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Obama declared health care law ‘is here to stay’
Associated Press ^ | May 10, 2013 3:39 PM EDT | Julie Pace and Jim Kuhnhenn

Posted on 05/10/2013 1:22:40 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Caught between nervous Democrats and emboldened Republicans, President Barack Obama on Friday stepped up the sales pitch on his health care overhaul as the final elements of his top domestic achievement go into effect. With his legacy and the law’s success at stake, Obama said: “The law is here to stay.”

Behind the scenes, the White House readied a campaign-style effort to get healthy young people to sign up for the insurance “exchanges” in order to keep premium costs from skyrocketing. On Capitol Hill, House Republicans are planning yet another vote to try to try to repeal the law. …

The effort comes as the public remains divided over the health care law. As a result, the White House is planning an election-like campaign to target those uninsured or individually insured young people, an effort reminiscent of the sophisticated voter outreach that helped Obama win twice win the White House. The administration has identified where many of the healthy and uninsured young live and will be working with health clinics, hospitals, churches and other groups to sign them up for the exchanges. …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; exchanges; obama; obamacare; readthebill; repeal; zerocare
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To: Olog-hai

‘the White House readied a campaign-style effort to get healthy young people to sign up for the insurance “exchanges”

Yep. If I’m selling health insurance policies, the first demographic I’m going after is young, healthy males.

Young, robust male to obuma: I spit in your face, dumbo ears. I got a red, fast convertible to buy, I plan on dancing and drinking at the nightclub till dawn and I’ll be fine when I wake up to go to work.

How about you, slave of Wookie?


21 posted on 05/10/2013 3:21:57 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: All

Obamcare’s biggest enemy is Obamacare itself.


22 posted on 05/10/2013 3:23:01 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Olog-hai
As a result, the White House is planning an election-like campaign to target those uninsured or individually insured young people, an effort reminiscent of the sophisticated voter outreach that helped Obama win twice win the White House. The administration has identified where many of the healthy and uninsured young live and will be working with health clinics, hospitals, churches and other groups to sign them up for the exchanges

Oh yeah - the young and healthy are going to love this plan! They will be paying more than ever before in premiums plus have huge co-pays and deductibles. They will be subsidizing everyone else. Let's see if they enjoy the socialism and 'fairness' that many of them voted for once they figure out how it really works.
23 posted on 05/10/2013 3:42:03 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Among other things, he made it *easy* for congress to kill Obamacare, by declaring that the demands on citizens were taxes. Taxes are different, because they do not need a 2/3rds majority to be changed in congress, only a *simple* majority.

Do you really think Roberts did what you are outlining on purpose, just to make Obamacare easy to kill? What if Obama did not win re-election?
24 posted on 05/10/2013 3:43:51 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: justiceseeker93

Seniors are the ones who better beware of DeathCare, denial of care, and death panels. As I keep repeating, we are looking at the next Holocaust, IMO.


25 posted on 05/10/2013 4:05:22 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: yorkiemom

That was clearly his intent, because other changes to the law could be stymied because they can require 2/3rds support at some time, especially in the senate. But taxes are almost unique because they can only be voted on, one way or another, with a simple majority vote.

Great evidence for Roberts’ craftiness also came with justice Kennedy allegedly being enraged that Roberts “stole” *his* (Kennedy’s) big chance to get written in the law books as the deciding Obamacare vote.

Roberts also inserted a second poison pill into the decision that has ramifications far beyond Obamacare. He ruled that Obamacare cannot be done using the Commerce Clause. (Much of FDRs New Deal was based on expanded federal power using the Commerce Clause. All of that is now thrown into doubt as well.)

Here is a good capsule summary, that does not go into what I previously wrote about taxes but has other good points.

http://www.ijreview.com/2012/06/9398-why-chief-justice-roberts-made-the-right-long-term-decision-with-obamacare/


26 posted on 05/10/2013 4:59:25 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Olog-hai

What is Obozo going to do with a hollow LAW and NO HEATHCARE?

The law will collapse Healthcare and the Country.............


27 posted on 05/10/2013 5:07:01 PM PDT by Chief901 (Tyranny coming to an area near you soon !)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; All
Seniors are the ones who better beware of DeathCare, denial of care, and death panels. As I keep repeating, we are looking at the next Holocaust, IMO.

Seniors on Medicare are going to suffer immensely, especially if they have serious conditions and can't work around Medicare to pay out of pocket for necessary services that Medicare may not allow.

Total Medicare spending is supposedly going to be cut by this "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (a very Orewellian title), so there will be a greater emphasis by government and its contractors on disallowing payment to Medicare patients. And there will be a new program with the hospitals to reward them for cost reductions in care, which means that hospitals will have financial incentives to do less for Medicare patients.

28 posted on 05/10/2013 5:11:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: KarlInOhio; All
Obamacare is permanent and invariant. On the other hand the Constitution is ephemeral and easily changed, ignored or erased at any government bureaucrat's whim.

Yes, that's exactly what the Obamatons think. But just from the tone of this article, you can sense that they don't feel as sure about it as they may sound. This could finally be an opportunity to repeal it before the train wreck occurs.

Please see my posts #s 15 and 28.

Please see

29 posted on 05/10/2013 5:31:16 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Indeed. Thank you for sharing your insights!


30 posted on 05/10/2013 8:10:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
He ruled that the government can not force the people to purchase products or services under the commerce clause and he forced liberals to have to come clean and admit that Obama-care is funded by tax increases.

From the link - interesting. I hope those of us angry with Roberts end up being wrong after all.

Isn't the administration going ahead with forcing people to buy insurance though? Or will this come out in a court case that they can't?
31 posted on 05/11/2013 5:32:21 PM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: yorkiemom

At first, yes, Obama can make people buy insurance, as a tax.

But congress can end that tax with a simple majority. And while Obama can veto that, the next Republican president, unless they are a stupendously dumb RINO, will not veto that.

What the real question will be is, because one of the few parts of Obamacare that has been effective up until now is that it *must* kill both Medicare and Medicaid, they have been so crippled that restoring them would be very unlikely.

So if the Republicans kill Obamacare, they are going to have to patch together something quickly, or there is going to be a health care disaster.


32 posted on 05/11/2013 8:42:27 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Olog-hai

So says Beelzebama the son of lies! He WILL be, dare I say it, stymied!


33 posted on 05/12/2013 1:40:47 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: justiceseeker93; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican

If we win in 2016 (Pres, Senate and House) we can repeal it for real. By then it will be extremely unpopular.

If not then John Roberts is going to the 9th circle of hell to chill out with Judas and Marshal Pétain.


34 posted on 05/13/2013 12:17:08 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy; All
If we win in 2016 (Pres, Senate and House) we can repeal it for real. By then it will be extremely unpopular.

It already is unpopular and the Administration is reeling over Benghazi and the IRS admissions. The time to strike on Obamacare is NOW, BEFORE the full disaster comes, so as to avoid a lot of pain.

35 posted on 05/13/2013 6:08:31 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Just imagine when the petty bureaucrats in the IRS are in charge of who gets what healthcare treatments.

If your spouse needs chemo you can forget it if you’re a tea party member.

Epidural during labor? Forget it if you’re a tea party member. NICU bed for that preemie baby? Forget that too.


36 posted on 05/13/2013 6:10:10 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
Good points. That's pretty much how the Soviet health care system worked. Party members got the best of the limited resources, others were left to suffer and die.
37 posted on 05/13/2013 6:25:43 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Well sure we can pass repeal in the House again and hopefully make some political hay but the law isn’t actually going anywhere right now.

No matter how bad it gets democrat Senators aren’t gonna vote to repeal it anymore than they were gonna vote to remove Clinton.

Maybe we can defund it or something if we win the Senate. Full repeal obviously has to wait till Zero ain’t there to veto it.

Unfortunately the disaster is coming courtesy of Roberts’ treason and losing the election.

Maybe the first horror story lawsuit will make it back to the SC and lead that stupid bastard to reserve himself.


38 posted on 05/13/2013 9:20:53 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: justiceseeker93; sickoflibs; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

ReVerse, I mean.


39 posted on 05/13/2013 9:22:42 PM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Impy
No matter how bad it gets democrat Senators aren’t gonna vote to repeal it anymore than they were gonna vote to remove Clinton.

Not sure about that. It took some special bribes to get some of them to vote for it in the first place, and now there's been talk of discontent with it even in 'Rat circles, like some labor unions. Now the Administration is reeling backward, even having trouble keeping the MSM in line on Benghazi and the IRS scandal (remember IRS is the chief enforcement mechanism of Obamacare), and there are some 'Rat senators facing tough re-elections next year. Could be we'll see a change of heart in some, perhaps enough to kill it there, or perhaps at lest to get some tweaks to ease the odiousness of it.

40 posted on 05/14/2013 5:37:29 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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