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Michigan Democrats push measures to halt gun violence
The Detroit News | May 9, 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/10/2013 1:41:33 PM PDT by neverdem

Here's the link.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; michigan; secondamendment
They want a database of all new sales including long guns.
1 posted on 05/10/2013 1:41:33 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Powerless democrats trying to get attention.

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Michigan legislative action thread
2 posted on 05/10/2013 1:44:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: neverdem

And if they don’t get their way, somebody will yell “Vagina!”.


3 posted on 05/10/2013 1:45:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: neverdem

It’s people violence, not gun violence. No matter how much you prove to these fools, they still drool and lick the windows.


4 posted on 05/10/2013 1:47:36 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: cripplecreek

That was quick! Do you have it set up such that if Michigan is a “Topic,” then you automatically get pinged?


5 posted on 05/10/2013 1:49:36 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

Good luck with all that..isn’t Conyers from that area and his felonious wife?


6 posted on 05/10/2013 1:49:51 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: neverdem

I’m like an ever watchful hawk. (I have no life)


7 posted on 05/10/2013 1:51:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

It seems that certain areas of Michigan have much more gun violence than other areas despite not having greater gun ownership per capita. What do the areas of Michigan that have high gun violence have in common? Are there demographic similarities?


8 posted on 05/10/2013 1:51:45 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: wac3rd

I don’t know. I’m far away.


9 posted on 05/10/2013 1:52:21 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: cripplecreek
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10 posted on 05/10/2013 1:53:45 PM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: NCDave

LOL Democrats in Michigan are now a small minority in the state legislature so they’re reduced to publicity stunts.


11 posted on 05/10/2013 1:55:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Why don’t the Michigan Dems set up shop in Detroit, Flint or Saginaw, and start demanding a halt to gun violence from the street corners? Let’s set how far that gets them.


12 posted on 05/10/2013 1:59:03 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Considering the fact that the defensive shooting rate in Detroit is some 2200% higher than the national average, they might just become a statistic.


13 posted on 05/10/2013 2:00:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: neverdem
Just because frightened democrats are fun to laugh at.

MI:Hundreds gather for pro-gun rally at state Capitol
14 posted on 05/10/2013 2:09:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL! Thanks for the link.


15 posted on 05/10/2013 2:11:53 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

There will NEVER be an inch of common ground between the antis and those who are Pro-2A. Which is why people like Toomey and Manchin are the worst of the worst as they are the only ones who do not recognize this simple fact.


16 posted on 05/10/2013 2:14:57 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
What do the areas of Michigan that have high gun violence have in common? Are there demographic similarities?

Personally, I'm not sure. What do you think they are?

17 posted on 05/10/2013 2:54:40 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: cripplecreek

Everybody I know in Michigan’s UP is armed to the teeth. Maybe the pasties, whiskey, saunas and Finnish sisu keep them from killing each other.


18 posted on 05/10/2013 2:59:35 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: sergeantdave

Pretty much the whole state is armed to the teeth outside of Ann Arbor and K-Zoo.


19 posted on 05/10/2013 3:06:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Sure.

Here’s an article on “The 10 Most Dangerous Cities in America” with the top two spots being held by Michigan cities...

Detroit, Michigan
Population: 899,447
Violent Crime Per 1,000: 18.9
2010 Murders: 310

Flint, Michigan
Population: 109,245
Violent Crime Per 1,000: 22
2010 Murders: 53

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/05/the-10-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/239513/#slide10

Now here are the 2010 census demographics for Detroit and Flint...

As of the 2010 Census, the racial composition of the city was 82.7% Black or African American.

As of the 2010 census the racial makeup of Flint was 56.6% African American.


20 posted on 05/10/2013 3:12:30 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

South eastern Michigan is the area where there is more gun violence, hence last years big budget for the State Police to train and get more trooper on the road. Sadly, most of the troopers will be put into service in SE Michigan.

Us poor schmucks who live up north have to be content/safe with one deputy on patrol during the day, and two cars on at night. There are certain hours where my county has no deputies on the road at all! We depend on the Staties to cover for us...but since the reorganization (gutting Northern Michigan posts) that coverage is sporatic. (Sorry for the bad spelling, I spent a long day putting bad guys in jail..woo hooo, I love my job!).

According to a recent study, our county had one murder last year. True. Time from crime to ride to the prison less than a year. Our county is busy, but we get the drunks, the druggies and the occasional overdose. Oh, the murder was with a long gun.

So, yeah, the crime is downstate. I don’t have time to search and see how much gun violence is done with “off the books” guns. I bet I could drive to Flint this weekend, and in one day, buy a pistol offa some guy for under $100.00. He’ll take the money and buy drugs. In my county, it’s pretty much sex for drugs...we don’t have prostitution anymore, we just have lots of drug busts.

I won’t presume to know the demographics, but my guess is low income, state funded bad guys (”hey, got an EBT card? I’ll sell ya a gun”). I assume you are thinking about race. I also assume that much of the gun-related violence is done by races other than white, but I am basing that assumption on the racial make-up downstate. Remember, I’m just assuming. (up here, we use our guns to A. wow ourselves at the range and B. hunt animals and eat them.)


21 posted on 05/10/2013 3:14:30 PM PDT by blu
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
What do the areas of Michigan that have high gun violence have in common? Are there demographic similarities?

What do you think they are?

Sure. Here’s an article on “The 10 Most Dangerous Cities in America” with the top two spots being held by Michigan cities...

Since you obviously had the info available to you, what was the intent of your question?

22 posted on 05/10/2013 3:17:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: blu
Us poor schmucks who live up north have to be content/safe with one deputy on patrol during the day, and two cars on at night.

Having grown up in northern Michigan myself, the only problem you really have to deal with is bar fights and teenagers driving under the influence........And those are easily dealt with on the the city or county level.

I've yet to read of any escalation in gun violence.

23 posted on 05/10/2013 3:26:47 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Where I live, we only see a county cop car roll through town about twice a month.


24 posted on 05/10/2013 3:32:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

It’s called Detroit, it’s called Flint. All Democrat strong-holds, Union too....


25 posted on 05/10/2013 3:34:55 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: cripplecreek
Where I live, we only see a county cop car roll through town about twice a month.

Then he was obviously lost. Didn't he have the common sense to stop and ask for directions?

26 posted on 05/10/2013 3:35:49 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Hot Tabasco

He’s been driving around aimlessly all this time and hasn’t found his way back into Jackson.


27 posted on 05/10/2013 3:37:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Domestic Violence
Assault and Battery
Operating under the Influence of Alcohol
Operating under the Influence of Drugs
Animal Abuse
Any crime involving booze.
Resisting and Fleeing the cops
Failing to register as a sex offender
Larceny
Embezzlement
Criminal Sexual Conduct, with minors, family members and former spouses.
Child abuse

Those are some of the crimes we had this week. Oh, and the drinking and driving? Most of ours are not minors.

But no gun crimes...oh, wait, there was that felon who was busted for something else who had a gun in his car. That’s it for guns.


28 posted on 05/10/2013 3:50:54 PM PDT by blu
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To: Engedi

Sounds like Berlin in 1933. All dictators want the guns.


29 posted on 05/10/2013 4:19:55 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: blu
Those are some of the crimes we had this week

So what law enforcement agency are you affiliated with? You've successfully failed to mention that........

30 posted on 05/10/2013 4:32:21 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: blu
Those are some of the crimes we had this week.

Since you're not willing to mention which community this occured in, how about letting us know how many of those big crimes were attributed to one individual?

31 posted on 05/10/2013 5:06:43 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

“Are there demographic similarities?”

Conyer voters...


32 posted on 05/10/2013 5:21:31 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: madison10

“Why don’t the Michigan Dems set up shop in Detroit, Flint or Saginaw, and start demanding a halt to gun violence from the street corners?”

Time for Michigan Dumb’s to become neighborhood vigilantes ala George Zimmerman...and arm them to the teeth...make them put their lives where their mouths are...and what ever the outcome, the people of Michigan win.


33 posted on 05/10/2013 5:33:06 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Hot Tabasco

Who said I was LE? I never implied that. And if I told you where I worked, well, then I’d have to...uh.

What I am pointing out is that not all crimes involve guns, and yes, the majority of the gun-related crimes happen downstate.


34 posted on 05/10/2013 6:02:33 PM PDT by blu
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To: Hot Tabasco

Dude, what’s your problem? Of course I’m not going to tell you where I work or what I do! I am telling you what a typical week in our county looks like. As for the crime/criminal rate, it’s pretty much one per person. Equal opportunity, you know.


35 posted on 05/10/2013 6:07:48 PM PDT by blu
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