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Obama declared health care law ‘is here to stay’
Associated Press ^ | May 10, 2013 3:39 PM EDT | Julie Pace and Jim Kuhnhenn

Posted on 05/10/2013 1:22:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Caught between nervous Democrats and emboldened Republicans, President Barack Obama on Friday stepped up the sales pitch on his health care overhaul as the final elements of his top domestic achievement go into effect. With his legacy and the law’s success at stake, Obama said: “The law is here to stay.”

Behind the scenes, the White House readied a campaign-style effort to get healthy young people to sign up for the insurance “exchanges” in order to keep premium costs from skyrocketing. On Capitol Hill, House Republicans are planning yet another vote to try to try to repeal the law. …

The effort comes as the public remains divided over the health care law. As a result, the White House is planning an election-like campaign to target those uninsured or individually insured young people, an effort reminiscent of the sophisticated voter outreach that helped Obama win twice win the White House. The administration has identified where many of the healthy and uninsured young live and will be working with health clinics, hospitals, churches and other groups to sign them up for the exchanges. …

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; exchanges; obama; obamacare; readthebill; repeal; zerocare

1 posted on 05/10/2013 1:22:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Too bad its not gonna be up to you, a-hole.


2 posted on 05/10/2013 1:25:34 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Olog-hai

The fact that he felt compelled to make that claim is the best news in a long time on ObamaCare. It is not here to stay, and we have a chance to kill it if we stick to our guns (figuratively!). Otherwise, our lives will be in the hands of politically motivated bureaucrats forever.


3 posted on 05/10/2013 1:26:33 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Olog-hai

"...eh we'll see"

4 posted on 05/10/2013 1:29:02 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Olog-hai
Obamacare is permanent and invariant. On the other hand the Constitution is ephemeral and easily changed, ignored or erased at any government bureaucrat's whim.
5 posted on 05/10/2013 1:31:49 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: Pollster1; Olog-hai

Obama (HIMSELF) is not here to stay....


6 posted on 05/10/2013 1:32:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Olog-hai

Like hell it is. Obama can blow it out of his treasonous communist ARSE!!


7 posted on 05/10/2013 1:34:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Wanna bet, Jugears?


8 posted on 05/10/2013 1:36:39 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Olog-hai

His lips were moving so we know he was lying.


9 posted on 05/10/2013 1:37:58 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Heil Hitler”


10 posted on 05/10/2013 1:40:27 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Olog-hai

He be bad!


11 posted on 05/10/2013 1:41:34 PM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Olog-hai

Blow it out your @$$, Odinga!!!!!


12 posted on 05/10/2013 1:42:13 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Olog-hai

These traitors are using taxpayer monies to continue trying to sell Obamacare. Can’t the House stop this waste of our money ??


13 posted on 05/10/2013 1:48:21 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: Olog-hai

We’ll see, O’ODorko.


14 posted on 05/10/2013 2:12:22 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Olog-hai; GOPJ; LucyT; 1035rep; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Yaelle; Arizona Carolyn; ...
Caught between nervous Democrats and emboldened Republicans, President Barack Obama on Friday stepped up the sales pitch on his health care overhaul as the final elements of his top domestic achievement go into effect. With his legacy and the law’s success at stake, Obama said: “The law is here to stay.”

Behind the scenes, the White House readied a campaign-style effort to get healthy young people to sign up for the insurance “exchanges” in order to keep premium costs from skyrocketing. On Capitol Hill, House Republicans are planning yet another vote to try to try to repeal the law.

If you read between the lines of this MSM piece, you detect a great deal of nervousness on the part of the left that their baby (Obamacare) might not survive.

This figures to be an excellent time for the GOP controlled House to vote to repeal it again. But the repeal should be followed up by a publicity campaign explaining to the low-info types that Obamacare might cost them their employer-sponsored health insurance and even their jobs - just for starters. The House Republicans should make it clear to the public that having passed repeal, the ball is in the court of the Senate Dems and the White House to either follow suit and get rid of Obamacare altogether, or to do nothing and let the Obamacare train wreck proceed as scheduled. Whichever way the 'Rats go, it seems like it sets up a win-win dynamic for the Pubbies in the 2014 midterm elections. (But judging from past experiences, is this too much to hope for from the House GOP?)

15 posted on 05/10/2013 2:23:21 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Jim Robinson

Please see my post # 15.


16 posted on 05/10/2013 2:24:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Olog-hai

It was declared a tax by the SC. That means it is unconsitional since all taxes must originate in the House, not the Senate.


17 posted on 05/10/2013 2:42:31 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Olog-hai

Hopefully they’ll both be gone before long.


18 posted on 05/10/2013 2:45:46 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Olog-hai

This is a typical socialist technique. First force through some program, then when the opposition tries to get rid of it, the socialists go into a defensive mode, counting on the inertia of the existing program to save it.

However, Chief Justice Roberts outsmarted them. Their ace in the hole was justice Kennedy, who they could count on to vote with the liberal side of the court on big issues, but only if he was the deciding vote. So had Roberts voted against Obamacare, Kennedy would have crossed over to give it a majority in its purest, and most evil form.

But if the Chief Justice votes with the majority, one of his unique powers is assigning who gets to write the decision, and he did so himself.

Among other things, he made it *easy* for congress to kill Obamacare, by declaring that the demands on citizens were taxes. Taxes are different, because they do not need a 2/3rds majority to be changed in congress, only a *simple* majority.

So if half + 1 of the (Republican) Senate, and half + 1 of the (Republican) House vote to kill Obamacare, either all at once or by neutering the beast, the Democrats cannot block it.

This means that thought the RINOs in congress will likely vote to keep Obamacare, as soon as the conservatives eject them, Obamacare is dead as a doornail.


19 posted on 05/10/2013 2:54:55 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Olog-hai
With his legacy and the law’s success at stake, Obama said: “The law is here to stay.”

Whenever a coward is afraid, it asserts itself like a bully. The clown is scared...and this little episode shows that fact.

20 posted on 05/10/2013 3:13:22 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Olog-hai

‘the White House readied a campaign-style effort to get healthy young people to sign up for the insurance “exchanges”

Yep. If I’m selling health insurance policies, the first demographic I’m going after is young, healthy males.

Young, robust male to obuma: I spit in your face, dumbo ears. I got a red, fast convertible to buy, I plan on dancing and drinking at the nightclub till dawn and I’ll be fine when I wake up to go to work.

How about you, slave of Wookie?


21 posted on 05/10/2013 3:21:57 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: All

Obamcare’s biggest enemy is Obamacare itself.


22 posted on 05/10/2013 3:23:01 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Olog-hai
As a result, the White House is planning an election-like campaign to target those uninsured or individually insured young people, an effort reminiscent of the sophisticated voter outreach that helped Obama win twice win the White House. The administration has identified where many of the healthy and uninsured young live and will be working with health clinics, hospitals, churches and other groups to sign them up for the exchanges

Oh yeah - the young and healthy are going to love this plan! They will be paying more than ever before in premiums plus have huge co-pays and deductibles. They will be subsidizing everyone else. Let's see if they enjoy the socialism and 'fairness' that many of them voted for once they figure out how it really works.
23 posted on 05/10/2013 3:42:03 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Among other things, he made it *easy* for congress to kill Obamacare, by declaring that the demands on citizens were taxes. Taxes are different, because they do not need a 2/3rds majority to be changed in congress, only a *simple* majority.

Do you really think Roberts did what you are outlining on purpose, just to make Obamacare easy to kill? What if Obama did not win re-election?
24 posted on 05/10/2013 3:43:51 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: justiceseeker93

Seniors are the ones who better beware of DeathCare, denial of care, and death panels. As I keep repeating, we are looking at the next Holocaust, IMO.


25 posted on 05/10/2013 4:05:22 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: yorkiemom

That was clearly his intent, because other changes to the law could be stymied because they can require 2/3rds support at some time, especially in the senate. But taxes are almost unique because they can only be voted on, one way or another, with a simple majority vote.

Great evidence for Roberts’ craftiness also came with justice Kennedy allegedly being enraged that Roberts “stole” *his* (Kennedy’s) big chance to get written in the law books as the deciding Obamacare vote.

Roberts also inserted a second poison pill into the decision that has ramifications far beyond Obamacare. He ruled that Obamacare cannot be done using the Commerce Clause. (Much of FDRs New Deal was based on expanded federal power using the Commerce Clause. All of that is now thrown into doubt as well.)

Here is a good capsule summary, that does not go into what I previously wrote about taxes but has other good points.

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/06/9398-why-chief-justice-roberts-made-the-right-long-term-decision-with-obamacare/


26 posted on 05/10/2013 4:59:25 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Olog-hai

What is Obozo going to do with a hollow LAW and NO HEATHCARE?

The law will collapse Healthcare and the Country.............


27 posted on 05/10/2013 5:07:01 PM PDT by Chief901 (Tyranny coming to an area near you soon !)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; All
Seniors are the ones who better beware of DeathCare, denial of care, and death panels. As I keep repeating, we are looking at the next Holocaust, IMO.

Seniors on Medicare are going to suffer immensely, especially if they have serious conditions and can't work around Medicare to pay out of pocket for necessary services that Medicare may not allow.

Total Medicare spending is supposedly going to be cut by this "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (a very Orewellian title), so there will be a greater emphasis by government and its contractors on disallowing payment to Medicare patients. And there will be a new program with the hospitals to reward them for cost reductions in care, which means that hospitals will have financial incentives to do less for Medicare patients.

28 posted on 05/10/2013 5:11:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: KarlInOhio; All
Obamacare is permanent and invariant. On the other hand the Constitution is ephemeral and easily changed, ignored or erased at any government bureaucrat's whim.

Yes, that's exactly what the Obamatons think. But just from the tone of this article, you can sense that they don't feel as sure about it as they may sound. This could finally be an opportunity to repeal it before the train wreck occurs.

Please see my posts #s 15 and 28.

Please see

29 posted on 05/10/2013 5:31:16 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Indeed. Thank you for sharing your insights!


30 posted on 05/10/2013 8:10:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
He ruled that the government can not force the people to purchase products or services under the commerce clause and he forced liberals to have to come clean and admit that Obama-care is funded by tax increases.

From the link - interesting. I hope those of us angry with Roberts end up being wrong after all.

Isn't the administration going ahead with forcing people to buy insurance though? Or will this come out in a court case that they can't?
31 posted on 05/11/2013 5:32:21 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

At first, yes, Obama can make people buy insurance, as a tax.

But congress can end that tax with a simple majority. And while Obama can veto that, the next Republican president, unless they are a stupendously dumb RINO, will not veto that.

What the real question will be is, because one of the few parts of Obamacare that has been effective up until now is that it *must* kill both Medicare and Medicaid, they have been so crippled that restoring them would be very unlikely.

So if the Republicans kill Obamacare, they are going to have to patch together something quickly, or there is going to be a health care disaster.


32 posted on 05/11/2013 8:42:27 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Olog-hai

So says Beelzebama the son of lies! He WILL be, dare I say it, stymied!


33 posted on 05/12/2013 1:40:47 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: justiceseeker93; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican

If we win in 2016 (Pres, Senate and House) we can repeal it for real. By then it will be extremely unpopular.

If not then John Roberts is going to the 9th circle of hell to chill out with Judas and Marshal Pétain.


34 posted on 05/13/2013 12:17:08 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy; All
If we win in 2016 (Pres, Senate and House) we can repeal it for real. By then it will be extremely unpopular.

It already is unpopular and the Administration is reeling over Benghazi and the IRS admissions. The time to strike on Obamacare is NOW, BEFORE the full disaster comes, so as to avoid a lot of pain.

35 posted on 05/13/2013 6:08:31 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Just imagine when the petty bureaucrats in the IRS are in charge of who gets what healthcare treatments.

If your spouse needs chemo you can forget it if you’re a tea party member.

Epidural during labor? Forget it if you’re a tea party member. NICU bed for that preemie baby? Forget that too.


36 posted on 05/13/2013 6:10:10 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Good points. That's pretty much how the Soviet health care system worked. Party members got the best of the limited resources, others were left to suffer and die.
37 posted on 05/13/2013 6:25:43 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Well sure we can pass repeal in the House again and hopefully make some political hay but the law isn’t actually going anywhere right now.

No matter how bad it gets democrat Senators aren’t gonna vote to repeal it anymore than they were gonna vote to remove Clinton.

Maybe we can defund it or something if we win the Senate. Full repeal obviously has to wait till Zero ain’t there to veto it.

Unfortunately the disaster is coming courtesy of Roberts’ treason and losing the election.

Maybe the first horror story lawsuit will make it back to the SC and lead that stupid bastard to reserve himself.


38 posted on 05/13/2013 9:20:53 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: justiceseeker93; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

ReVerse, I mean.


39 posted on 05/13/2013 9:22:42 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy
No matter how bad it gets democrat Senators aren’t gonna vote to repeal it anymore than they were gonna vote to remove Clinton.

Not sure about that. It took some special bribes to get some of them to vote for it in the first place, and now there's been talk of discontent with it even in 'Rat circles, like some labor unions. Now the Administration is reeling backward, even having trouble keeping the MSM in line on Benghazi and the IRS scandal (remember IRS is the chief enforcement mechanism of Obamacare), and there are some 'Rat senators facing tough re-elections next year. Could be we'll see a change of heart in some, perhaps enough to kill it there, or perhaps at lest to get some tweaks to ease the odiousness of it.

40 posted on 05/14/2013 5:37:29 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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