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Pirate Bay Takes Over Distribution of Censored 3D Printable Gun(Avast Mateys)
TorrentFreak ^ | May 10, 2013 | Ernesto

Posted on 05/10/2013 9:37:36 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot

A few days after the blueprints for the world’s first printable gun were published online, Defense Distributed has been asked by the State Department to pull them down, citing possible arms trafficking violations. The blueprints, however, are still available on The Pirate Bay and many other file-sharing sites, which adds a 3D chapter to the IP enforcement debate.The Pirate Bay says it welcomes the blueprints and has no intention of taking the files down.

Enter DEFCAD, a site dedicated to hosting designs that have been banned at Thingiverse. Namely, the entirely printable 3D gun design which clocked up more than 100,000 downloads within its first two days of release.

This did not sit well with the Department of State Office of Defense Trade Controls who kindly requested that DEFCAD remove the availability of the 3D printable gun documents, enthusiastically named “The Liberator,” citing a possible violation of International Traffic in Arms Regulations.

In the letter from the State Department, which can be read in full at Forbes, the Government explains that it wants to review whether the designs are in compliance with arms export control laws. ... While DEFCON promptly complied with the request to remove access to the design, it was shared so widely during the short window of availability that it is now virtually impossible to prevent any further distribution. Currently, there appears to be several torrents available for the design at The Pirate Bay and the site informs us that these will not be censored.

“TPB has for close to 10 years been operating without taking down one single torrent due to pressure from the outside. And it will never start doing that,” A Pirate Bay insider told TorrentFreak.

(Excerpt) Read more at torrentfreak.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; liberator; rkba; secondamendment
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FYI for anyone interested.

I’m not so sure I am being distraught over losing all in a boating accident… sigh.

1 posted on 05/10/2013 9:37:36 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot
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To: BerserkPatriot

This file is also available on bit torrent and dozens (if not hundreds by now) of mirror sites. The toothpaste is out of the tube and they are not going to get it back in.


2 posted on 05/10/2013 9:39:59 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: BerserkPatriot

It’s ok, now you can just print a new one. :)


3 posted on 05/10/2013 9:40:39 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: BerserkPatriot

can someone tell me how a print out of a gun is arms trafficking??


4 posted on 05/10/2013 9:43:48 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: BerserkPatriot

Perhaps your new plastic guns will float?


5 posted on 05/10/2013 9:45:42 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RummyChick
can someone tell me how a print out of a gun is arms trafficking??

It's trafficking when we say it's trafficking, citizen.

6 posted on 05/10/2013 9:47:16 AM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: BerserkPatriot
In the letter from the State Department, which can be read in full at Forbes, the Government explains that it wants to review whether the designs are in compliance with arms export control laws

By what authority do they "request" that a file be removed while they are deciding whether that file violates export laws? Those currently in charge of what was supposed to be a "government of the people" disgust me.

7 posted on 05/10/2013 9:48:25 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: RummyChick

Apparentlyl the gov’t is treating it as a technology transfer. And there is a law on the books that they are pointing to.


8 posted on 05/10/2013 9:48:39 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BerserkPatriot

I lost the pdf in a boating accident. Don’t ask.


9 posted on 05/10/2013 9:50:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DannyTN

but it still isnt a working gun

so if I transfer technology of a water pistol is that arms trafficking??


10 posted on 05/10/2013 9:51:06 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: BerserkPatriot

I used to have the file but I lost it in a virtual boating accident.


11 posted on 05/10/2013 9:51:13 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: BerserkPatriot

The 100K downloaded yesterday is probably closer to 100Million worldwide today solely due to the government’s attempt to censor. Just like when an authority attempts to ban a book, it becomes a best seller.

You would think they would have learned a long time ago.


12 posted on 05/10/2013 9:51:42 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: BerserkPatriot

One of these days, the government may just yet learn that you can’t control information once it’s been released into the wild. I won’t hold my breathe waiting, though.


13 posted on 05/10/2013 9:51:59 AM PDT by kevkrom (Obama: less class than Bill Clinton)
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To: null and void

can someone tell me how a print out of a gun is arms trafficking??

It’s trafficking when we say it’s trafficking, citizen.

You screwed up, it isn’t “Citizen” it is “Prisoner”...


14 posted on 05/10/2013 9:57:01 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: RummyChick
Here's a disclaimer that is used by some Defense Contractor's in regard to ITAR:

EXPORT CONTROL WARNING “This document may contain technical data that is subject to the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) controls and may not be exported or otherwise disclosed to any foreign person or firm, whether in the US or abroad, without first complying with all requirements of the ITAR, 22 CFR 120-130, including the requirement for obtaining an export license if applicable. In addition, this document may contain technology that is subject to the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) and may not be exported or otherwise disclosed to any non-U.S. person, whether in the US or abroad, without first complying with all requirements of the EAR, 15 CFR 730-774, including the requirement for obtaining an export license if applicable. Violation of these export laws is subject to severe criminal penalties.”

The law, and the attendant regulations, is so poorly written that basically anyone who pisses off the State Department can suffer a severe change in their lifestyle for alleged ITAR violations. Passing off a technical specifications document freely available via Google from anywhere in the world is enough for them to send you into Federal Court where the conviction rate is North of 95%.

15 posted on 05/10/2013 10:00:18 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Billthedrill

LMAO!


16 posted on 05/10/2013 10:00:33 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: BerserkPatriot
Pirate Bay

I wonder how long before the offer a printable ARRRRRRRR-15?

17 posted on 05/10/2013 10:02:37 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: BerserkPatriot

I was going to post a program to print out a nuclear bomb. But I need to make one final test print and my glow-in-the-dark print cartridge is low. Anyone have a spare? It’s the one in the heavy lead pouch. Maybe a U-235?


18 posted on 05/10/2013 10:03:46 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: centurion316

What ‘technology’ could they be talking about?

The irony of a regime known for it’s Guns for Gangsters program couldn’t be any thicker.

I’m not sure about them going after folks though, that would be like the IRS going after Conservative groups…. Oh wait…


19 posted on 05/10/2013 10:05:29 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: DannyTN
Apparentlyl the gov’t is treating it as a technology transfer. And there is a law on the books that they are pointing to.

It's too bad we didn't have these CrackerJack Inspector Clouseau types when Billy Jeff Buttafuco was trading Technology secrets to the Chinese for campaign cash...

20 posted on 05/10/2013 10:08:56 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: BerserkPatriot

This is like when the back door of a Brink’s truck opens up and money goes flying. Cops come on TV later that day: “We have secret video cameras and have you on tape. You better return any money you picked up, or else! Yea, you better do that, you better turn it all in!”.


21 posted on 05/10/2013 10:12:11 AM PDT by Lockbar (The guy that fires the last bullet gets to write the history books,)
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To: centurion316

Coming from State is should be “I-TARD”.


22 posted on 05/10/2013 10:12:57 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Ohhh.. that’s pretty bad…. So much so I’m going to use it.


23 posted on 05/10/2013 10:15:07 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

The lower receiver is already out there. That’s the part that is defined as the “gun.” The rest of it is attachments and peripherals.


24 posted on 05/10/2013 10:30:03 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Pirate Bay

I wonder how long before the offer a printable ARRRRRRRR-15? 

Or a Parrot rifle.


25 posted on 05/10/2013 10:34:59 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: BerserkPatriot

Here’s how things work know:

you cover up for Obama until he gets elected
you lie/ignore facts that challenge his eligibility
you have the IRS target conservative groups
you lie/cover up about Benghazi
and
you force 3D printed gun plans to be taken down.

None of which is ethical, even if borderline legal, but you do what it takes first, and only explain or “apologize” later if you get caught.


26 posted on 05/10/2013 10:35:08 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: TurboZamboni

My brother-in-law is mentally handicapped and he is a great guy. I really don’t appreciate you comparing him to the federal government.


27 posted on 05/10/2013 10:35:48 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: BerserkPatriot

To all : Do the right thing. Surrender your downloaded file. Email it to DHS so they can destroy it. (/s)


28 posted on 05/10/2013 10:38:27 AM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

I will email it in right after I make 20 copies of it.

The gubmint is composed of retards, and that is actually an insult to retarded people everywhere.


29 posted on 05/10/2013 10:43:10 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DannyTN
Meaning that you can no longer transfer a known technology from one American to another? Very strange universe we live in, apparently.

Transfer a known technology from an American acorss an international border? The same laws pertain to copies of any number of commercial software packages, which I'm sure have never been purchased over the counter at Office Depot, Radio Shack, etc. A crappy little .22, however? Call out the police! Call out the National Guard! Call out the SEALS!

30 posted on 05/10/2013 10:54:26 AM PDT by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: Pecos
Meaning that you can no longer transfer a known technology from one American to another? Very strange universe we live in, apparently. Transfer a known technology from an American acorss an international border?

I don't know. Where or how do you draw the line? This thing opens up a whole bunch of questions. What constitutes "weapon technology".


31 posted on 05/10/2013 11:03:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Pecos
Meaning that you can no longer transfer a known technology from one American to another? Very strange universe we live in, apparently. Transfer a known technology from an American acorss an international border?

I don't know. Where or how do you draw the line? This thing opens up a whole bunch of questions. What constitutes "weapon technology".


32 posted on 05/10/2013 11:03:59 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: CrazyIvan
I wonder how long before the offer a printable ARRRRRRRR-15? Or a Parrot rifle.

How about a Hoy?

http://www.americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=7882.0;wap2

33 posted on 05/10/2013 11:06:10 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Pollster1

There are actually 16 drawing files for the various parts,not just 1

There is one .zip file with them all and a few others.

The gun is now in the wind with ton of torrent seeders.


34 posted on 05/10/2013 11:14:21 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

I downloaded the sip file, so I think of it as one file, but you are correct. Thank you for the clarification.


35 posted on 05/10/2013 11:15:36 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: DannyTN

Your last sentence makes my point. IMO, the only reason the State Department is involved is because this is a favorite lefty cause.


36 posted on 05/10/2013 11:29:16 AM PDT by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: MrB
...the dog ate my pdf...

...but I hid another copy under the NYT in the parrot cage.

37 posted on 05/10/2013 11:56:57 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: RummyChick

If you chew a pop tart to look like a gun, take a picture and text it into a gun free zone you are looking at 10 to 20 years minimum. Make sense?


38 posted on 05/10/2013 12:16:24 PM PDT by willyd
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To: RummyChick

The same way the Left got it’s knickers in a twist about the “Anarchist Cookbook”, back in the late 60’s, IIRC....

crickets....

As a poster on another thread mentioned:

“We were in Des Moines last weekend at the State Historical society. They had on display a primitive cannon where the barrel is made of wood and then it was wrapped the entire length in wire to give it’s strength.”

Looks like ATF, State Dept, IRS, etc need to raid the State Historical Society in Des Moines!


39 posted on 05/10/2013 12:25:06 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: USMCPOP

“I was going to post a program to print out a nuclear bomb. But I need to make one final test print and my glow-in-the-dark print cartridge is low. Anyone have a spare? It’s the one in the heavy lead pouch. Maybe a U-235?”

I am laughing while I type and will laugh every time I think about your post! Thank you!


40 posted on 05/10/2013 12:35:13 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Billthedrill
"I used to have the file but I lost it in a virtual boating accident." And I lost my 3-D Printer in the same accident.
41 posted on 05/10/2013 12:42:24 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Pollster1

It is probably the same laws that restrict exporting missle technology and such. The law probably directly lists data files as technology that is included in the law. But the problem is not the law, it’s the misapplication of the law. It will probably go all the way to the supreme court and who know how they will rule.

In the meantime, the files will exist and will be sent around the world.


42 posted on 05/10/2013 2:02:53 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Fightin Whitey
Tesla-gun
43 posted on 05/10/2013 3:47:43 PM PDT by N-R-T (not really trying)
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To: moovova

Liberal cities will soon have ‘buy backs’ - I think I’ll print our several copies ;o)


44 posted on 05/10/2013 4:35:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Hello Kitty

             

45 posted on 05/10/2013 4:37:28 PM PDT by tomkat ( yo! > tyrannis delenda est !)
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To: maine-iac7

Now, that’s creative.


46 posted on 05/10/2013 4:43:01 PM PDT by moovova
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To: bert

We need more and better gun files. Is there one for a 9mm Sten?


47 posted on 05/11/2013 4:30:48 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I couldn’t find one


48 posted on 05/11/2013 4:39:01 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: thackney

Not with that hi-cap magazine I printed out to go with it.


49 posted on 05/11/2013 5:01:53 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Fightin Whitey

“How about a Hoy?”

Link didn’t work for me. Can you get me the info some other way?


50 posted on 05/13/2013 7:03:10 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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