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I Want My A La Carte TV
http://iowntheworld.com ^ | May 10, 2013 | IronyCurtain

Posted on 05/10/2013 10:23:58 AM PDT by BO Stinkss

John McCain, the media’s favorite “maverick” – unless he’s actively running for something – has just introduced a bill in congress called the Television Consumer Freedom Act of 2013. Normally, my iron clad rule of thumb is to take any side this guy is against but I have to admit he may have a point here. The bill would allow consumers to buy only the cable channels they want “a la carte” and not have 500 others jammed down their throats. Does anyone recall the original promise of cable TV? More than 30 years ago we asked, “why should we pay 20 dollars a month for TV when it doesn’t cost anything now?” The official answer was, “because programming will be commercial free!” Not only that, we were going to get much more than the dozen or so channels we were used to. That was then. My, how times have changed. They were certainly right about the channels. We got hundreds. And then, hundreds more. And every damn one of them has commercials up the wazoo except the classic movie channel. (Their policy is to remain commercial free but to destroy your will to live with commentary by Drew Barrymore and Cher.) The cost of cable, which is easily over 200 dollars a month, doesn’t even include any of the other movie channels which are all “extra”. Why in God’s name am I paying for hundreds of channels of programming I have absolutely no need for?

I’m not the parent of small kids anymore so I don’t need Nickelodeon or any of the kids networks.

I’m an English speaking American so I don’t want 10 Spanish language stations.

I’m not a liberal so I have no use for CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, HBO, or “Comedy” Central.

I’m not gay, (or even sure about all those letters in that LGBTQ thing), so I don’t need Bravo, Logo, or HDTV.

I have no interest in professional sports so I don’t want ESPN, or any of the other 20 sports networks.

I don’t choose my entertainment based on the color of people’s skin so I have no use for BET.

I’m old enough to remember the original Global Cooling Hoax so I don’t want the Current network.

I love my country so I don’t need Robert Redford’s channel.

I’m not an imbecile so I have no use for MTV or E!

I’m not a 10th Century Savage bent on beheading people because I just saw a woman without a dishrag on her head so I don’t want Algore-Jazeera.

In fact, ironically, more than 30 years after first getting cable I think I can now narrow my viewing preferences down to a dozen or so channels. Look, I don’t want to dictate to anyone else what they can and should be watching. If you want to start a new LGBTQ network, go right ahead. More power to ya. And if you want to choose between 20 LGBTQ networks on your cable system you have my blessing. I just don’t want to pay for it anymore.


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KEYWORDS: cable; maverick; sourcetitlenoturl; tv
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I've got so many damn channels of nothing! I've got about 8 set up in my favorites and that's pretty much all I look at.
1 posted on 05/10/2013 10:23:58 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss
I'll bet the first network that goes out of business due to low subscribers would be BET. MSLSD wouldn't be far behind...

Cable choice... Bring it on!

2 posted on 05/10/2013 10:26:13 AM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: BO Stinkss

My worry is that ala carte pricing in TV will follow the model established by airlines ($5 to use the head....).


3 posted on 05/10/2013 10:26:47 AM PDT by llevrok (2013: - Obama vs America. The new cold war)
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To: BO Stinkss
Ding! McCain maybe the wrong messenger and it may get Fubar'd in the House and Senate, but give me the Guy, Science, and Financial Channels and Beck's the Blaze and I would be really happy...

Cable right now is as the Boss would say, 57 channels and nothin's on.....

My guess is if I could buy the channels I wanted for 99 cents per channel per month, I'd have about 20 maybe 30 of them out of the 700 out their...

What does that say about Hollyweird and the Industry...

4 posted on 05/10/2013 10:29:18 AM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: BO Stinkss

I don’t watch television but I have to buy basic service if I want Internet. Nonetheless, by what Constitutional authority is McCain’s proposal authorized. My cable is regulated by the franchise agreement reached with our town officials and a county commission. As much as I like the idea, I reject the notion it is any business of the federal government.


5 posted on 05/10/2013 10:30:11 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: BO Stinkss

$200 a month. Where the hell do you live?


6 posted on 05/10/2013 10:30:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: llevrok

my worry is anything McCain touches gets worse or crashes.

we’ll probably end up with a 24/7 Megan McCain talk show.


7 posted on 05/10/2013 10:30:34 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Yes, you probably do. You must also recognize that ANY business person seeking to sell or represent its entire slate of offerings would naturally be predisposed to offer packages that includes some of his lesser subscribed paying companies? It’s business.

McCain and his crotchety assed so-called Maverick moniker needs to butt the eff out. He has no idea about capitalism - he has only experience in being a crazy a@@hole.


8 posted on 05/10/2013 10:30:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BO Stinkss

While they’re at it they can stop the monopoly too. I want to be able to choose which cable provider I want, not which one the town shoves down my throat.


9 posted on 05/10/2013 10:31:26 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: llevrok

Your cost would likely go up.


10 posted on 05/10/2013 10:31:39 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BO Stinkss

Even a clock that’s stopped is right twice a day, and with this idea it looks like McCain has taken a break from knifing conservatives in the back and mugging for the cameras long enough to propose something that would really hurt the content providers who fund and encourage the lefties.


11 posted on 05/10/2013 10:31:43 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Just one of B. Hussein Obama's "typical white people")
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To: BO Stinkss

Over half of the networks would go bankrupt if the customers were not forced to pay for their products. Imagine if you could actually choose your own programming, your cable bill would be much smaller..........


12 posted on 05/10/2013 10:32:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: BO Stinkss

It would be nice if they had a tiered setup. Basic plan, you pick ten channels. The next level pick ten more. They could still charge for the premiums.


13 posted on 05/10/2013 10:33:16 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: Gaffer

I am forced to support CNN in the basic programming and have to pay extra for FOX news. Let Mr choose not to take CNN if I don’t want it. Let them earn a living rather than sponging off everyone via the basic package.


14 posted on 05/10/2013 10:34:24 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: BO Stinkss

Same with me. I’m sick of paying for Logo, BET, Telemundo, Univision, ect ect.


15 posted on 05/10/2013 10:35:48 AM PDT by Wiggins
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s about what it would cost here in the Panhandle of Florida as well, if all the channels are included, even the premiums like HBO, CINEMAX, STARZ, THE MOVIE CHANNEL, ETC....


16 posted on 05/10/2013 10:36:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: BOBWADE

I wholeheartedly agree. I was just commenting on the inevitabilities of business. Demand drives price. The only avenue to any purveyor of electronic mish-mash where some are good, most are bad is to offer a crapload of it in the basic package to try and trick you into believing you get more for less. Business.


17 posted on 05/10/2013 10:36:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BO Stinkss

All this sounds good but it really isn’t. Here are a couple of reasons why this is all a waste of time.

1. At least with DirecTV you can set a directory that just has Fox News in it and nothing else. Add whatever you want to that. I assume but do not know that the cable companies have a similar scheme.

2. I’m pretty sure that a huge number of those channels nobody wants are paying DirecTV and the cable companies to carry their 24/7 commercial offerings. Jewelry, appliances ... Those channels subsidize the rest. Take them away and the price of the rest goes up.

3. I’m sure there’s at least one other good reason. I just can’t think of it right now.


18 posted on 05/10/2013 10:36:47 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

That works for me...


19 posted on 05/10/2013 10:37:01 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: BO Stinkss

Well Mclame’s bill will only stay alive until he gets bought off.


20 posted on 05/10/2013 10:37:06 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

That’s what we have here with Cox Cable.......


21 posted on 05/10/2013 10:39:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: BO Stinkss

FOX News
TCM
The Blaze
History
Military Channel

If I have these then I’m all set :-)

I download all else from usenet and YouTube


22 posted on 05/10/2013 10:39:16 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Would love this myself...but guarantee you if you only had 5 channels they’d figure out how to charge as much as they do now for 500 channels.


23 posted on 05/10/2013 10:40:45 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( EVERY DIME Obama Spends is given to him by the Republicans in the House.)
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To: InterceptPoint

3. It would be the end of the sports industry as we know it. Payments to ESPN and other sports-related channels are a kind of tax on cable and dish viewers for the benefit of the sports industry. That’s how those fifty-million-dollar salaries and billion-dollar broadcast deals are funded.

For that reason alone, this will not happen.


24 posted on 05/10/2013 10:44:19 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BO Stinkss

Come on now?!?! Bundled television is the socialist way. Think about it: The profitable and desirable channels / shows get to subsidize the crap that caters to niche audiences, in the interest of diversity and social justice. You’ll buy your cable package, and you’ll like it! It’s the patriotic thing to do: millions of under-served pseudo Americans rely upon it: Bravo network for gays, BET for Amish, Univision for the entire SW U.S., etc...


25 posted on 05/10/2013 10:44:28 AM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: nutmeg
I'll bet the first network that goes out of business due to low subscribers would be BET.

Exactly, and then the screams of racism will get the whole idea shot down.

26 posted on 05/10/2013 10:45:30 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: BO Stinkss
Does anyone recall the original promise of cable TV? More than 30 years ago we asked, “why should we pay 20 dollars a month for TV when it doesn’t cost anything now?” The official answer was, “because programming will be commercial free!”

No, the original promise of cable TV was that you would be able to get a good signal to all areas, without messing around with your rabbit ears or hoping the wind was blowing in the right direction.

27 posted on 05/10/2013 10:46:09 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: BO Stinkss

Ala Carteq is here. Netflix, Hulu, and Apple TV unit. Buy the programs you want, episodes or series, WAY cheaper and no ads! Never saw anything on FoxNews that I did not know about already.


28 posted on 05/10/2013 10:46:14 AM PDT by Jumpmaster (Mitt said he will put America back to work. 53% said "Screw that"!)
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To: BO Stinkss
The cost of cable, which is easily over 200 dollars a month

You're getting robbed. Turn off some extras and negotiate with the cable company.

Or, get rid of it altogether.

29 posted on 05/10/2013 10:49:42 AM PDT by wbill
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To: BO Stinkss
The issue is FCC license on the airwaves. All McCain is doing is removing it to the locals. I say let the FCC relinquish those rights to broadcast companies to locals. Customers will decide who stays and who goes. This is based on Cloud tv viewing from Aereo If CBS pulls from the airwaves then anyone should be able to broadcast in the Air on that channel. Also would not sports teams that are local be braced to make more revenue, if the FCC can not restict blackout local games. Stadium/Coliseum owners will have rights to broadcast aslo. Corrupt politician at the local level are immune at this point but States and local commissioners need more visibility.
30 posted on 05/10/2013 10:50:14 AM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: BO Stinkss
The bill would allow consumers to buy only the cable channels they want “a la carte” and not have 500 others jammed down their throats.

The price of the popular channels would go way up and then people would find another way to get the content then the government would find a way to tax/control that.

You don't have to tune in the channels you don't want.

31 posted on 05/10/2013 10:52:26 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Plan "B" is now Plan "A")
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To: InterceptPoint
Time Warner does not have programming for custom directories. Have to scroll through miles of garbage.

Dish network in SoCal did have multiple personal directory setup, and the wife had hers, I had mine. Loved it.

32 posted on 05/10/2013 10:54:12 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: taildragger
My guess is if I could buy the channels I wanted for 99 cents per channel per month, I'd have about 20 maybe 30 of them out of the 700 out their...

Add to that an increased monthly charge from the cable company and Govt. taxes.

33 posted on 05/10/2013 10:55:45 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Plan "B" is now Plan "A")
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To: jiggyboy

Ah, here we go, from 2011:

“Viacom’s Chief Executive Philippe Dauman noted that ESPN alone “is double the cost of all our networks combined.””

“Cable executives worry that these high fees [to ESPN et al] will lead to de-bundling, as younger people want cheaper à la carte packages. ESPN is the obvious target for cable execs, given it charges the highest per-household subscription fee of any cable channel.”

“SNL Kagan [an industry research firm] estimates its monthly per-subscriber fees for the flagship channel [ESPN] have risen 42% to $4.69 since 2006, compared to the average cable channel fee, which rose 24% over that same period to 26 cents a month, report Schechner and Peers.”

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2011/12/why-is-your-cable-bill-so-high/45791/

More recently (Feb 2013):

“Some consumers now see separate $2-$3 charges, specifically tied to sports, on their monthly TV bills. At least three pay-TV service providers — DirecTV, Cablevision and Verizon — have done that so far. DirecTV, the first to do so, says in a statement that its $3 monthly fee in select areas is meant to help offset the “skyrocketing costs of sports.””

“Disney’s ESPN, according to the Charlottesville, Va.-based research firm SNL Kagan, charges cable operators by far the industry’s highest fees — $5.13 per month. Virtually all other channels charge less than $1 monthly, such as CNN (57 cents) and MTV (39 cents). And ESPN insists operators carry the channel on basic cable — so they can’t recoup their costs by putting it on a pay tier.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/hiestand-biz/2013/02/28/espn-cable-tv-regional-sports-networks-verizon-fox/1947197/


34 posted on 05/10/2013 10:56:17 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BO Stinkss

Back in the day, we had the 10’ C-band dish. We had the option of bundling or a la carte. I paid like $5 for a years worth of Cartoon Network.

We only watched about 12 channels and paid $80 a year.


35 posted on 05/10/2013 11:01:01 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Mike Darancette
You don't have to tune in the channels you don't want.

Not only do I not want to tune into them(which I don't), I don't want to have to pay for them either.

36 posted on 05/10/2013 11:03:38 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Gaffer

Plus the providers are in a bind too. Companies like Viacom and turner say, “you want MTV, TBS, TNT? You gotta take this too” and buy crap like Current, ect. And when those companies raise license fees, your cable bill goes up. Shows like Game of Thrones and Walking Dead are expensive to produce. And advertising only covers so much of the cost.


37 posted on 05/10/2013 11:11:43 AM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: Jumpmaster
“Ala Carteq is here. Netflix....”

I dropped Netflix when they pulled their sponsorship from Rush. Screw ‘em.

38 posted on 05/10/2013 11:13:16 AM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: Tonytitan

Do you really believe that the cable company will charge you less each month for using their facilities if you don’t want QVC or MTV? The Company will just say all crap channels are free and you pay extra for the popular ones. Crap channels pay the cable company.


39 posted on 05/10/2013 11:15:20 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Plan "B" is now Plan "A")
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To: BO Stinkss

MY hope is that when my current contract with DirecTV expires next year, the ability to order ala carte programming off the web and use streaming or download-and-watch delivery has matured to the point where I can cut off cable/satellite altogether.

Honestly, it’s already almost to the point where I can just buy the shows I’m interested in off of iTunes or the like, and then I also own a copy of that show for good (as much as DRM-protected media allows for), not just for the single airing. If I can get live events and supplement with a regular OTA antenna, I should be just fine.


40 posted on 05/10/2013 11:17:45 AM PDT by kevkrom (Obama: less class than Bill Clinton)
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To: BO Stinkss

The corporatist lefties don’t want you to have a choice.


41 posted on 05/10/2013 11:19:12 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: BO Stinkss

There should be a charge for airtime, that’s all. It wouldn’t matter what channel you used. Just pay for the time you are watching. That way, people can channel surf all they want, and watch what catches their eye.


42 posted on 05/10/2013 11:27:25 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: christx30

Spot on info! We have a winner!

McCain knows this too, just that it sounds like he is working hard for the lowly and downtrodden.

He should just go lay in a corner someplace and growl and bark.


43 posted on 05/10/2013 11:34:12 AM PDT by fishnuts2 (Liberals are anything except liberal.)
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To: taildragger
if I could buy the channels I wanted for 99 cents per channel per month, I'd have about 20 maybe 30 of them out of the 700 out their...

As much as ala carte programming sounds good, there is a pit-fall. When the cable company see's that everyone wants a certain channel, the cost will go up accordingly. The more people want a channel, the more it will cost. Ala Carte is great for people who love the obscure channels that few people watch. Guaranteed, any savings had by ala carte programming will quickly disappear once no body buys all those channels you don't watch.

Either that, or price controls are put in place, and the government dictates how much per channel cable providers can charge; yes even more regulation than currently in place.

44 posted on 05/10/2013 11:41:46 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: fishnuts2

But unless the studios are willing to spend money on good tv, we’ll end up within thing but a bunch of (comparatively) cheaper to produce crap like Honey Boo Boo and Amish Mafia. You may want good TV, but someone has to pay for it.


45 posted on 05/10/2013 11:44:31 AM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: Bobalu

I pretty much agree with your choice except I would swap FOX News for FOX Business.


46 posted on 05/10/2013 11:46:05 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Turbo Pig

It’s funny how many FReepers think the gov’t can change the law and make things cheaper. I said it on the thread yesterday on the same subject: $10/channel or 200 for $100.

If al la carte comes, it won’t be cheap.


47 posted on 05/10/2013 11:53:10 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Grams A

Good point...just add FOX Business to my list :-)


48 posted on 05/10/2013 11:53:36 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Wiggins

“Same with me. I’m sick of paying for Logo, BET, Telemundo, Univision, ect ect.”

I would argue the opposite. Blacks and Mexicans probably watch fewer channels on average than the typical subscriber. I mean how many Spanish cable stations are out there? Just sayin


49 posted on 05/10/2013 12:05:22 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: Turbo Pig

Well, they can either offer a la carte and bundling options or they can continue down the their current path of losing viewers to the internet.

Everything is available at no cost to you somewhere on the internet.


50 posted on 05/10/2013 12:09:18 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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