. Between the hours of 8 p.m. and 6 a.m. are about the only times you can get where you are going within a reasonable amount of time. It’s beyond ridiculous.
I encourage people to click through to the actual text of this legislation, and skim it, noting what a belligerent morass of intrusive regulations it proposes.
I can’t imagine what companies (let alone normal , working, traditional American families) would want to remain in California, but I’ve been flabberghasted for years that the place is still livable at all.
Who wants to be “the last white farmer in Zimbabwe”?
If not "retroactive", the socialists will put a new law in place. The communists are now in complete control of the once Golden State. Hope they will be happy with reduced business and personal revenues. I foresee riots like Greece. Mark my word.
Dang, you outta send those retards a direct message. “Hey, Chevron, look out- Texas welcomes you with open arms! 353FMG said so!” Get to it you dummies. Thank goodness, there are good men like you- pullin’ the load.
lol- Force them to buy somethign they can’t afford, then fien htem for making sound business decisions to try to save their company- Way to go-
I have a friend that worked for the national park for eleven years before they put him on permanently. Will California go after the feds?
[[If this passes, there are only three options for business, survive if they can, leave California, or go out of business.]]
There’s a 4’th option, but it’s doubtful they have the balsl to do it- ALL companies which will be forced to reduce hours shoudl band together and REFUSE to pay the fines- or better yet, all companies shoudl get together in a massive coalition and REFUSE to be bullied by thewir state by making it known they WILL NOT be treated like that-
but again- they haven’t got the nerve- so they will either go out of busienss, or severely lose money and just barely make it-
A good friend of mine in Modesto had his own business, but because of kalifornistan taxes and regs, he dissolved the company and went to work for someone else.
Businesses will merely go out of business and reorganize elsewhere in that case. Let’s see if the Land O’Fruits-&-Nuts can run everything through the state, then.
One of our circle of friends here in Hollywood (closet rightwing) moved 4 years ago to NV because one of the execs said that CA is the worst state to do business. You might not know this show on the Travel Channel but the HQ is now in Las Vegas. The show? well, to avoid the DU trolls, the host of this show is a good looking dude whose name starts with Z.
[[Texas is about to get a whole lot busier.]]
unfortunately for Texas- California ex patriots WILL turn Texas into a lvberal state just liek htey did to Colorado and other western states and towns- Texas should Ban Californians from immigrating to their state UNLESS the sign a pact statign in no uncertain terms they will NOT contest conservative ruels and regulatiosn within the state- and if they do so they will be ousted fro mthe state-
And a 5th option, the nuclear option. Vote in republicans to the state house.
Yes. I was just thinking that Texas will be blue by next election, if Ca keeps this up. It’s all over then.
“Good luck proving that. No employer would be dumb enough to admit as much.”
Juries will be allowed to infer that. And, company emails will be killers in this regard. Because companies are doing exactly that for exactly that reason, as Obama expected them to. And there will be emails in most companies discussing exactly that. The penalties are a big part of the financing of Obamacare.
Liberals are idiots, all this will do is 1) cause many small and medium businesses in CA to go out of business
and 2) The large corporations who survive will just hire less workers (or allow for attrition without replacement) thereby forcing their current workforce to shoulder more of teh work; this in turn (because human beings aren’t machines) will cause LESS production of the surviving businesses because the American worker can only do so much..
I’ll say it again Liberals are Idiots!